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Question - do you talk about other swingers? - After giving this question alot of thought and consideration, we have come to the conclusion that first it might be very helpful to meet someone. Then after meeting you might have something or someone to talk about. As soon as we have our first experience, we might find ourselves more qualified to give an answer. Hopefully that will happen before we are great grandparents.. (LOL) JK.
looking for men - would like a few good men - We are very discreet, clean and D and D free. We would love to meet a few men that we could play with on a regular basis. We are not looking for numbers or super experinced swingers. Too risky. Just someone to have regular fun with.
Sensitivities - a paradox? - I think you're right that "L'S'ers" vary in personality and other traits just like the mainstream population. I think there is a "liberal" stigma associated with the lifestyle that just isn't true. I mean seriously, why would it be any different than the mainstream? The only thing most people here do differently is their sex life. Some people here fuck like bunnies on Friday and Saturday and go beg their god for forgiveness on Sunday. A lot of swingers are more conservative than most vanillas.
"Swinging" only makes one sexually liberal. Swinging is a sexuality trait and not a lifestyle. It may be considered a lifestyle for those that constantly evade friends, work, church and family in their daily pursuit of hook-ups. However, as a libertine, "swinging" is only one aspect, of a liberal lifestyle that I, myself, wish to obtain. It's not a necessity, yet not forbidden... It's a choice I can make with no consequence.
Soft-core roll call - A call out to those interested in the softer side. - Canvas,
It sounds like you and your wife are not quite on the same page yet, which is quite normal at the beginning of exploring the Lifestyle. You are looking for friendships with those who are in a similar situation. That's a good idea, but be prepared that even those friendships may be fleeting as the chemistry or level of comfort may still be different.
At the beginning of our lifestyle journey, my wife and I were just as you are today, (I was also at a different level as my wife too). TheFunCouple offers excellent advice on going to meet & greets. I also add that you might want to check out a place like Sea Mountain Inn in Palm Springs. There you can see how comfortable it is to be nude in front of others and witness all the different levels of the lifestyle. You will have opportunities to talk to others and learn more. There is no pressure to play. Plus, you will be out of Utah and away from people who might recognize you.
If you are adventurous enough, maybe plan a vacation to Temptations Resort in Mexico. This resort is not truly a lifestyle resort but is a lifestyle friendly resort since so many non swingers go there. It still is a sexually charged resort. You will meet a lot of people who are similar to you there and you have a whole week to be relaxed, get into vacation mode, and explore your steps into the lifestyle together without judgement or pressure.
Paper or Plastic? - - Republican swingers...go figure that one out, sort of like jumbo shrimp...
Hot discussion - Hook up section? - lmao, some of the worst things I've seen and heard came from married people, both men & women. I know a complete and utter hotty that hates swingers, and the way they treat women, so she refuses to interact with them. And she's interacted with a LOT of married swingers.
New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - My husband already posted on this topic a while back, but I’m now adding my opinion.
In addition to state law hurdles and liquor licensing nightmare laws, each city has difficult sexually oriented business licensing requirements and ordinances. Yes, a nieve person will think that a swingers club is not a sexually oriented business, but city leaders and members of the public will make a big push to ensure a swingers club fits within the ordinance definitions. The licensing process is very public and anyone involved in the licensing will have a lot of exposure. Licensing applications often require background checks, names, business site visits and walkthroughs, and ongoing mandatory surveys after the business opens. Publicity and continued legal battles with the state and city scare couples away.
Research Plato’s a Short-lived swingers club in NYC that was briefly open. During its existence it was continually challenged, closed, reopened, raided, and ultimately put out of business. If NYC ensures Plato's went out of business how is a swingers club in Utah going to fare?
This is a link to SLC’s Sexually Orented Businesses overview page that has links to the ordinance. Most other cities have some type of ordinance like this. http://www.slcgov.com/business-licensing/sob
Keep having house parties. . . .
single men - why is it we have such a hard time? - TO T 4REAL69,
I REALLY LIKED WHAT U HAD TO SAY . I WISH MORE SINGLE GUYS WERE LIKE U . AND I LOOKED AT YOUR PICS AND PROFILE . AND DAMN U ARE HOT !!!!!!!!!
