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asking your swinger friend if you can join them. - - [quote=USSIR]Well, I have a co-worker that I have been friends with for a while and recently found they are a swingers, it wasn't shocking to me or anything just thought it was interesting. So some time has passed and I thought I wonder if I could join them sexually. To me it would just be awkward to as him that. Obviously I'm not going to ask him "hey can I bang your wife?" I don't care if it was both of them or just her, I've always thought she was hot and I consider my co-worker a good friend. So, how do I ask that and/or is it a bad idea? Thanks [/quote] As a single male also in this lifestyle who has faced a similar situation my advice would be to just openly talk about the lifestyle, involve both him and his wife in the convo casually over drinks one night when your just hanging out. Basically plant a seed and see if it grows, realistically if they are into the lifestyle and are open to the idea they will invite you, but its best to let them think its their idea to include you. For some couples it just might be out of bounds to include friends into their sexploits.

Do you long for your "vanilla" friends? - Have you been with any? - [quote=theseduction747]Being new to Utah I can not imagine how you deal with friends here with all the LDS people here. But it appears there are more LDS that have a secret side than people realize. Now how to find that out may be the trick. I always cut up and joke so they would be able to get the hint so they could decide on making the move or not. If you comment in a fun way in a joking environment eventually information will start being revealed. If not they are probably not into it and you can always excuse it as joking or cutting up. lol I have found out more than I wanted to know from some friends of ours over the years. Even some we had no interest in. It is just my nature to cut up a make funny comments. So they get comfortable talking back. That can backfire too lol. [/quote] The feeling we've gotten from chatting privately with people here is that a good percentage of swingers in Utah are indeed LDS, whether active or inactive. Appears too a good number are former LDS members cutting loose. With no judgement or disrespect to the LDS reading this, I find it fascinating. At any rate, thanks for the post and good idea with joking around.

Cuming out of the Swinger closet - - Maybe we're approaching this from the wrong angle. Why exactly do you think you want to tell people you're swingers? Are you friends constantly asking you why you dress like cheap hookers whenever you are "just going out for a drink"? Do they wonder why you drag yourselves home at 5am looking like you lost a fight with a family of rabid raccoons? Do they think it's a little odd that when they walk up to you that SLAM your new laptop shut so hard the screen shatters or fling your new iPhone over the hedge in your yard? Are you tired of making up elaborate excuses to people that would make Jules Verne or Quentin Tarantino blush and say, "WTF?"? Or are you just major horn dogs who think that fucking other people is so fun that you might as well just fuck ALL you friends (and maybe even a few not TOO close relatives) while you're at it? I think answering WHY might give you some insight as to the real reason you think it's anyone's (other than your own) fucking business who you fuck or why you fuck them. [em]Emo_67[/em]

what the f#%@ was he thinking? - swingers still deserve respect - Sorry, some people are just ill-mannered. The good news is there's a possibility that he's just new to it and hasn't learned how to act properly yet. I've seen the behavior before lol we all know how all you men have to be trained <<<<ducking>>>>

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - The bar is called unspoken, but I can't find ANYTHING on it.

Polyamory - polyanorous couples. - [quote=SUGARSANDSPICE][b]By general definition all swingers are polyamorous.[/b] Polyamory (from Greek ???? [poly, meaning many or several] and Latin amor [love]) is the practice, desire, or acceptance of having more than one intimate relationship at a time with the knowledge and consent of everyone involved. Polyamory is a less specific term than polygamy, the practice or condition of having more than one spouse. The majority of polygamous cultures are traditionally polygynous, where one husband has multiple wives. Polyandrous societies, in which one wife has multiple husbands, are less common but do exist. Marriage is not a requirement in polyamorous relationships. [/quote] That is the wikipedia definition and is not correct.

Black Rings - Do Swingers really? - Has anyone ever been approached because they had the black rings on?

