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Swinging and Singles - A Question of Sexual Equality in the 21st Century - As more and more people join and participate in the lifestyle more and more clubs are opening up, more dating sites for swingers are being created at a rate that would make the proliferation of nuclear weapons seem to pale in comparison. What seems to be an issue to me with these places of business (and lets be real here if your asked for a donation its a business just look at places like but not limited to the Playround, the Ponderosa, Trapeeze or Tastebuds in florida) is that the seem to either penalize singles (men mainly but in some cases women -for women it can be much worse actually) by making the donation almost monitarily prohibitive or worse yet excluding them completely.
Now I have no problem with couples that want to only be with other couples or couples that only want to be with single women (after all how many men if given the choice would rather have a single woman join them than have couple which would mean that they would be obliged to share their wives with another man in order to get with the woman). What I think is a problem is when groups of individuals who make their living having these parties purposely go out of their way to discriminate against a group of people based soley on their "couple" status and then cloak themselves in the shield of well we aren't a business we're a private club therefore we can chose who we let in.
There's a couple of faults with that claim. Primarily from multiple legal rulings regarding private organizations with regards as to membership (and no the boy scout rulings are not applicable). The secondary problem is a matter of public policy. Just as it would be intollerable for a highschool to deny a girl a chance to play football with the boys because of her gender, so too would the argument that singles cannot participate because of their status.
Another argument is that most couples dont want to have to deal with singles. My response to that would be that while yes there have been some instances of annoyance caused by singles those incidents are statistically few and far between. A more apt response is that as a couple you inherantly would have an easier time finding another couple just from using a site like this one and that in fact by supporting clubs that discriminate against singles you will in the long run be hurting yourselves.
What are your thoughts?
Wow why are single women so rude? - I have always tried to be as respectful and honest as possible - [quote=UT_4REAL_INSLC]Im like you in that I try to be polite, express interest and then back off if a couple or single female is not interested. I also try to keep in mind that guys like us are probably in the minority. I think after getting hit on by a couple hundred guys whose best attempt at being suave and debonair is "Hey nice tits, wanna fuck?" that women are entitled to get a little cranky. Dont let it get you down, continue to be polite and realize as a single male you have to work twice as hard to make up for the damage other single males have done before you. Maybe if enough of us behave this way the tide will turn. [/quote]
ut_4real_inslc although I admire you defending the rude women I personally disagree. When we post our "nice tits" on here we are asking for people to look. In my 9 to 5 job I try not to put that side of me out there, however in our personal life as swingers we are saying hey we wanna fuck or be fucked. Granted you might not be the right person that we want to be with but how are you going to know if you don't ask?
Another perplexing experience - - In reply to wetfem there is nothing wrong with you as a cpl. We have had simular situations everything from "oh no your a yankee" to "your too old" of course they never said this to our face we just could tell from the way those nights went the bottom line is ,you cannot possibly be compatible with everyone you meet and chatting, talking on phone, and e-mails/messages gives you just a slight insight into who you are planning on meeting thats why for us for the most part at least folks local to us we do not spend alot of time chatting etc...
we setup a face to face meeting very quickly and see where it leads most 1st meetings are strictly social and then we tell whomever we are meeting with lets make it" more private "next time that normally will lead to a positive response or a polite "we don't feel we are compatible".
We have learned to laugh about the ones who choose not to bring it to a sexual level and consider it thier loss not ours . Being in the mid aged range we know that we are more uncompatible with the majority of the swingers who frequent sights like this my wife no where looks 47 People continue to guessed her age in her mid 20's (she drives those fair ages guessers crazy she has won every time lol) and when cpls/singles meet us face to face and we tell them our kids are 28 and 26 you can see the look on thier faces that is very obvious "They did not read our profile very well".
With all that said, we approach all face to face meetings with no "sexpectations" if it happens great if it doesn't we say nice to meet you and then say "NEXT"
March Madness at Hedo III March 16-23 - March Madness with SunCoast Swingers - Sun, March 16
Pimp and Ho night ... Guys Just pimp it up ... Ladies where your most Ho outfit the more ho!!! the better
Mon, March 17
Pirate night !!!! Arrrrrrrr mates, get yer sexiest pirate gear, Arrrr winches, make them rummies, desperate to show there daggers ... arrrr shiver me timbers
Tue, March 18
Lingerie and Pajama night ... Your sexiest and daring !!!!! and if you sleep nude ... thats OK at disco ... but the lingerie and PJ's are good for dinner
Wed, March 19
Fetish !!!!! OK bring out the leather, whips and cuffs ... What ever your favorite fetish wear is !!!!!!!
Thur, March 20
TOGA !!!! TOGA!!! TOGA!!! Bring your favorite toga ... or make one there !!!! Hedo supplies the sheets and some instruction !!! Remember the rule!!! No underwear under your toga ... there is the panty police !!!
Fri, March 21
Jamaica night ... Black, Yellow and Green. Black for the people, Yellow for the sun and Green for the vegitation ... find some sexy colors and show the love for Jamaica
Sat, March 22
Wet and Wild ...mmmm but its Glitter, metallic, sequin and shimmer night... guys ... this is pretty much the ladies night to show there sexy stuff ...but if you have it wear it ...
