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Has anyone else in UT seen this new story? - - The funniest part about this is I (Mr) have first hand knowledge of many police officers being swingers themselves. I find a shit load of irony in how they raid parties when they themselves are involved in many of these activities.

Swinger Literature? - magazine articles, books, web articles... - One book that cums to mind instantly is "THE ETHICAL SLUT" And if you're lookin for fiction.. Sci Fi.. "Time Enough for Love" and another is "Stranger in A Strange Land" both by Robert A. Heinlein Not exactly about swinging but more about the lifestyle of either Polyamourous or Swingers in a fashion....The Ethical slut is kind of the grandfather of swinging handbooks and how to pull it off.. The other two are quite good about polyandrous/polygamous/polygynous relationships.. Could be fun to discuss, particularly the merrits and or negatives as it relates to the book/s and how it might relate to relationships in today's world, i.e., swinging...

please be careful - - ...interesting comment from another site.... "Older folks swinging their way to STDs ..... older "swingers," ... are at high risk for chlamydia and gonorrhea" sounds very alarming, until you read the details and consider other factors. "10.4 percent (risk) of swingers being infected ... compared with 14 percent of gay men, 10 percent in straight people who did not swing" Really? Only a 0.4% increase over straight..." That's NOT a comparatively high risk. In "... the over-45 population, they found 55 percent of the diagnoses for chlamydia and gonorrhea occurred in swingers, versus 31 percent in gay men" - This is meaningless without more data, such as the comparative size of the populations. " The study authors hypothesize ...." Yeah, a lot of hypothesis and little to back it up. The only worthwhile line in this article is "...researchers recommend swingers be tested for common infections like chlamydia and gonorrhea regularly and practice safe sex."

Why do they run? - Why do most couples run when you suggest a real full swap? - We would not go for that. And a couple with whom we play did that for awhile and it damned near wrecked their marriage. What you are talking about is very close to just plain cheating. Successful couples, swingers or vanilla, are generally inward looking, looking at one another to the exclusion of the world or back to back facing the world together. From our point of view, at least, swinging is merely an extension of sex for fun in which other people take the place of toys. We don\'t for one moment forget that they are people and not actually toys but in termns of our own relationship they are peripheral though they may also be good friends. To split as a couple so that each may go his or her own way later to regale the other with his or her exploits doesn\'t work. I don\'t want my wife to tell me about her antics with another man. I want to see her with another man.

New to this all - - Single guys donn't exactly have a easy time of it in the swinging world. It's made up mostly of couples with the occassional Unicorn (single female), and many couples have a "we're trading, but you're not providing the female part of the trade" attitude, which goes all the way back to when what is now called swinging was called wife swapping. And the vast majority of couples who are interested in inviting a single person to play with them are looking for a female, not a male. There just aren't very many people looking for a single male, and there are tons of them looking to be involved. So the numbers are against you. Besides that, it's hard for a single male to meet people. They're allowed to attend only a very, very few parties and/or events unless they have a female with them. Even the male half of a known swinging couple often isn't welcome if the female half isn't with him. He may be in a couple, but withput the woman he's just another single guy. Your best chance at someone being interested in you is online at a site like this. But, again, there are gazillions more single males than there are people looking for them, so the competition is pretty tough. To be a "winner", you usually need to be relatively young, pretty good looking, and fairly fit. So if you want to generate any interest, you have to post pics. And while nudes are a good idea if you hsave the body for it, straight dick pics are not, unless it's 10 inches long or something. And even then it might be a turn off more than a turn on for lots of people. If you don't have any pics of yourself posted, those difficult odds you face morph into impossible odds. If you do manage to attend any parties or events, chill. Don't be aggressive. Single males have a rep for assuming any woman at a swinger's function wants to jump into the sack with them. From what I've seen, most single males aren't like that, but enough are that single guys get labelled as a group, so the best way to behave is as if the woman you're talking to is someone you just met at some "normal" party. The only real difference between a swinging woman and a "normal" woman, whether she's single or in a couple, is that she doesn't think it's necessary to be in some kind of a relationship with someone in order to have sex. Female swingers are just as selective as women in general, and while her presence at a swinging party does mean she's interested in sex, she might not be interested right then, or she might not be interested in you. And a good way to turn that interest off if it's there is to act like it's a given that she wants you. The most important thing to remember is that it's always up to the woman. Whether anything happens, and if it does just what happens, is her decision. So post some pics, be just as respectful to any swinger women you might meet as you would be to any non-swinger woman and if she's part of a couple be respectful to her man, and good luck.

Rude3050 - Masturbating pics - [quote=rude3050]Is masturbating wrong ?[/quote] Not in our opinion. Utah has a long standing history with Mormonism. The Mormon church is headquartered here in Utah. Much of this websites membership live in Utah. We are a bit more vocal within the site, because it is frankly the most popular swing site in Utah. Quite a few of the swingers here come from Mormon families and even those who don't, but that have lived in Utah a long time are familiar with Mormon culture. It would be like living in Vatican City and not being a catholic. You would still be aware of and living among a lot of Catholics. The Mormon church, for a time was, and I don't know maybe still is, very anti masturbation. So the subject, once mentioned here in Utah, brings out a few inside jokes and such. Masturbation is a loaded subject. That's a play on words. Loaded, masturbating, load, loaded. Whereas you are from a different part of our great nation, all of this is probably a bit odd. We are not sure if being a single male is stigmatized more or less within the Utah swing community, than it might be in Kansas, but it is a point of aggravation for some within our community. If you were an attractive single woman asking other women to display pictures of themselves masturbating, your thread would have been received a bit differently.

new to the scene - - Can you give more clarity on the type of advice you seek? This will help those that are sincere in their responses to give honest answers. There was a post not long ago about swingers and where to start. We will try to find and let you know about it and or put it on the front here when we find it.

Where we focus our attention - Chill out Scully! The sex is out there! - You take a great point of view about swingers and their attitude towards others. Of course most swingers would not discuss politics or religion when attempting to create a sexy adventure with others. I mean why create a situation for disagreement...nothing sexy in that. Perhaps swingers are more respectful of others as they would wish to be treated that way also. We have wonderful swinger friends that we disagree with politically yet it never seems to dampen our interactions. There are circumstances where anger can add something to a sexual encounter but not often. Maybe revenge sex (very nice indeed), make up sex or break up sex can turn an angry situation into a sexy situation but not often. Its all about attitude and what you hope to accomplish, for us its fun and happy swinging adventures. No disaggreement or contention just respectful people looking for some fun.

Can bieng Mormon (LDS) and a Swinger co-exist? - - We are aware of many swingers here in Utah that still attend LDS church services regularly, including one woman that is a primary teacher. There are also many people that send their kids to church, either with neighbors or with other family members. Their attendance at church certainly doesn't inhibit their ability to be effective swingers, so we have no problem with this- we just figure that if they can reconcile it between themselves, then we're good with it.

Memorial Day Weekend - Las Vegas Anyone? - Long weekend -- Let's make the most of it! - We are planning on going to Vegas for the Memorial Day weekend. We're looking to sun, fun, water (pool or otherwise), and play! 1. Which hotel do you recommend for partying and/or meeting swingers? 2. Who else is going or interested in meeting there? 3. Or...would you recommend on making the trip to Lake Havasu? Ideas, thoughts, invitations, and fun ideas welcome! We have Fri to Mon off and want to make the most of it. (Evildoers --- we will be deeply disappointed if you don't have something amusing or funny to say....please add your 2, er, 25 cents!) :) Thank you all for your input and ideas. (So many fun and good people here!) [em]Emo_16[/em]