Finding a balance - Swinging and Religion - - This has always been a tough controversy. Religion, swinging. I am agnostic and my GF was LDS. Her family is hardcore LDS still and pushed the faith on their daughter (my GF) and her kids even. They preach that they want their whole family in the religion cuz they need to know "right from wrong". I asked the kids (8 & 6 yrs old) what they learn in church.. seems to me all they learn about is how great their "savior" is, how he loves us, and we can look to him, and family is a "unit".. they dont seem to learn anythign about right and wrong. Yet.. her parents try to preach to me that their religion teaches them right from wrong and that their "right & wrong" is the correct one. They are also very controlling, judgemental, pushy, 2-faced, and negative in every aspect... OMG! is this what u learn in church and how family is supposed to be?? They found out we swing, and told me its adultry and we're cheating and its immoral.. OK, umm.. we;re not married and what we do is 100% consentual... funny, but seems like the more LDS we meet, the more seem to be JACK mormons. so why are LDS swinging or why are swingers in religions that condem it? is it just for the prestige and status of being in the church and to shut the family up?? Ok, #1, I hate ppl who follow a faith and feel theirs is the correct one so much that they push it on everyone and judge other beliefs as the wrong ones rather then understanding tolerance and the fact that there is no such thing as right or wrong... only opinion and difference... what works for you may not work for me. #2, I hate hypocrates. ppl who preach about how much they follow their religion, go to church and lie in front of everyone there about how much they follow the rules and how the church has saved them.. Then, behind closed doors, they go against everything they believe in. Then they preach about how much they follow their churches rules and its "right & wrong" is the ultimate. Those ppl are called liars and 2-facers.. #3, Kids should be taught "Right & Wrong" from their parents, not a group of ppl that i described in examples #1 & #2. WTF do they know?? Kids should also be introduced to church by their own choice and when they are old enuf to understand it. [b]In my opinion, If you wanna swing, then it doesnt seem like u really believe in ur church's beliefs... why are u in it? If u believe ur church's teachings above all.. then why are you swinging?[/b] [b]I have nuthing against either, but I think its best to pick a side. Thats why I dont follow any religion.. I dont believe in any of them... too many hypocrates, liars, 2-facers, judgemental, stuck-ups... people who are willing to bend and cheat their own rules, morals and beliefs behind closed doors and especially when its to their benefit...[/b]

Best Swingers club in Cincinnati area? - Swingers clubs - Hi everyone,, want to thank you for the kind words about SinDay, we do try hard to make your night out a great experience, full of fun, and excitement. if I may chime in about Princeton, and 440 also 101. All of you have many choices here in Ohio, there are many clubs to choose from, also in KY and INDY. Sure we at Club SinDay would love for you to always come to our club, but lets be real, no one wants to go to the same place over and over. and its nice to just get away for a change. So we encourage our members to go try other clubs, both for a change, but also, maybe you will come back and tell us what you like about another club, as to help us, improve on our own club. Those of you who have gone to Princeton know its a very big club, and a very nice club. When we designed SinDay we were trying hard to compete with them on the bar area and the dance area, there was no way we could compete with them on size. There is a reason Princeton is number one in Ohio, it is its size. and it is a nice club. I not afraid to say this, they worked hard to be a nice club, as we are working hard to become just as nice. As for 440 and 101, I havent been to either club in years, but have heard they have made a few changes, so you may want to go check them out also. All of the clubs have something different to offer, one may have a house party feel, another may feel more open like a banquet hall, and others may feel like a dance club. it really depends on what you the members are looking for. And the only way you will find out what you like best is by going to these clubs. Please dont let other convince you that one club is better then another, their idea of a club may be way different then what you think a club should be. And you will have some people that are so into a club, that they will down other clubs they have never been to, just to help their home club. so please judge for yourselves, go out, enjoy all the clubs you can, and remember that the number one thing you want from a club, is your own opinion of a club. Ok, ill stop rambling now, thank you for your time, and I hope to see you all soon at SinDay, please come up and say hi. Dane (one of the club owners)

whatkind of pron is most people interested in? - Speak your mind... - His preference, amatuer/group you know swingers lol. Hers Girl/Girl and lots of toys.