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AZ Clubs - - [quote=JADEANDJAY]Not sure if it's still there, but when we used to live there we used to frequent Club Chameleon or Guys and Dolls.[/quote]
Both have been gone for several years now. Chameleon was one of the best in the US. I have had some spectacular times there. The owners opened a diner on the east side of the valley after their club got closed down. Even though some of the old club regulars show up there, it never turned into a pick up joint.
Somehow, Discretions & Encounters both survived in Phoenix. They are both much more low brow. I think that I know who put the screws to Chameleon, but I'm not 100% sure, so I'm not going to name names. The person that I think it was, got thrown out for being too drunk & rowdy, then went on a rampage in revenge. He was a hot rod builder with a lot of attitude. The last words that I remember from him were "you mess with the bull, you get the horns".
There are a few bars in town that host meet & greets for local Yahoo groups, but the crowds there tend to be a bit cliquish.
There is a low key party in Havisu that is very good, but it's hard to find & hard to get an invite. Havisu in general is a good place to pick up party girls if you have a boat on the lake.
Tucson has an upscale nudist resort that attracts a small amount of low key swingers. Tucson also has a honkey tonk Drink-em-up bar that is run by "god" & boasts a well equipped side room for people who are feeling frisky. Just ask "god" for the "full tour" & you will get an eyefull.
West of Phoenix, there are some mud baths & hot springs that occasionally see some playful action.
A little north of the city, near round valley, there are some hiking areas with swimming holes that sometimes attract frisky individuals.
If you are looking for kink in Phoenix, try APEX.
If you want better odds at a good swinging experience, hop a quick flight over to Vegas. It's not that far. California has even better options, but it's a bit more of a ride.
Is it a “preference” or is it “ discrimination” - - [quote=massageBBCguy][quote=VANESSA_BABY][quote=massageBBCguy]Omg.. seriously?
Ok. I am really getting tired of all this.. if you don’t then you are a racist.
Ok swingers and single.. let’s push Congress to re-amend the 1964 Civil rights act to create a new cause of action “Failure to fuck a minority” and create a federal regulation requiring members to post “I am an Equal Opportunity Swinger”..
I hope this helps. Ugh...[/quote]
I’m not saying because they are not getting fucked I get plenty fucked. I think you mis understood me.[/quote]Cause of Action is the reason for a lawsuit.. well here ——-A cause of action, in law, is a set of facts sufficient to justify a right to sue to obtain money, property, or the enforcement of a right against another part—— “Failure to fuck” doesn’t really mean you are not getting plenty of sex.. it means for example.. “Failure to hire” against a white employer.. a “failure to fuck” against white swinger. I hope that helps.[/quote]
It’s funny cause you have hit me up a couple of times
The let down. - - Tammy = Shy as hell
Blueeyes = Flirty Bitch
Buzzed Blueeyes = Horny Flirty Bitch
I think people react to how the situation around them makes them feel. For instance, I don't care how hot you are, if you are wearing a black business suit and their is a coffin anywhere near I'm not going to get turned on. But if you are chatty, flirty, engaging me mentally later over sliced ham, funeral potatoes, and jello salad, I might actually mentally go there....but you will never know it.
Meet and Greets are 6 one way, half a dozen the other. I react to the chemistry that is present. No chemistry, no playtime. I think people need to get away from the assumption that getting naked is a requirement just because 2 swingers are in proximity with each other. It's ok to hold out for a connection - physical or mental. It doesn't make you any less of a swinger if you don't fuck everyone you meet. Altho if you do, it might make you dehydrated.
There is a whole host of reasons why or why not. Control what you can, fuck the rest. Figuratively and literally.
xox
Tammy
Going out on a limb... - - i have been a member for over 2 years now and i do have to be honest and i have not met anyone off of this site yet. i have tried a few times but they were not interested which is fine by me. but i do have alot of fun on this site reading posts and going into the chat room. and i figure one day i will find that right single or couple and we'll have fun. but this site is not just about finding someone to meet. i find this website fun to chat and learn about other swingers likes and dislikes. but you do have one thing going for you.....you do live in utah.....LOL. well i'm not sure what exactly your looking for but i have heard of other singles on this web site meeting with couples. but again it's up to you. well good luck with this site.
Black Rings - Do Swingers really? - We wear the black rings, not sure if people notice though
Happy Thanksgiving - - Happy holidays to all you sexy swingers out there
Observations from the other side of the room - Some unsolicited advice - [quote=EVILDOERS]All good advice. You should give seminars to the GAZILLIONS of single males who think female swingers are nymphomaniac, wanton sluts who will fuck anyone, any time, anywhere and that their husbands/partners are pathetic, impotent cucks who don't know how to please their partners and need a "real" man to satisfy their wives/girlfriends. You could make BANK teaching the utterly clueless how to act like a gentleman and do a service to the lifestyle by helping to weed out the twatwaffles who have no business even ATTEMPTING to enter a lifestyle they know nothing about and should leave immediately![/quote]
This. We dont want to resort to blocking single male messages but lately its getting to that point. I feel after CL closed its doors, a lot more SMs turned up here unfamiliar with the community.
Swingers Next Door! - ABC news story on Swinging! - Very good article, thanks for sharing!
Stabbing at swingers party? - - i was down in ut over the weekend too see daughters and take the last harley trip of the year and also saw a little on the news....for what it it worth on their reporting skills....apparently a few ppl were enguaging in an activity that the host "didnt" approve of so he had them leave then they returned later and thats when the stabbing occured....dennis
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - We are interested in a setup like this as well!
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