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Why do they run? - Why do most couples run when you suggest a real full swap? - I am certain that insecurity has no bearing on the decisions that we make in regard to the lifestyle. What you are suggesting simply isnt for us. We take so much from being in close proximity to each other during our encounters that it would render the experience...perhaps ackward or fruitless, for lack of a better term.
There is a reason that so many couples run from the possibility of what you call \"full swap\". Many years ago when we were first introduced to the lifestyle, \"full swap\" entailed having sexual intercourse with another couple. \"Soft swap\" meant oral play or touching only, no intercourse. Perhaps the deffinition has changed over the years...
I am certain that what you are describing is closer to what traditional polyamory is all about. In fact, there is a reason why the couples that you approach about this subject \"run like the wind\" as you call it. More times than not, it has proven to be destructive to the relationships in question. Best intentions or not, we are all human. Shit happens. Most seasoned swingers know this, and avoid this situation at all costs.
Most of the relationships that we have seen over the years that were as you describe ended in ruin. Most of the people that we have known to consider this method were (coincidentally) new swingers, who had not yet developed a sense of direction or an identity in the lifestyle. There are some mistakes that you can make in the lifestlye without jeopadizing your standing with your mate. There are some that you simply can not. What you are suggesting to other couples, while it may seem like something that would be fun and cool, has proven to be atleast problematic to many other people.
Just our .02 cents.
Best of luck to you both.
Luvbugs! (mR.)
:D
Now that you're one of them there fancy swingers... - - Has swinging become too popular and become passe?
So now that I most recently have had several vials of blood drawn, urinated in a cup, been swabbed, poked examined and filled out pages of questionnaires as have several special friends and intended special friends and we are in a quarantine period to assure we are all still kissing fresh will we re-discover the joys of monogamy and just say to hell with it once we are all fair game? Will monogamy become retro cool and avant-garde as the unwashed masses turn to swinging along the Wasatch Front? Will we follow the trend? Nah probably not, I never got gauges in my ears or started riding a fix geared bike.
Oh, and fuck Crispy Cremes.....Banbury Cross all the way Evil.
Any swingers advise for Spain? - Swing clubs in Madrid - Well not too sure about swinger clubs, but we were there last year and the hotel we stayed in had one of the top rated rooftop bars in all of Europe, and the hotel itself was amazing, if you like trendy hotels, the name of the hotel was "ME" Madrid, it is probably in one of the best locations.
Vanilla "life" just doesn't taste as good! - What else doesn't "taste" as good? - The dirty little secret of the lifestyle (Okay, there are a LOT of dirty little secrets! LOL) is that it's VERY hard to go back to Vanillalandia and not become bored to death. We've known SO many swingers who "quit" the lifestyle and no longer want to have recreational sex with others but nonetheless still try to hang out with swingers and go to swing parties and such. *shrug*
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trip - - is there any swingers on or near smith mountain lake interested in possible meet?
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - Wow...very cool replies!! BTW that minivan sounds awesome...lol!! Thx for posting all the cool pics!
Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - he is aries and she is virgo :)
seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? - SIN,
Telling someone that they are too old to participate, using derogatory desciptions and hurtful language, isn't funny. If you find humor in belittling others regarding things they can not control, then you've crossed the line.
You can control or change your political views, religion and stances on many things... You can't readily change how you look, how old you are, and sometime how heavy you are... Attacks against an individual's being should be avoided. We are who we are. We all deserve the same freedom and liberty.
I respect you choice not to involve yourself with the elderly, just as most of them should. However, you have no right to tell them that they should give up their pursuit of happiness. To do so, then call it a joke, just makes you look like and even bigger prick. That is just my opinion.
-Don-
5 Guys - Who knew?.? - Lol why are all the sexy swingers in Utah? Teehee
Moving to Utah - - [quote=PEGBUNDY]wow! such mis-information - look at the stats of property evals and such - for the love of Buddha... one can make an intelligent assessment based on fact.[/quote]
She is pretty close to correct. I have lived elsewhere but I like Utah. It does have its quirks but so does everywhere else. Life is what you make of it. There are areas with problems, mostly socio-economic in nature. Poor areas have more crime as a rule. Thus many of the older areas have higher rates of crime and problems in school but not all.
55 to 60 percent of the people in Salt Lake and Davis counties are non-LDS. However since the LDS are evangelistic in nature they have a tendency to want you to come to church. Most have gotten past the idea that letting their children play with non member children is a problem. Once they know you are not interested in joining they tend to leave you alone if you wish. But there are lots of good LDS and Non LDS neighbors.
Work with a realtor and find an area in your price range where there are other children close to yours in age. On the north of SLC, Bountiful through Layton will be more rural as will Harriman and daybreak areas to the South West. There are a lot of nice new homes in the south west corner of Salt Lake County. The east bench tends to be more money but not always. In Utah property taxes pay for schools.
The Provo/Orem area does have more LDS folks by percentage but not necessarily fewer swingers.
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