I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT SOME PEOPLE ARENT LOOKING FOR SINGLE GUYS . BUT I ALSO DONT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE MAKE SUCH A BAD JUDGEMENT CALL ON THEM JUST CAUSE THEY ARE SINGLE GUYS . WE GO TO ALOT OF PARTIES . AND YES THERE IS A FEW HERE AND THERE THAT ARE RUDE OR PUSHY . BUT I HAVESO MANY MORE PROBLEMS WITH THE MARRIED MEN . WE LOVE TO HANG OUT WITH FUN PEOPLE . SINGLE ,COUPLES , BLACK AND WHITE AND ANYTHING IN BETWEEN . WE LIKE TO GET TO KNOW PEOPLE AND PLAY WITH ONLY THE ONES THAT WE REALLY CLICK WITH .BUT WE LOVE MEETING NEW FRIENDS AND HANGING OUT AND HAVING FUN .
TO US THE OPEN LIFE STYLE HAS MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS AND EVERYBODY SHOULD UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THAT EVERYBODY IS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING DIFFEENT . SWINGING IS FOR OPEN MINDED PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SHARE AND EXPLORE TOG . MOST OF THE TIME SINGLE GUYS ACT LIKE ITS JUST A FAST PIECE OF ASS .OR THAT CAUSE THEY WENT TO A SWINGERS PARTY THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE HOOKED UP WITH A BUNCH OF PEOPLE . I HAVE NOTICED THAT ALOT OF SINGLE GUYS WORRY ABOUT HOOKING UP EVERYTIME THEY GO TO A PARTY . AND IT SHOWS THAT THEY ARE THERE FOR ONE THING . NOT ALL BUT ALOT . AND THAT ATTITUDE IS A HUGE TURN OFF . ALOT OF THIER PROFILES HAVE TONS OF PICS OF JUST THIER COCKS . EVEN IF IT IS A TOOL LIKE NO ONE ELSES. THAT DOESNT MEAN THAT WE NEED TO SEE IT IN A BUNCH OF PICS . I THINK IF SINGLE GUYS ACTED AND TALKED WITH RESPECT AND PUT A LITLE BIT MORE EFFORT INTO THIER PROFILE THEY WOULD HAVE A BETTER CHANCE .
I TALK TO ALOT OF PEOPLE AND HANG OUT WITH ALOT OF PEOPLE . AND WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR NEW FRIENDS . SINGLE OR MARRIED COUPLE WE SHOW RESPECT AND WE DEMAND RESPECT . WE ARE NOT AT PARTIES JUST TO HOOK UP . WE ARE NOT ON SWINGING SITES JUST TO FIND NEW PLAY MATES . I CAN T STAND THE EMAILS THAT SAY . HI WHEN CAN WE MEET ? HI .. I CANT WAIT TO PLAY WITH U . ALL OF THAT SEX TALK BEFORE WE EVEN SAY HI AND KNOW WHO THEY ARE IS A HUGE TURN OFF . I DONT CARE WHO THEY ARE MARRIED OR SINGLE . THEY NEED TO SHOW RESPECT AND WAIT TO BE OFFERED AND INVITED TO PLAY . I DONT CARE IF THEY WANT TO TALK DIRTY BUT DAMN WAIT UNTIL I KNOW THEM SOME WHAT . ALOT OF SINGLE GUYS ACT LIKE THEY CAN JUST WALK UP INTO A PARTY AND ALL THE GIRLS SHOULD BE WANTING THEM . THATS NOT THE CASE . SWINGING IS ABOUT SHAREING AND EXPLORING . KINDA OF LIKE IN A LOVING WAY . AND ALOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A WAY OF MAKING IT SEEM SO CHEAP AND NASTY . BUT LIKE I SAID I HAVE MORE PROBLEMS WITH THE MARRIED MEN . I HAVE ALOT OF SINGLE GUY FRIENDS THAT I DONT PLLAY WITH AT ALL BUT THEY LOVE TO HANG OUT WITH US . AND LIKE ANYONE ELSE IF THEY CAN SHOW RESPECT AND NOT BEING PUSHY THEN THEY ARE MORE THEN WELCOME TO HANG OUT WITH US .
