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Vegas Recommendations? - Where do you recommend we go in Vegas - Swing club wise that is. - We have attended, and can recommend, the weekly Purrfect LV parties. They take place in a club in the Mandalay Bay. There is a private bar but you are free to mingle in the main part of the club where you can identify other swingers by their wristbands (necessary to enter the private space). There is also an after-party for the adventurous. The events are extremely well organized and attract a mix of locals and out-of-towners.

LDS Survey Results - - Believe what you want to believe, but how can you judge anyone else for their actions or beliefs? So what? you don't agree... no need to get nasty or judgemental of others who believe differently than you do. I venture that since you were once a practicing Mormon, you feel the need to be as judgemental as you deem others in the religion are. Quite sad that you must have had some bad experience with someone who was active LDS which put a bad taste in your mouth. People aren't perfect. Nobody is. One must strive for their best and make their own decisions as to how to live their life. If that means I go to church and serve in callings, I'm not being two faced. I am exactly the same person at church as I am with my friends, both swinger and non-swinger. Do people bring their sex toys to church to use in sacrament meeting? No. Well, they must be two-faced too. Who I am as a core human being is not defined by us having extracurricular bedroom activities. There is no lying or deceitfulness. You may think it's wrong, but my husband and I (and several other LDS swingers we know) are comfortable with our choice to play and can still be decent moral people. I don't wish to argue, just wanted to voice that I don't feel ANYBODY has the right to judge.

Wow ....check this out... - - DJQ wrote: Wow... This thread suddenly got popular while I wasn't looking... Kids, I'll try to give each of your posts the consideration they deserve (about 2 seconds, in some cases; in others, a bit more) later, but right now I have tonight's class to prepare for, and I'd hate to have to tell my students that I didn't get the class materials ready because I was chatting with a bunch of swingers about Dubya Bush... (grin) And after class, I have a gratuitous booty call scheduled, and then a busy day at work tomorrow... so look for replies on Thursday evening or Friday... Thanks for pitching in... .................................................................................................. Someone get the smelling salts. I think DJQ is unconscious again. He's clicking his heels together and mumbling a bunch of nonsense. I know, I know he does that when he's awake too. Just get the salts anyway. Booty call???? That would require for your hand to have a booty DJQ. Booties are not something drawn on. You should know this. Oh and Don't forget the Dungeon Master's Guide when you're "teaching" your students. Next time you should get out a bullhorn and walk down the street. You are a master of self-flattery DJQ. It makes you look that much more like a blowhard prick. These are just some observations from a couple that has actually met people on this site. Take it how you will. Knowing you, you'll come up with something only you find witty and miss the helpful hint in this post. (GRIN) -TR-

Breaking the 4th wall - meeting a swinger in a vanilla situation. - [quote=FUN4MWF]Rather than jump on the bandwagon and agree with everyone all teenie-bopper style, I'd need more info. Did you articulate in your email EXACTLY who you are, as in your real name and job and how you knew them and the specific circumstances that allowed you to recognize them?[/quote] Basically my e-mail was: "Hi, I'm James, the male half of Blueidkat, I work as a sales rep for a national beverage company and consequently call on a lot of retail locations along the Wasatch Front. The other day I was at Blah business in Blah City and noticed someone who looks a lot like you. I know with all the swingers in Utah I must bump into some, everyday, and not realize it. It was so cool to possibly recognize a lifestyler out there in the vanilla world and just wondered if I was right." I understand the whole fear of being stalked and the need for anonimity but are we that afraid? Do we need to be?

Camping play? - Opinions - [quote=DODGE1]We are looking at some property in Duchesne and turning it in to a swingers camp ground. Do you think anyone would be interested in some thing like that [/quote] Yes sign us up twice

