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tips on playing alone ? - - If the co-worker isn't aware up front that you and your wife are swingers, then her playing with him is NOT Lifestyle related.
If the shoe were on the other foot, wouldn't YOU want to know that YOU were part of an experiment?
If - and I repeat [b]IF [/b]- I were sleazy enough to fuck a married co worker, and then later be invited to play with her and the hubby, I'd tell them BOTH to fuck off.
For crying out loud, people - isn't there still some degree of integrity involved in being in the Lifestyle?
Whtas up - Please tell me? - [quote=TATERTOT1982]..........OK so pretty much no one has contacted me in Vegas. I couldn't find enough time in Utah but here, for some reason seems to be so difficult to even find anyone worth seeing. I am not s picture whore, just has to be something , anything there. ......Please, I am so bored and hoping someone can find the time to help a girl out.....I', starting to get a complex, unless i travel 6 hrs. and now they are saying single girls aren't swingers lol............Oh Lord..Help me out. Someone who isn't; gonna hit it and quit it.............PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ[/quote]
I would be happy to come meet you in Vegas. I end up there for conferences fairly often.
Peta....are you a fan? - Their "State of the Union" message. - "If you do not wish to read or write in topics outside of the realm of swinging, then you shouldn't adventure in those areas. Just my two cents."
Could not agree more, you will never see me writing in one of the "poke your fellow swinger's in the eye posts"
And just for the record "Mr. TR" I've read some of your "rants" and probably agree 97.2 of everything you say "Politically".
But my thinking is there's about 16 million places to "Get Political" on the Web..... Why choose a group which accounts for about 2-5 percent of the U.S. population (including YOU) to pick a fight?
Why post in a "little pond" of a bunch of swingers?..
A question for singles..... - and please be honest. - After reading some of the comments... It begs the question aren't the singles on here advertising the fact that they are or want to be swingers? Looking for partners to explore the swinging experience? Or are they just people who are looking to get free sex? I'm not saying that any of it is wrong but singles used to date then have sex and then get involved with others. I'm not sure when the swinger sites became dating sites for sex starved singles. Not saying it's bad or good just asking.
Polyamory/ Polyandry - Info - [quote=PLEASE27][quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]I think I came off too negative. Finding the right person or persons in the case of polyamory has a lot to do with becoming the right person and that is within most peoples power. So why the hell not? [/quote] Personally I think it is opening yourself to the universe and accepting/ giving love. I have found that so many, including myself, fight againist natural feelings because it is "frowned" upon in society.... Case in point, 1/2 the swingers I know didn't just "jump in" with both feet but once they "let it be and flow" they are much happier. I know I have held back my nature because it might be "scary" or "to intense" for men which has had me go the complete opposite way in which I deny all feelings. And I completely agree, if you fall in love you fall in love, you cannot make someone love you. But your love for another person should not be conditional on them loving you back. [/quote]
We agree. To love is a reward all it's own. In the end true lovers always end up loving themselves more and understanding themselves more too because of all the insights they gain through their deep considerations and appreciations of those they love.
Where do you go have Adult only sexual fun in Vegas... - Sexual fun - [quote=IHORUS69]Jen and I have been to "on-premises" swingers clubs all over the country. Number one hands down is New Horizons in Seattle. (No single men) . Second place is Freedom Acres, San Bernardino (No single men) and close third is Collette's in New Orleans (No single men). Don't waste your time on the East Coast or Chicago. Sad. In Vegas, each club has negatives, but the best in Vegas BY FAR is the Green Door hands down. We have been to all three on-premises clubs (not counting power exchange) and we will not ever go back to neither the rooster nor Oasis. The Green Door is big. VERY big compared to the other two. Its up-to date, and clean. Clean is very important when it comes to potentially how funky sex can deteriorate to--especially as funky as most of the people are at the Rooster. Now, that doesn't mean we haven't met other HOT couples who lost their way and went to the rooster, but I think we just got lucky. There are some scary effen and out-of-shape folks there. We even saw one loser getting tazed there. The Deco of the place is 70's at best and the high-light of the evening is some guy who croons Neil Diamond songs. Good god. up stairs play room is very small and inadequate. Oasis, bring your own date if you want to play. Very cliquey, very much like Chicago. Now the rooster and the Door both have single guys. But the Single guys at the rooster walk around with dick-in-hand and swarm like sharks. At the door there are a lot more areas where they cannot go but can watch from a distance, and they seem a LOT less tacky. Hope that helps. We love SLC swingers. Its a shame there is no on-premises club there yet.[/quote]
As an out of towner as well, agree with you about most. Been to the rooster once, never again, repulsive, rooting from the cleanliness of the entire place. Been to the Green Door, the cleanliness you would expect. Common area and viewing area littered with single men, seems to be promoting their store. Not traveled like you, but have Trapeze in Miami area to compare these with, also in Atlanta which I find much more desirable than vegas clubs. The Artisan is a fun place and most times you can get something started if that is what you are looking for. Also find the VIP parties at Paris a great place to find like minded people, while not designated as a swinger club, easy to spot the couples looking for a lost night in vegas if that is what you are looking for.
