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IVegas 18 & 19 anyone been to HUSH? - - We are thinking about checking out HUSH Swingers Club on mon. 18th or/& tues. 19th.
Anyone been there that can offer any advise?
Boise - - There are several bars in the downtown area. China Blue, Dirty Little Rodies, Humpin Hannahs "one of our favorites", and The Balcony. The balcony is a alternative lifestyle bar, you will see almost everything there from openly gay couples, crossdressers and swingers. Its by far our favorite bar to go to...we highly recommend the Balcony. Enjoy your stay and hope you have fun in our great city.
Speaking of beds... - A question for our friends - The wife and I have a question to post - wherein we ask this: What bed is the best possible match for a pair of swingers that love to play?
This question comes about due to the recent demise of our bed. It appears that 2 years of AMAZING sex WILL destroy a low-quality mattress.
The most frustrating part of the low-end mattress is the fact that even when it's just the Mrs. and I, there is entirely too much noise from the box spring set and mattress together to enjoy a hard ride without fear of the kids hearing and being mortified.
Recommendations for soft, silent, and amazingly comfortable mattress sets will be greatly appreciated.
-Scotch (& Kitten)
Deceptive Couple - - [quote=GOLDENSPIDER]my sex life does not exist
i forgot how to have it
Try the European swingers, they might prefer the bikini look. 😊
Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - Personally I think you might be a little too eager (can't blame you, we all were when we started) and pushing just a little too hard to make her fantasy a reality. Rather than trying to find a way to get around the "Catch 22" of her fantasy maybe just explore it more verbally and see if it evolves into some kind of scenario that she is comfortable with that more easily can happen in the real world.
The most successful swingers we know, ourselves included, arrived at where they are by being open and supportive of each other's fantasies and desires without forcing them in any way. In other words, be patient, explore your fantasies verbally and maybe role play, a LOT, with each other before you jump into anything that either of you isn't quite ready for.
You might be surprised as you fantasize openly and honestly how your fantasies might evolve and become something that you eventually can and will make a reality. You know your wife better than anyone and maybe she does need a little nudge but most of the swingers we've known over the years who've crashed and burned did so because one partner pushed the limits too fast and didn't wait for the more hesitant partner to catch up. In our case we were quite surprised and what our fantasies morphed into when we really dug deep and talked about the truly deviant (by local standards anyway-lol) aspects of our fantasies.
Sorry, I know that's probably not the kind of advice you were hoping for but it's been our observation over a rather lengthy swinging career. Another thought, if you're bound and determined to make your first swinging experience a MFM, is to find a guy who is okay with just watching you two play or maybe getting involved in some soft swinging...i.e. back rubs and or touching but no intercourse. We were soft swap for the first year or two of our swinging life and it was great fun and took the pressure off until we were ready to take the next step. Best of luck!
edit- Sorry about what now seems like a long rambling response. In my defense it was pre-coffee. [em]Emo_79[/em]
Anyone going to Habits tonight - First time for us... Habits in SLC, it sounds fun.. is anyone going - Habits has been great for couples and other swingers.
They have put a lot of effort and money into their club and they deserve our support and patronage.
Escorts - - That is how we actually got started in the lifestyle and unlike some of the people who have replied here that have probably never hired someone, we know a little about it. It just depends on what you are looking for. As an older couple, we like threesomes with young 20 somethings. That is not easy to find. When you do find someone, you have to worry about them developing a dependence on you, feelings for one or the other or both of you, etc. Charlie Sheen said it best when David Letterman asked why he would pay for sex, he told Charlie basically the same thing RANDMR told you, your good looking, in shape, in his case rich, etc. Charlie's response was "Dave, I don't pay women to have sex with me, I pay them to go away afterward's" That's why we use escorts, WAY LESS DRAMA! That being said, unless you go where it is legal, you have to be very careful. In Florida a solicitation bust puts you on the Sex Offender registry for the rest of your life. There are ways to protect yourself. First and foremost if you do nothting else we recommend, DO NOT GO TO BACKPAGE!!!!! Sorry Marisol, but that is LEO's favorite place to set up stings. Especially now that Backpage does not allow nude photos anymore. Used to be, stick with girls with nude photos, not LEO (entrapment issue if they use nudes, even fake nudes). Now, none of them have nudes.
