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Clearing up misconceptions about Herpes. - The spreading of the herpres simplex virus 1 & 2. - Do we have any microbiologist among us? Anyone actually involved in research? Any real experts want to chime in?
Reduced viral pathogenesis and increased survival are the most prevalent outcomes that have been used to measure the natural resistance to HSV-1 and HSV- 2 in mice. You can read the studies online. There are some mice and therefore most probably some swingers that have a genetic predisposition to resist both strains or to acquire and remain a-symptomatic. The question I have always pondered is how much viral shedding is possible and if so for how long in an individual that is resistant to a virus. If someone carries a viral or bacterial presence and is a-symptomatic it would seem that they would be likely to pass it along especially if their partners were genetically susceptible. But what if they acquire a virus and they are sufficiently resistant to the virus that their secondary immune system actually kills it in so much that they not only never become symptomatic and they no longer test positive for the viral presence? Is there even yet still some viral shedding possible?
I have never had a cold sore in my life. Mrs. Delicious is not sure if she did in her childhood. I know, for a fact that we both have been around people, as in family members and friends that get them. We have both been tested for both HSV-! And HSV-2 and our test results come back as negative suggesting we do not have any viral presence for either strain. We both have a few years under our belts and we have both been around the intimacy block a few times. We were both the kind of kids that were social in out childhood sharing bottles and cups with friends and wrestling around and such and some of friends go cold sores. I sincerely doubt we have never been exposed to HSV-1. Did we at some point ever acquire the virus and clear it?
Same sort of thing seems to go for bacterial and yeast presence and maintaining a proper bacterial and yeast balance for optimal health. Some people just seem to self balance and some get out of balance through improper diet and get digestive issues which fucks up how they store fat, the acidity in their gut etc., etc. There millions on antacids and prescription medications due to these sorts of imbalances. The bacterial balance or imbalance in your body manifest in your skin and else where and can be passed along. Mrs. Delicious and I work pretty hard at balance, so as to not need any prescriptions and we have done a lot of research and we now understand why it is that Mrs. Delicious seems to get a yeast infection after playing with some people and with some she can play frequently and never have a worry about those sorts of things. Everything you do in life affects your body to some degree and the things you do on a regular basis have a big impact and in more ways than viral what you are can be passed along during intimate contact. Fuck a junk food junkie, the type that bombards their bacterial allies that are supposed to maintain human health and balance with foods that excrete compounds that can lead to imbalances that are associate with obesity and ulcers and cancer and you will, at least for a time take on their bacterial imbalance at some level. The more intimate the forms of human contact are always somewhat invasive. You have to decide when and with who it worth the risk.
New Forum Rules - No Censorship, No Moderation, Just a Few Rules -
Very good move. Most popular public forums on the web have moderators that keep it above the belt. I am a "levels of force" kinda person. I usually keep it in the "smack talk" region until someone pulls out the big guns and says something that totally insults me, my service to the country, my way of life etc. Then I think it's fair to defend myself. I was never one to tolerate bullies
Forum moderation is a good think as long as you are not dinged on everything you say. If done in moderation itself, I think it's key in a happy community. After all, not all of us will agree all of the time. Any good community has a police system in place.
Some of us do not hold themselves to a moral believe system (dogma). What it "proper etiquette" to some, may not be to others. We are a culturally & sexually diverse, multi-faceted, large gamut of unique individuals. Each of us even differ from our spouses/significant others (if that applies). Can you you say you never argue with your spouse? Can you say you have never said anything brash to anyone? Were you apologetic to those you did not like? I think most reasonable individuals would say yes to most of those and no to the last one. What is more likely, is that they chose to avoid contact with that person.
