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Single Men Meeting Couples - Are Single Men Treated Un Fairly In The Lifestyle - In an earlier response someone wrote: ______________________________________________________________________________ *** Short & Sweet: In our opinion, we don't view single men in the swinging lifestyle as swingers - more like single men wanting to have easy sex (most of them anyway) with someone else's wife. They bring nothing to the "table" that another man "within a couple" could bring. *** ______________________________________________________________________________ What anyone brings to the table in the lifestlye is highly subjective; it would greatly depend on what you were looking for in the first place wouldnt it? While we have met quite a few single men who were lying assholes, we have also met as many who were complete gentleman who earned our respect and trust. As for having "easy" sex with someone else's wife...well, it shouldnt be all that easy should it? That is, unless we as couples are as indiscriminate as the single men are about with whom we have sexual relations. What is the proverbial "table" anyway? What you bring to the "table" is YOU, or yourselves if you are a couple. What you have to offer can only be valued by those who would recognize and appreciate your contribution. It isn't a swap meet. (My wife for your wife.) That is a classic misconception about who we are and what we do as lifestylers. During the "key " parties of the 70's this was the general attitude, but those days are gone. We are a much more sophisticated breed now, who have exprienced a sexual evolution unlike anything our parents could have imagined, thanks to the addition of the internet and sites like this one. There are GAY swinging couples comprised of 2 MEN. We have no desire to date them, but we do not disagree with their right to participate....Are they swingers? Absolutely! Why not? They seek what we do for all of the same reasons. Who are we to determine their place, or value in the lifestyle? A lot of couples take a very narrow view on this subject, which to me is very sad. I am here to tell you that the word "swinger" is absolutely NOT synonymous with the phrase "wife swapper". That archaic, stupid phrase only hurts us as lifestylers, and is not truly representative of who we are, and what we do. "Threesome" does not ONLY imply 2 women and a man. We come in all flavors, with varying desires and fantasies to fullfill. Many times (and we have seen this too many times to count in the last 13 years swinging) it is the MAN of the COUPLE who is too insecure to allow HIS wife to be with another man, 3some or couple! So they only date single women... or attempt to atleast. LoL. I am not saying that this is true for everyone. But I have seen it too many times to count. The hypocrisy is staggering. Everyone makes choices, and we are all free to make them. We do not judge those who choose to only date couples. YES, there are single male assholes in the world. The fact that they are single does NOT make them a health risk. Swinging COUPLES have far more sex than ANY of the single men I know! Most of the COUPLES we know have done things in the clubs that these poor guys can only jerk off too in their dreams, with far far more regularity. A well dressed, well mannered, MATURE, professional male who is not cheating on his spouse, looking to attempt cause trouble in someone's marriage, and wants to have a great time with an honest couple is out there. We have met scores of them! Police officers, doctors, lawyers, business professionals....you cant sell me that they are all midnight "corner store" Johns looking for a cheap sexual fix with any pussy that comes along. Geesh, guys have standards too. I have FAR MORE sex than ANY single man I know! And so do the rest of you couples! Unless ofcourse they are college kids, and then....come on! What wild and crazy college aged 22 year old man ISNT looking for pussy in bars and strip clubs? Is THAT who you would swing with anyway? If there were as many single women swinging as single men, there would be quite a few single WOMEN assholes out there too. We live right next to The University of Maryland, so I employ some of the biggest hookers I have seen anywhere, anytime. I say, pick through the weeds, be selective about with whom you have sex (shouldn't we anyway?), and let the chips fall where they may. Thats what the lifestyle is all about. Just my $1.25... Luvbugs! (mR.) ;)