I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO REALIZE THAT NO MATTER WHO U ARE U ARENT GOING TO BE EVERYBODY TYPE . DONT WORRY ABOUT THE ONES THAT DONT WANT U . GO TO PARTIES AND WRITE IN CHATS AND GET TO KNOW PEOPLE .AND THEN GO WITH THE FLOW . DONT BE IN SUCH A RUSH . AND A TIP FOR SINGLE GUYS BUT A LITTLE THOUGHT INTO YOUR PROFILE AND PICS. I DONT WRITE ANYONE THAT HAS JUST PRIVATE SHOTS OR SIMPLE ONE LINERS IN THEIR PROFILE . WE ALREDY KNOW U WANT SEX . SO WRITE ALITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT YOU AND HELP PEOPLE SEE U FOR WHO U AE .AND THAT WILL GIVE U A BETTER CHANCE TO MEET FRIENDS AND THEN MAYBE MORE WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE .
NAUGHTY DREAMS
FREAKY KITTY
We thought this was educational and should explain a lot about s - keep an open mind. Swingers are spiders. Each to their own unique ways! - he he he he funny stuff :D
real members? - - WOW DID THIS THREAD TURN FAST .
BACK TO THE FIRST POST ABOUT HER AFRAID SOMEONE IS GOING TO BREAK INTO HER HOUSE . YES IAM SURE IT CAN HAPPEN . BUT I DOUBT VERY MUCH THAT IS FOR THEMOST PART ANYONES PLANS . BUT LIKE SOMEONE ELSE SAID U TAKE THAT CHANCE EVERY TIME U LEAVE THE HOUSE . GET AN ALARM OR A BIG DOG OR LET THE PEOPLE IN YOUR AREA KNOW U ARE LEAVING AND TO PLEASE WATCH YOUR HOUSE.
I THINK I WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE WORRIED ABOUT MEETING THEM AT A CAMP PLACE FAR AWAY AND NOT KNOWING THEM .DONT U WATCH SCARY MOVIES ??????? I WOULD NEVER MEET A STRANGER IN THE WOODS .
ALOT OF PEOPLE GET TO NERVOUS ABOUT THE FIRST MEETS . SOME LIKE THE DINNER THING . BUT MOST DONT .
WE ALWAYS TELL EVERYBODY TO JUST COME TO THE CLUB AND HANG OUT . OR IF THEY HAVE KIDS THEN WE CAN MEET AND LET THE KIDS PLAY AND JUST HANG OUT AND GET TO KNOW THEM . MOST LIKE IT LIKE THAT . NO NEED FOR A SITTER . NO NEED TO DRESS UP AND HAVE TO PUT ON A SHOW FOR ANYONE . JUST TWO FAMILIES GOING OUT AND HANGING OUT AND DOING SOMETHING FUN .
AS FOR PEOPLE GIVING U THE WRONG PHONE NUMBER . THAT WOULD SHOW U THAT SOMETHING WASNT RIGHT .
AS FOR THIS SITE OR ANY OTHER SITE AND THE SYSTEMS OR PROGRAMS THAT THEY TRY TO MAKE IT SAFER . I DON T UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT .
FIRST OF ALL . TO GET AN ACCOUNT IS EASY .
TO TAKE PICS OR DO WEB CAM TO PROVE U ARE A REAL PERSON IS ONE THING . BUT THAT DOESNT MAKE THE SAFER THEN ANYBODY ELSE . WE LIVE IN A REALLY MESSED UP WORLD . AND JUST CAUSE WE SHARE THE OPEN LIFE STYLE TOG DOESNT MEAN WE CAN FORGET THAT ITS MADE UP OF REG PEOPLE .SO EVERYBODY SHOULD ALWAYS MEET IN A PUBLIC PLACE AND PLAY IT SAFE UNTILL THEY FEEL OK WITH THE NEW PERSON .AND STILL BE ON THE LOOK OUT AND BECAREFUL .
