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hall passes - who all does it - Thanks Eros, as you agreed with me, our game has to improve. But just because we think we're enlightened and progressive because we're swingers, some of societies stereotypes still apply. Men are still men, and women are still women. In other words, pursuit is usually up to the male. Chauvinist as that may sound, it probably is more about genetics then anything else. How many species in the animal kingdom do you see, where the female aggressively looks for a male. It's almost always the reverse.
So men, work your ass off in the gym, pay the 30 bucks for that that PDF manual on how to improve your game. (kidding of course about the last suggestion). What you may find is that it improves your own relationship with the wife or girlfriend.
One thing I noticed, when I improve myself, it only enhances my own marriage and my other relationship. That's always a plus plus in my book!!!
Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Perfect! Thanks
LDS Swingers Survey - Will any former/active LDS swingers take my survey? - Yeah, you might also want to ask if you have rules about who you play with. And maybe another section: Are you LDS and using this to cheat on your spouse?
Are we really as judgmental as vanilla people? - - It strikes me that, [i][b]in general[/b][/i], people fall into one of two groups:
A. Those interested in the total social experience the lifestyle offers (multi-faceted).
B. Those interested primarily in sex (very goal-specific).
The number of people in group B is considerable. 'B' folks are much more likely to hold appearance and physical desirability as the only criteria for evaluating playmates. 'A' folks are more interested in the total package.
I don't think it's necessarily right to fault those in group B for their limited interest in people beyond their sexual skills and desirability. How they conduct themselves is another story, however.
Immaturity has been mentioned. Selfishness and poor social skills also surely come into play. Society in general continues to become more and more hooked on instant gratification, leaving little room for concern for others.
This issue is reflective of society in general. Those in the lifestyle are, in fact, just a microcosm of the bigger picture, as previously pointed out. Does anyone really think swingers are any different? If anything, they are a subgroup [i][b]even more[/b][/i] into instant gratification and seeking only specifically what they want.
The Fun of the Chase - - I wouldn't even call it "the fun of the chase" as much as just liking to get to know people a little bit before jumping into the sack. I know there are plenty of swingers who really prefer no prelims of any kind and just getting down to the sex but that's not usually us.
For us there has to be an attraction on at least another level beyond simply physical attraction. Personality and being able to carry on a conversation are very important to both Ms. Evil and I. We much prefer to talk, at least a little bit, and get to know people a bit better and maybe flirt and tease and kid around a little bit. We find that it makes the sex a LOT hotter if we like you at least a little bit first. :-D
Las Vegas - Swingers clubs ect. - [quote=Utahldscouple][quote=WOWMAMA69]If you're adventurous there's always The Green Door or the Red Rooster.[/quote]If you mean by adventurous you’ll have PTSD trying to get the images out of your head 😂, then yes by all means go! If you like to watch extremely sexy couples and women have sex and potentially participate, go to flirtslv or playhouselv. [/quote]
What happens at those places? Never been
KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - [quote=ILLUSTRATOR][quote=SHENANIGANIZER]Her marriage was doomed from the start. Her husband already had a swingular account set up without telling her...swinging just put the nail in the coffin.
On a side note...who swings with kids in the house??????[/quote]
A lot of people have kids at home and go out swinging. Look how many young couples are on here... Do you think they are all childless? That would be rather naive to believe. But I do agree, the woman had troubles before she agreed to the lifestyle. She tried to save a fragile vase that was already falling to pieces with a sledge hammer. What did she expect?[/quote]
I said IN the house while swinging...no, I really thought only childless couples swing. Smh
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - We would be interested as well. This is what we are looking for. We want to meet more people without the pressure of playing right off the start. It would be nice to meet like minded people and see where it goes from there.
Advice - Advice for a new couple venturing out - You might consider starting here....
Say Yes To Swinging - this is the book you want the read if you think Swinging might be something you would like to try. Includes information about how to discuss the topic with your partner.
Let's Go Swinging - this is the book you want to read once you decide to become swingers.
Both books are available on Amazon for $6 in Kindle format.
Black Rings - Do Swingers really? - I have pineapple stickers on the motorhome just in case
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