Trying to find a fun "lifestyle-nude" resort for a vacation... - any suggestions... which are better.. hedo11, hedo111, desire, etc.. (others) thanks - We have been to a number of the nudist resorts around the Southeast US and Florida. The posts that advise that overtly sexual activity in the public areas is not allowed are correct. That is not to say that there is not some touching and flirting but it is generally in the hot tub or conversation pools and very late at night. The more "adult" nudist resorts we have visited are: Paradise Lakes, north of Tampa -- nice upscale resort. The dance on Saturday night can get very close to an off premises swingers club. Couples can connect at the dance, move to the conversation pool and then back to your room or condo. Caliente, a bit farther north of Tampa -- a true resort, very upscale. The dance on Saturday night can get wild but in our experience a bit more restrained (other than the ladies costumes) when compared to Paradise Lakes. Both Paradise Lakes and Caliente have Yahoo Groups that serve as an swingers introduction service. Pleasure Grove -- north of Atlanta near Cleveland GA. -- This is not an AANR resort so they are more relaxed about adult play. It is couples only, adults only. After the dance on Saturday night the party moves over to the Charter House. The Charter House is an on premises swingers forum. The problem is the accomdations are very rustic and the crowd can be small in numbers and large in other ways. One thing to remember as you explore adult resorts is that not all nudists are swingers and not all swingers are nudists. If you decide to try any of this adult play grounds, drop us a line. We have a home in Florida about an hour from Paradise and Caliente and a home in the mountains about 15 minutes from Pleasure Grove.

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - BICOU4BIF_FL, Again, your experience is unique to you. It's been our experience that very few single men have been "pushy" or disrespectful. It's different for all of us and doesn't justify anyone trying to foil every single males swinging life by campaigning against them as a whole. Intolerance is never justified. If you choose individually not to play with singles, then that is ok. We all have our preference. However, why try and bad mouth the entire group, in an attempt to demonize them to everyone else or to exclude them from social gatherings. If you invite people that are interested in single males to your parties, it will even things out. I think a lot of it has to do with insecurity. I have yet to see a married woman fuck a single male at a party without the her and husband's consent. Alton wrote: "but thats your opinion ,,you are right & we are wrong then again we are right & you are wrong,, it's funny, its a no win situation,lol" Thanks for validating my analogy for murder, abortion, marijuana or any other subject. If you say it's ok to be racist, because it's your opinion. Then it should be ok to murder, because it's your opinion. Your logic is flawed. ;-) -D-

A NEW SITE TO SELL AND BUY SEXY STUFF - u may sell anything sexy there - A FEW OF YALL HAVE WRITTEN ME SAYING U ARE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING ON THE SITE . THERE IS DIFFERENT PARTS TO THE SITE . THERE IS JUST A SWINGERS SITE TO JUST TALK AND MEET PEOPLE . AND THEN THERE IS THE AUCTION PART . WHERE U SELL AND BUY STUFF AT . U HAVE TO SIGN UP FOR BOTH PARTS . AND THEN CLICK ON WHERE U WANT TO GO ONCE U ARE ON THE MAIN PAGE . IF U HAVE ANY PROBLEMS PLEASE EMAIL ME AND ILL WALK U THROUGH IT . DONT FORGET ABOUT THE PIC CONTEST . IF U ARENT SHY THEN PLEASE ADD SOME NAUGHTY PICS TO THE CONTEST SO U CAN GET THE CHANCE TO WIN SOMETHING SEXY AND NAUGHTY . AND TO THOSE THAT ARE WAITING FOR THE PANTIES TO COME IN THEY SHOULD BE HERE IN A FEW DAYS . AS SOON AS I GET THEM THEY WILL BE UP ON THE SITE . IF U KNOW A PARTY IS COMING UP LET ME KNOW THE THEME AND ILL TRY TO FIND SOME STUFF FOR YOU .I WAS ALSO THINKING ABOUT PUTTING A WANT AD FOR STUFF . SO U CAN WRITE FOR SOMETHING U ARE LOOKING FOR AND SEE IF ANYONE HAS IT THAT WOULD WANT TO SELL IT . WHAT DO YALL THINK ABOUT THAT .????????? I AM LOOKING FOR A SWING . BUT I DONT THINK ANYONE THAT HAS ONE WILL SELL IT ... HA HA HA NAUGHTY DREAMS FREAKY KITTY

Meet swingers in Tooele - Where do the swingers hang out in Tooele? - Thanks haven't been able to find any info also