courtesy - dates and communication - When we started swinging there was no internet....not like today where it takes a few seconds to find someone you want to fuck and shoot off an email or a friend request. We had to find a magazine with ads for swingers (at an adult book store), write a letter, probably include a Polaroid pic with the letter and mail it and wait for a reply...which didn't always come. So I guess we kind of were conditioned to not really worry about it too much especially once internet swinging happened and it didn't take so much work to reach out. Now it takes so little effort to contact potential playmates that many people often spam out large numbers of emails in a shotgun approach or do the same with friend requests. We've, sadly, gotten to the point in our swinging career where we DON'T respond to blind friend requests or emails that are obviously sent to multiple people (no mention specifically of us or our profile). We used to respond but found that at least half the time we then got no response in return so we assumed the senders got a BBD (bigger, better deal) and were no longer interested. We really don't get our panties in a wad over it. I kind of look at it like an unsolicited spam email from someone wanting to clean my carpets. I really don't feel a great need to respond even though it would be the POLITE thing to do. Although I am seriously considering writing back to that Nigerian prince who wants to give me a million bucks. [em]Emo_67[/em]
That said, blowing someone off after making plans to meet is a douchecopter move and (barring a REALLY good excuse proffered in a timely manner) will quckly get someone on our permanent no fly list. Yup, we're assholes that way. [em]Emo_84[/em]
Is HABITS still the place to go? - - [quote=SEXYHOTFUN]there will be a hot first time couple at habits on friday..if u see us please come up and say hi! we just joined and we cant send emails!? do u have to pay to send emails! any advice would be great.[/quote] If you havent yet and your spouse and yourself are interested in the lifestyle I know admin had their lifetime membership deal going again. I would recommend buying it. As far as any other advice I would say read the swingers wiki to get yourself familiar with some of the do's and dont's. But above all have fun and dont do anything that you two arent comfortable with.
Curiosity - What pitfalls should I watch out for? O.o - The biggest pitfall is being a single guy itself. Just leave, get a girl and come back as a couple. It's just simple logic, allow me to explain:
Why would a couple get with a single guy when there is an abundance of hot couples which include a guy and a girl? Unless the other dude is bi, then you are on your own.
If you are over 30, male and single there must be something seriously wrong with you, no excuses. People break up all the time. So take a break, set a goal and come back to the real fun with a girl. Without a girl you'd just see how the fun goes in front of your eyes. Is like arriving a the track without a thoroughbred and then you'd want to ride everybody's mare. Guess what? No one would give a shit about what happened to you. And your X will be banging some douchebag while all this happens.
On the other hand, this is a great time to be single. Younger men are flat broke and hot younger girls are going for older guys. Go get yourself into a serious relationship with an early 20's college chick. If you have 1/2 an ounce of game, are not a douche and a little something to show for (car, apt) you should have no problem. I've seen the dorkiest, dumbest white college guy, skinny and with facial hair with some hot yet shy asian girl at a damn classy swingers ball near JAX FL. Shit if I become single I would not last a week in the market with so much college pussy out there annd I'm 43.
Also, it is also easier to turn younger chicks, especially nowadays, into swinging I turned my loving wife when she was 22 and she's been at it since then.
Yes, I am a douche, but I have a hot wife, we get along well with other couples, love to flirt and party and we play with hot couples often, more frequently that we'd like to admit lol. Your X may be fucking some douchebag but she's gonna get upgraded. This is it. Go get em' big guy.
announcing a new group - for all single ladies ~ UNICORNS - It's not going to work. Single women on here, or unicorns, get the whole stigma of being the most wanted of the swingers. But when it comes down to it, we get the shafted usually. All the couples want in so they can see what is said or see who the players are.