If you do it right and not be cheap you can be safe and not get busted either. There are several reputable Verification Websites that you can join. In most cases, membership won't cost you much more than this site does. The providers are reviewed by other clients so you know what services they provide, if they are any good, what there attitude is like, etc. You also know that they aren't LEO. On the sites we use, the Provider can give you with a verification or Okay once they have seen you. We have several Provider Okays on our profile so when we contact a new girl about seeing us, she knows right away that we are legit too. We can email you details off the public forum.
Oh and BLUEIDKAT doesn't have a clue. First off, We are in no way immature nor are we stupid. We have been with providers that, had they been at the Swinger's Club the night before, they would have had there pick of people in the room. Most of the provider's on the sites we use do not Escort for a living, they have regular jobs. They escort for the extra money and for the fun of it. If they do it right, they can have as much fun as you do. We have NEVER used a girl that worked for a service. We took one girl with us to the Bahamas for a weekend, it was probably the best vacation we have ever had except for our Honeymoon and both of us agree, it was real close to eclipsing that. If the escort works through a verification site, they don't need and most of them don't work for a service. We have been with girls that when they leave, you would swear you were just with the love of your life. You just have to look around, just like on here.
As for STD's; We have seen a whole lot more skanky couples and single guys in the Swingers Clubs. You have no guarantees anywhere that the people you are about to fuck are clean. You have to take them for there word. At least if you use one of the sites, if a provider has reviews from several months or even years back in many cases, had they given someone an STD, it would be reflected in their reviews.
As for Bareback, We have NEVER had one offer to go bareback if we paid more. However, EVERY Single Male we have hooked up with from here or other Swinger sites and even one of the couples we were with on a Couples Cruise tried to stick there cock in uncovered! We ALWAYS have to stop them and have them cover up. The escorts bring them with and most of them put them out on the nightstand when you get started making it very clear what the rules are. In fact, every girl we have used a toy on insists that the toy be covered too, Clarification, not other swinger women, just the escorts!!!!
All of the girls we have seen have been very clean. Many insits on showering, all 3 of us, before and they shower right away after. We have had some that will only use certain brands of lube. One who would not take a bath with any bubble bath, etc. to keep from getting any kind of allergic reaction. You need to ignore the comments from the ignorant. They know not what they speak of.
It's like everything else, if it's something you want to try, and you are comfortable with the morality of it, get the facts and give it a shot. Send us a message if you want us to tell you the sites we use. We would be happy to share more of our experience with you.
Honesty? Really? - Posers/Liars - Oh my...SUCH paranoia!
Does not everyone wish to advertise themselves in the best and most attractive way possible (at least MOST)?
Is it truly THAT hard to give the benefit of the doubt?
Personally, my experience has been that NOT everyone is out to lie, or even malicisouly mislead others who may peruse their profiles.
Seriously people, it's not some grand conspiracy against those who may consider themselves "above par" from the common swinger-folk.
Even those that might come across as being the most critical of others, and who consider themselves the "creme de la creme" of the Swinging community, are not immune to even the smallest of imperfections.
It is unfortunate that many that are the quickest to point out "flaws" in others...would seemingly have plenty of "flaws" themselves, in the eyes of onlookers of course (beauty/non-beauty will always remain in the eye of the beholder).
NOBODY is without these so-called "flaws".
Here are just a few examples of what I have personally witnessed being balked at AND often possessed by those that balk, during the course of my journey in swinging....
-Stretchmarks (gained perhaps through puberty, pregnancy, breast-feeding, working out, weight gain, etc.)