LDS Survey Results - - Wow.... just wow. I would have hoped that since we have all made the decision to swing and embrace the lifestyle, that people would be accepting of one another. Does it really matter if someone is Mormon? Is it truly necessary to bash someone's religion to that extent? There should be no place or tolerance for that here. My husband and I are active LDS, and I am not ashamed to say so. We both attended BYU and we have no guilt. We took a marriage prep class in college and the teacher told us that whatever happens in the bedroom stays in the bedroom. As long as both parteners are comfortable with what is going on and nobody is being degraded, it's all good. We view extra partners as a sex toy... nothing more. We keep our lines of communication open, we only play when our marriage is strong and we are not having any disagreements. It has actually saved our marriage and we are doing better than we ever have before. We both hold prominent callings in our ward. I thought this survey was very interesting... we haven't had much opportunity to meet other LDS swingers in so.cal (though we hear they do exist), so seeing the experiences and beliefs of others elsewhere is very nice.

Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - [quote=WOLFMAJESTIC]We just really do couple to couple time according to schedules, Tiffs parties when we can ;) there's plenty of people to meet, and haven't planned our full moon summer party yet..lol[/quote] Ahh..Tiff's parties..we We like them, too..LOL guess we need to have a few more! And a Full Moon party? Sounds fun! We're up for a little howling!

Does anybody really... - ANOTHER annoying poll. - ...fuck anymore? We've talked to quite a few people who have been in the lifestyle for some time now and have yet to hook up and fuck so we thought we'd ask the obvious question as to whether swingers actually still hook up and fuck each other. *Disclaimer: Though we've been in the lifestyle for a long time we've never been SUPER active and have actually gone months at a time and even, occasionally, a few YEARS without playing. In fact, right now it's been probably 2-3 years since we've actually fucked anyone else because life has a tendency to totally get in the way sometimes. 1) Yes, actually. We hook-up and fuck regularly. We're actually quite slutty and fuck other people every chance we get...and that's fairly often. 2) Nope. Swinger sex is just an urban legend...a myth. Nobody really fucks anyone else. Only in Penthouse Letters...or in bad pornos. 3) 2 or 3 YEARS?!!? What are you, monks?!!? 4) We've been wondering the same thing. We're sorta new and have yet to fuck anybody. 5) Swinging is dead. It's been replaced by CrossFit and video games. 6) We'll fuck you, Evil. We're totally into throwing someone a pity fuck. 7) We wouldn't fuck you guys with somebody ELSE'S genitals! 8) You should try the nude beach at the GSL. One billion brine flies can't be wrong. 9) Sex with others is SCARY. We're just here for the titillation factor. 10) You think YOU have trouble getting laid. Try being a single male. 11) Feel free to add your own poll answer. ps-We're NOT trying to get laid. We're just bored (and a little drunk) on a Sunday evening and there's nothing good on TV. [em]Emo_70[/em]

Swingers now officially a high risk group for STDs and STIs - Do your own research - Hmmmm no oral swabbing? How do we know you haven't been performing cunnilingus on Catherine Zeta Jones? Actually, HPV LOVES to hide out around the posterior tonsillar pillars. Bet you didn't get swabbed there...unless you can deep throat. [em]Emo_62[/em]

Simpsons: Is Marge going to be a Swinger? - - [quote=GINGERG][quote=SEXPERIMENTORS]In the shows season finally on Sunday, May 19th Marge joins a swingers on-line dating site. Seth MacFarlane, the shows creator, lends his voice to a married man that Marge meets on the site. This should be interesting. Mr. Sexperimentors [/quote] I don't think Seth MacFarlane makes that show, and i'm pretty sure the creaters mom who he named marge after just died[/quote] You are correct. Marge Groening died recently in her 90s. The show's creator is Matt Groening of Portland, Oregon, who named the character after his mother. Mrs. Enlightened, in her college days, worked at an all night Portland diner and one of her regulars in the wee hours of the morning was a struggling young cartoonist who would doodle images on the napkins and get her thoughts. Yep, Matt Groening. She remembers panning his idea of a woman with big blue hair. Good thing he did not listen to her. Groening no longer writes the episodes. There are about 16 writers, and occasionally they have a guest writer (quite often it is Joel Coen of Fargo and Big Lebowski fame). Always possible Seth MacFarlane is a guest writer.