Everyone here has a choice to involve themselves in the conversations that happen here. For instance, if you were to post in a "GAY MARRIAGE" thread and post your opinion as to why an adult of clear mind and total consent, should not be allowed to enter into legal marriage with another adult of any sex, they so chose because of your own personal moral system. You are then adamant about holding to you view no matter how many time you are told that there is a seperation of church and state and that the "sanctity of marriage, between a man and a woman" is that of religious code and does not apply to the legal system, as it is unconstitutional. Yet you still wish to force your law on the rest of society because your upbringing told you that homosexuality is wrong and that marriage is not meant for gays. If this applies to you, then you are not reasonable and the only way I wish to deal with unreasonable people is to tell them to fuck off. I am saying you don't have the right to avoid homosexual marriage for youself? NO! I am saying you don't have the right to choose for others.
I guess what I am saying is that many of you don't want to hear anyone say anything that differs from your own little world, yet you are swingers. Many of you think one -way and don't want to hear something that turns your belief system on it's head. If you can not respect or tolerate diversity I have no respect for you. I will not respect your beliefs, rights or opinions if you will not afford everyone else the same. YOU REAP WHAT YOU SEW.
I vow, from hence forth, to do my best to be civil to everyone here. I expect the same from all of you. I can play nice with you, if you play nice with me. Remember, if you disrespect me, I will definetly return the courtesy :-) Thanks Rob. Thank you for proving that forum moderation can be a good thing.
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"Ich habe einen kleinen Vogel in meinem Kopf."
FB group? - FB group - [quote=NASTY4U2]I'm sure there are more. I know of one as I am the creator of it. But It's for Utah swingers only. Someone you know may have created one. Ask, or make one yourself. [/quote]
Would love an invite :)
West/Midwest vs. South Swinger population - - So we have noticed that Utah has a majority of the swing-ulation (swing population) on the site and we're thinking it's because here in Ut. We are denied such liberties such as good beer, gay marriage, being able to buy booze in the grocery store, legalized pot, a corner or city block that dosen't have a Mormon church on it, or a town without a Temple being planned or built!
So we figure Utah swingers are mostly either church defectors or people who are just plain fed up with our Mormon dictated state so what we do we do to rebel?? We hump each other alot lmao Utah is here by tagged as the Swinger Capitol of the Great United States of America!! So God bless Utah and this guys wife blowing me lol
Swinging/Polyamory - I just wanted to hear other people thoughs on this....... - Much of what has been said I agree with, but I do know poly couples in the lifestyle. Their swinging is a bit more complicated as far as the decision process because I would imagine that such a decision would need to be agreed upon by all partners involved.
The biggest difference I think between regular swingers and those who are involved in poly relationships is while most people who swing would shun the development of emotional ties to other swingers thinking it would be the doom of their spousal (primary) relationship, those who are also involved in or those who are open to the possibility of poly relationships would welcome the development of additional relationships for what they are knowing there is neither a need to replace their spouse or run off with the person they have formed this new relationship with. It does add further complication to their life, but it can also enrich it tremendously.
My .02 from an observers standpoint.
At what point do you out yourselves to family and friends?? - - I really don't think it makes that big a difference. What ever you are comfortable with is what you should do. Me personally, I let the people I work with that we are swingers, after they had guessed. Didn't see any reason to lie to them. Hell I was hoping to get in the pants of a couple of them. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer.
Swingers clubs are the new singles hangout? - - Actually I am referring to clubs like Ranch4Play in Eustis and the Playground in Samsula. I have also heard that the ponderosa has seen a small increase in the numbers of single men and women who are not necessarily interested in the lifestyle but are looking for that special someone to share their life with.
Restaurants - Restaurants for meeting - do i have to ride a vintage scooter to fuck the swingers there?
Neighbors with benefits already cancled - - I guess I was just theorizing that the same people who got A&E to reinstate Phil Robertson after his hateful comparison of homosexuality and bestiality (let alone atheism, rape and murder) maybe didn't take too kindly to A&E also having a show about swingers. But I could be wrong. If nothing else it should maybe be a wake up call to any swingers who mistakenly think all or most vanillas are only a Long Island Iced Tea away becoming full on swingers. [em]Emo_84[/em]
Fantasy Fest 2009 in Key West - Looking for others planning to go - we can post other thread later like where will you be at FF and when. The Garden of eden above the bull and whistle is clothing optional bar day & night. It is another good meet up spot for swingers.