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Freedom of the Seas Swinger Cruise Nov 2012 - - [quote=JONJOY17]Is it really that much? We were looking into it but only on the website. Never made any calls... [/quote]
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In retrospec, that isn't too bad. Desire costs $400 a day per couple so this is right in line.
Mav
PS. Anyone want to open a Swingers resort and make some good money? ;)
What would you do? - what does a person do when their spouse no longer wishes to paticipate - Well.
How amazing that the "couple in question" just happens to be in my home town. And my wife and I are at a serious impasse about the same subject, but in the "traditional direction" i.e. I still want it. She still doesn't.
I'm... very surprised that a bunch of Swingers are so unanimous that "No trumps yes": that swinging is just something you do - but are ashamed of enough that any "no" in the group instantly defines the partner's life as well. Why isn't "yes" just as valid?
In our case, we've been married for over 25 years. We've had a very-good run. Our children are grown and gone. We're financially comfortable. And we're still physically capable - as we watch our parents be physically unable to walk, hear, see, pee, or do much of anything to enjoy *anything* - the point there being that I hear the clock ticking and to me, this is THE time of life to reap one's reward for the life one has lead - before it's too late to do anything but try to keep breathing.
And for me, being honest, the ONE thing that is my reward - is erotic fun. Let me be clear that what I crave is *erotic fun* - not just madly try to find someone new to fuck and never see again - but partners who want to wallow in the erotic experience of "Truth or Dare" and Lifestyle conventions and teasing and games. That's IT for me. That's why "doing it" is called "doing IT". And I've been a great husband/father/responsible citizen for over 50 years. And I feel that there isn't anything else in my life that really gives me a "reason for living".
And my wife, bless her, just has never had any passion. She enjoys it when I have sex with her. When I give her a nice massage followed by 3 or 4 orgasms. But she's happy with twice a month or less. And she had no need at all for my "erotic experiences". So here we are. And over the last 10 years we've tried pretty-much every possibility: traditional fidelity, me cheating, us swinging, me swinging alone with her permission... and it always ultimately winds up that the only way she is not *miserable* is if I'm following "traditional fidelity". And the only way I'm not miserable - is if I have the freedom to pursue erotic associations.
Now. If my passion were bowling, there wouldn't be a problem. If her passion were gardening or shoe shopping, there wouldn't be a problem. Everybody would just tell us to do our thing without the other - and enjoy what we *do* enjoy together. But somehow sex is THE one that we have to do *together* or not at all.
So we're very very seriously trying to figure out if we'd both be happier by tearing up a marriage and going our separate ways.
We can all *say* that whoever does NOT want to swing - rules the day, but imagine whatever your very-favorite thing is to do. Then imagine your spouse telling you: "I don't like to do that, so WE won't ever do that and You won't do it without me - and you won't do it alone, either - ever again". Now what?
This one time at Swingers Camp - Discussion about N by N camp out - We had a Blast. Enjoyed meeting new people and seeing old friend.
Swingers - a couples only lifestyle? - Are singles considered to be swingers? - This a NON BASHING post everyone - let's keep things civil.
Who’s had luck with single guys? - - [quote=Athleticeuropean]No worries, I will not participate in such forums anymore. Not use to be judged by people who has never met. Have a great weekend.[/quote]
It’s Utah get used to it!
Don’t worry about some of them, they can’t even show up to their own meet ups.
But seriously put some pictures and info on your profile. This is a swingers site. If you want to join them you have to establish trust before they are going to take time to meet let alone fuck you. Most cheater singles are the ones with no pictures.
We have met some great singles men on here. One or two will be long time friends.
Do you only play with married couples? - - Marriage has little to do with this lifestyle. I've found that swingers (libertines) are a state of being or mindset and not a label given to any one group. Singles can be swingers too. Unmarried couples can be as well. Swinger is a broad label. Marriage has nothing to do with it.
-D-
EROTIC ELECTRONIC CIRCUS - Anyone know anything about this? EROTIC ELECTRONIC CIRCUS - Has anyone been to or know anything about "EROTIC ELECTRONIC CIRCUS " in Vegas?
Links found on the internet.
http://invisionevents.net/events/7226
http://thewonderlandparty.com/sessions/new
https://www.kasidie.com/swingers/parties/51473/the-erotic-electronic-circus-las-vegas-nv.html
BUSTED! Your Kids Found Out Your Swingers. Now What? - - Tell them that your sex life is none of their business and keep rolling.
Swinging and the Mormon Church - - We know and have known many active Mormon swingers over the years and I think they pretty much have a personal "don't ask don't tell" policy. And, of course, they lie...to their Bish or whoever when asked if they're chaste and stuff. I'm fairly certain most religions pretty much frown on wife swapping and most other forms of sexual relations with someone other than your God approved spouse. So I think the bottom line for most people who espouse a religion would be denial or simply willful disregard of THAT particular religious doctrine. However, as FORMER Mormons (well raised that way, anyway) we do know that there is sort of a loophole that many may not be aware of so you can basically fuck other peeps (and do other naughty shit...short of murder) and still go to heaven...eventually. Check out D&C 132:26. Now the way I interpret that "scripture" I'm pretty much covered (even though I'm an atheist) and will still get to go to heaven and stuff if on the VERY slim chance I'm wrong and it isn't all bullshit. ;-)
Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - We are going to unspoken tomorrow night. Anyone else going?
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