Some of the games we have planned for example is NAKED TWISTER, FIND YOUR MATE and NAUGHTY DICE. Remember to bring a wrapped erotic gift for our chinese auction limit $20. This will be held at the Piano Bar(date and time to be announced)
Please bring school supplies and or simple meds we take for granted ...eg: cold meds, asprin, Tylenol, iboprofin even cough drops !!!!! Anything to help our friends in Jamaica
First time hall pass - - mrs here. this is an issue that we didnt know was around either until i told hubby that i wanted him to go out and play solo too (he had given me permission about 8 months before) basically couples are too hard to find, women in the lifestyle only play with their husbands and they are looking for other women, and single women are looking for someone for a relationship not casual fun. he did meet a few and most were more crazy than the proverbial shit house rat, leading to some pretty bad experiences. i guess he finally had enough and told me he was out and would not play anymore. at first he was ok with taking me to the club if i wanted to go but after our last trip he said no more of that either. i thought he might get over it and give it another try but its been over six months now and he still says hes done. he even refers to our being swingers in the past tense lol.
The lifestyle: A single mans perspective - - Well said, brother...This lifestyle is what you make of it, and some make more than others.
While we are all grownups on this site (obviously, you have to be 18 or over to sign on), you'd think there would be less of a high-school mentatlity than in, say....high school? yet, we get some of the DORKIEST , misspelled emails I've ever seen.
Couple that with the responses we've gotten to some posts (like the one critisizing us for getting our vip status), and we wonder how some have remembered to breathe long enough to pass high school.
So, here are some very basic tips on enjoying this lifestyle:
(not that I'm an expert, but obviously some need etiquette lessons)
1) The first email / chat with someone, DON"T ask idiotic questions. And don't get TOO personal. Remember, this is like dating. If a woman at a bar showed some interest, would the next thing out of your mouth be 'What size is your bra?', or 'Do you like it in the ass?'. it's no wonder some of you are in this lifestyle, you'd never get laid otherwise.
2) Keep SOCIAL meetings SOCIAL. No one cares how long you've been a proctologist, or how much money your kids have stole from you. That's YOUR business. Polite conversation is one thing, but there's nothing worse than hearing a 3 hour lecture on YOUR life experiences, followed by 'So, would you guys like to play with us?'
Yeah, as if
3) There ARE other things besides sex to chat about. In person or on the computer. That's right, SWINGERS HAVE BRAINS. and we're very able to carry on converstaion (well, some of us anyway) We were at a party once, and my other half said 'I've heard sex mentioned until I'm not turned on at the thought anymore' ...it happens, just a tip
4) Unless you're planning a very long trip, or own your own private jet, don't add someone to your friend's list here OR on yahoo that lives 3,000 miles away. Let's face it, we'll never meet. Hell, we'll probably never even talk. so what's the point? Air sex? gimme a break.
5) And probably the most important. From the first meeting, to every visit you have (if someone's lucky enough to invite you back, RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE!. Just because we have a wild orgy at the pool of a local motel with wild monkeys and lots of cool whip, it DOES NOT MEAN TO GROPE US EVERYTIME YOU SEE US. We're in couples for a reason, to be in a couple. And just because we're turned on by you, or have sex, doesn't mean you own our bodies afterward. That's what your spouse/gf/bf is for. And most of us aren't here for love. NEWSFLASH...WE'RE HERE FOR SEX!
These are just off the top of my head, after recieving some horrible emails, and experiencing some terrible meetings.
Oh, yeah, and in response to the post, most single guys DO get a hard time in the lifestyle. But good, they should. This is about the couples, single guys are VERY easy to come by.
And those who have treated us with RESPECT have been treated EXCEPTIONALLY WELL. Bravo on a great post, and good luck to you sir!
p.s. anything I missed? list it below!
SM's and Bootycall Postings.. - Really guys.. get a clue. - This is Lia...specifically.
Single males?...hmm..I've had plenty of single males over the past 5 years who make their pointless attempts at hooking up with me and or my husband in a three way scenario. Granted, I am about as adventurous as you can get. I have no specific problem with the single guy hitting on me, but the drama that tends to wrap itself around me after is just something I don't need or want. I was very into a single guy a couple of years back and he did actually become one of my best friends to this day and is now married, but that, in itself, was riddled in drama created by nosy, big mouthed people who always want to start shit instead of minding their own business. If you decide you like someone for a while and are seen with them more than not, people say you are "exclusive" and try to put false damage on your marital status. Get a life, assholes.
So...single males?...Enjoy yourselves...be respectful...and don't get too excited thinking you're every married couples answer to their failed marriage..swingers, when they are stable, are out there for fun. We may want the occasional single, we may not. It's about choice. My choice, at this time, is to refrain from said single guy, lol...but kudos to those of you "gettin some"...it's all in fun. Or at least it's supposed to be.
FSP "Meet and Greet Dance Party" - Meet and Greet - Florida Swing Party!!!!!!!!
San Carlos Lounge
February 20th, 2009
The Friendly Members Club
A no pressure evening of fun!
Come to 18911 S. Tamiami Trail, Fort Myers (41), San Carlos Lounge from
9:00 p.m. till 1:30 a.m.
This is a straight bar and It's Ok To Be Sexy! Sexy is fine in public, nude is not:)
This is not like many other Meet and Greets you may go to. When you get there, come up to the DJ and tell him you are here for the party. Kimi will introduce you to the other swingers in the room so you won't have to sit there and try to guess who else may be in the LifeStyle :)
Warning: They like their music loud at San Carlos, and smoking is allowed.
We hope you will all sit at a large table to get to know each other! We'll be playing all genres of music and requests are welcomed as always!
Drinks are very reasonable, and no cover charge, but please don't drink and drive. Come out to party and dance with us!
puberty.... - for all you swingers with kids.... - LMAF...that is a good one and way funny
they fix mobile and killed photo albums - - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]It is just part of the new mobile rollout. You can only see each individual profile picture at a specific GPS coordinate. The idea is that swingers will bump into each other while they are all out looking for the locations that let them catch each others naked profile pictures. [/quote]
Might not be naked. Might just be suffering from mange. [em]Emo_8[/em]