-Asymmetrical bodies (so-called perfect symmetry does NOT occur naturally, not even surgically is it possible)
-Errant hairs growing unknown on unseen parts of the body
-Premature aging of the hands and neck areas
-Unsightly cuticles and/or nailbeds
-Man-hands (on women)
-Feminine hands (on men)
-Unattractive gums (gingivitis)
-Unsightly gaps in the teeth
-Dimples (yes...in perhaps all four cheeks)
-Cottage cheese (yes...virtually everyone manifests this when sitting, squatting etc. to some extent, perhaps unknown the them. Sorry, it's just the nature of fat; even the leanest of people have a thin layer of fat that can pucker in the right position)
-Breasts that have lost the battle with gravity
-Poor breast augmentation
-Funky body chemistry manifesting as an unpleasant odor
-Too many bony prominences
Ok...I think that's fairly comprehensive and you get my point.
Obviously, Swingular is not going to put a categorized "yes/no" checklist as comprehensive as this...even though the most discriminate of Swingers may expect it.
There are many different ways to be unique AND "attractive" (and of course "unattractive" as well).
Basic Psychology might suggest that the way that we view others, whether we find beauty or ugliness, is simply a reflection of how we feel and what we view ourselves to be, and of course, speaks clearly to our relationship with ourselves.
Honesty is a completely subjective phenomenon, and those that share honestly about themselves may be viewed as being dishonest by those who are expecting or fearing to be mislead.
Please don't think for a moment that I am pointing out what I either like or dislike; many of these I actually adore and find quite charming.
Personally, I think it's the uniqueness of everyone's body and body habituses that add to the overall attraction and uniqueness of every individual.
Finally, please don't consider this a personal attack on the originators of this thread, or any of those who have shared their personal tastes in partners thus far. All are entitled to their opinions.
Administrator doesn't Verify Single Males - Is that fair? - [quote=ILLUSTRATOR]Anyone who sees the "Real" symbol as an endorsement isn't thinking straight. My sense all along has been that the Real symbol means that you are who you say you are, not a 17 yo with their own debit card and a strong libido. I use the Real symbol to know if the profile is the person in the pictures and that they aren't someone who just started an account for some other purpose than it is meant for.
When I started with Swingular, I had someone contact me with some off-the-wall comments. When I shot them down, they started another account and tried with a different tactic. Couples, Single males, will do the same. Not all, but some.
Those single males who are who they say they are, should be allowed that verification. This dis-verification of single males punishes those who are playing by the rules. Now, those couples who would only meet up with a Verified single male will be more hesitant. "Will he be that one who keeps stalking my profile? Will he be the one that was violent when we saw him last?" We don't know because NO single males will be verified.
In my opinion, the verification process should be that the person is who they say they are, not some person who buys new profiles every time they're denied by the object of their obsession. I, for one, will be less inclined to accept a friend request from a single male, now. [/quote]
Good points, but in reality a married posing as single guy or gal for what it's worth can manage to show up to a meet and greet and say they are single. Maybe endorsement is not the right word. Certify is too strong. Verify, that someone is what they purport to be is still difficult. At what point can you say that you "verified" someone as "Real"? If two people, saying they are a couple, swinging together, meet us at a swingers event, or for coffee, or dinner or whatever, we are frankly, more likely to believe them at face value. Yes collusion is still possible. Yes they could both be married and cheating together. Yes one of them might be a married scoundrel and the other a prostitute. Yes they might be a couple of news anchors, with a hidden camera hidden behind a mirror. Never-the-less, when we meet with a couple, we tend to believe they sort of "verify" one another. Comments say more than being verified as "Real".
Please Share ;) How did you come up with your handle? - - Our profile name was thought up very carefully. We put a lot of creativity and time into our profile name. After many agonizing days of trying to get our damn name right we thought this had to be THE ONE!............
HA HA HA HA! We actually typed in things like "utcple" and "funcple" and so on and so forth but everything was taken. SO we live in UT and we wanted everyone to remember us........and it is a swingers site......and my husband is a man-whore.... so what other name would we chose?... SLUT!!!!!! Too bad we don't live up to the name........LOL!
Sorry, not too creative here!