Whats concidered BBW? - - As swingers maybe we would like to think that the only reason monogamy became so prevalent and popular in western society is because religions, governments and a male dominance ploy all worked together as a mean to achieve power and control etc., etc., and for that reason all other forms of sexuality have been subject to persecution. I think there is a valid argument and facts to support the theory that the enforcement of monogamy is somewhat conspiratorial and not all based on the idea that it is the ultimate good or best relationship. However, perhaps, it is, socially also somewhat advantageous, in that it is so much easier to be polite. We all work and socialize with people that we hold in high esteem that we do not find sexually attractive. In a monogamous world where sex is usually not on the table for consideration, in interpersonal relations, the offense of rejecting and the pain of rejection are avoided. I think that removing sex from consideration in so many social interactions has perhaps, provided for some level of peace and has, perhaps, promoted the general welfare. So to be a swinger, and happy, do we, perhaps, have to be a bit more enlightened than the average Joe or Jane? Because sex drive originates from our primitive brain, which is not rational, we do not have absolute control over what we find sexy. So what we reject and what we accept are somewhat out of our control. Perhaps, all we should expect from our higher brain function is all the added color and dimensions to sex we can oh so enjoy. That is a lot and that is what makes the primitive urges so much more fun for us, I would speculate, than for any other species. So what 99.999999995 of humanity share is a primitive urge for sex. Preference is subject to and more fully experienced by our unique higher brain function and all the abstracts of preference. Never-the-less, we do not seem to be able to ever completely escape a certain level of primitive hard wiring and perhaps a certain level of social conditioning too. We all want to be accepted and fit. Devotees of the joys of BBW, given the chance will fulfill all their primitive needs in a sea of wonderful expansive abstractions that will color the experience and make it somewhat sacred. Same goes for most any other preference save those that ignore the needs, wants and safety of their partner. Hence those hard wired to be gay, can and should and I hope do swim in a sea of gay fulfillment. Those that are hard wired heterosexual can and I hope do, swim in a sea of heterosexual fulfillment and those bisexual will swim in their own sea and so it goes for those that yearn to swim in the sea of BBW or any other preference. To be an enlightened and a totally happy citizen of the swing community, perhaps, we should remember that albeit the water is just dandy in the sea in the which we choose to swim that the water is just as dandy in the pools we are not predisposed to enjoy. If someone, decides, that they really want to swim in a different pool, well that is their preference and if being comfortable in the pool requires they make a few changes, then, perhaps, the best thing we can do is wish them well and support their decision. Choosing to change is after all a preference we all, should perhaps, respect and support.

Creating an Amazing Swingers Profile - How to market yourself better - Shit! We aren't verified. We are totally screwed. ;) I'd like to add that an effort to capitalize and punctuate is greatly appreciated. If you can spell, that's just an added bonus. If you know the difference between to, too and two and your and you're the Mrs. gets a hard-on. Just sayin'. Shit. I think I spelled that wrong. ~The Mrs.

Wannabes and net fakes - Will the real lifestyle members please stand up - How many of you have taken the time to examine just how many of the coined and meaningless profiles there are on the net in general, not just here on this site. We have been in the lifestyle as life as allowed for over 25 yrs. Long before the introduction of the net. Now it seems the lifestyle as an entire new perspective. Lets see we have who knows how many version of "swingers" Hard, soft, mild, wild, interested, looking for, etc etc. That said and in consideration of all of these well coined and copied versions, I have a suggestion for one, HOW ABOUT "REAL" Real replies to emails or messages, Real arrives for scheduled meetings, Real post genuine pictures, Real is proud of their gender and does not have to "fake" another's, Real would never open a dialogue with "interested what are you looking for", Real has actually either involved themselves in the lifestyle or at the least have a genuine desire to physically do so, not play games. And finally, "Real" respects others by being real in person, on the net and or the phone, Give it a try people, you may find this lifestyle very interesting by being "Real"

NO PIC Profile Poll...Do You Open/Search Them? - "YES" or "NO" answers ONLY please.... - I'm a professional I want to be discreet Sensitive reasons. You may be a great looking couple, but I'll never know..... If some one is on this site, more then likely they are swingers too. So who cares if they see your picture. Without a profile pic , you may be missing meeting some great people. Its the pic that catches my attention , then reading the profile to see if there is any match or interest is what I (female) look for.

Place to Hang out and Play - Have an Idea - It surely seams that the number of swingers in Utah is LARGE. I have heard some thing before like, (Utah has the most subscriptions to sexy magazines per capita) and that the numbers of swingers in Utah is in the top 5 on the list. So with all those people how is it Utah is still so controlling of what the people want? Here in Florida we have ON PREMISE clubs that are completely legal. Yes every now and then the news tries to gain a few points with the religious WRONG. For the most part if the club keeps it's nose clean everyone else stays out of it. We also have house parties and places called house parties that are 3 days a week every week. It's by invitation only and you BYO-drinks, a dish to pass and most donate to the cause. Keep in mind these are BY INVITATION ONLY... Meaning if you don't donate you may never be invited back. The owners DO live there and have regular bills sent to these homes. There are some that move around from hotel to hotel also. By invitation only... About a year ago a house party was busted out in the sticks. A few people were harassed by the local news jerks. Since then that TV station has lost a large number of people watching them due to their ON CAMERA BS... We are members of an ON PREMISE club in Port Richey, Fl. The police have been trying to find a reason to shut our doors a few times. 1st go around was people that lived in the vicinity. This brought on an investigation and the TV NEWS CREWS. They interviewed many of the homeowners and also the people in the stores below the club. Well the neighborhood wanted us out and the store owners wanted us to stay pointing out how clean and decent things have been since the BAR upstairs became a nice quiet swingers club. About 6 months or so ago the TV NEWS crews were at it again. This time the people in the neighborhood watch all around the club had said their crime rate had dropped like a rock. NO reports of anyone ever needing the police or an ambulance and no homeless people hanging around trying to sponge off people anymore either. Also no broken bottles in the parking lot. So now the locals are happy with us... Go figure...