AS FOR GIVING THEM THEY ARE REAL SWINGERS SEAL . I DONT UNDERSTAND THAT ONE EITHER , THERE IS ALOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NEW TO THE LIFE STYLE . SO THAT WILL LEAVE THEM OUT AND MAKE THEM LOOK BAD AND MAKE THEM FEEL PRESSURED TO PLAY WITH SOMEONE . SO THEY DONT LOOK LIKE FAKES . AND JUST CAUSE SOMEONE IS A SWINGER AND HAS PLAYED BEFORE DOESNT MEAN THEY WILL WANT TO PLAY WITH THE PERSON WRITING THEM OR WANTING TO MEET THEM .
I THINK THE SEAL FROM A FRIEND WOULD BE OK . AND A GOOD IDEA . BUT IF PEOPLE ARE ONLY GOING TO WANT TO WRITE AND TALK WITH ONLY THOSE PEOPLE . THEN ALOT OF PEOPLE WILL MISS OUT ON THE NEW MEMBERS TO THE SITE AND THE AREA AND THE LIFE STYLE .
I DONT ASK FOR ANY KINDA OF SEAL ON ANY OF THE SITES WE ARE ON . AND I DONT LOOK FOR THEM WHEN IAM WRITING TO PEOPLE . THAT IS ALL POINTLESS TO ME .
SOMEONE THAT WAS A COUPLE WHEN THEY JOINED CAN NOW BE BROKEN UP . OR IT COULD HAVE JUST BEEN A FRIEND WITH A FRIEND GETTING THE SEAL . I DONT LOOK AT THEM AS ANY SAFER THEN ANYONE ELSE . AND IF THEY HAD A SWINGERS SEAL OR NOT MEANS NOTHING TO ME . DOESNT MEAN THEYWILL WANT TO PUT OUT TO ME . OR ME TO THEM . AND I THINK IT IS GOING TO HURT ALOT OF HOOK UP S WITH NEW MEMEBERS AND NEW BIES TO THE LIFE STYLE .
WE RUN A SWINGERS SITE . WE HAVE A TON OF PICS WITH US AND WITH FRIENDS THAT WE CAN SHOW WE ARE REAL PEOPLE AND WE DO PLAY WITH OTHERS . WE HAVE WEB CAM TO SHOW WE ARE REAL . WE ARE ON A TON OF SITES WHERE THEY CAN ALSO SEE US .
IF THEY SEEM LIKE FUN PEOPLE WE WILL INVITE THEM TO THE CLUB TO COME AND HANG OUT WITH US AND EVERYBODY ELSE . JUST CAUSE I AM A SWINGER DOESNT MEAN I WANT TO PLAY WITH ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO PLAY WITH US . SO I WANT TO GET TO KNOW THE PEOPLE AND SEE IF WE CLICK . AND NO SEAL CAN TELL ME THAT . I HAVE TO GET OUT THERE AND MEET PEOPLE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS .
I AM PROUD OF THE SITES FOR TRYING TO MAKE IT SAFER AND ALL OF THAT . BUT I THINK PEOPLE USE OR DEPEND ON THESE SEALS AND ALL OF THAT WAY TO MUCH .I THINK IT MAKES PEOPLE THINK THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE OK TO MEET AND THEY FORGET TO USE THEIR OWN JUDGEMENT ON WHEN AND HOW TO MEET THESE STRANGERS .
SITE OWNERS ARE GIVING U A PLACE TO PUT UP A PROFILE AND TRY TO MEET PEOPLE WITH WANTS AND NEEDS ALIKE . HAVING SITES LIKE THIS IS VERY HELPFUL IN THE LIFE STYLE MAKING NEW FRIENDS . BUT THERE IS NO SEAL IN THE WORLD THAT CAN TELL U TO THROW CAUTION IN THE WIND AND FEEL 100% SAFE WITH ANYBODY . SOME MIGHT FIND THEM HELPFUL . BUT PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT U NEED STILL NED TO BE VERY CAREFUL .
AND ABOUT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND ADD AND REAL NAMES AND ALL OF THAT . ANYONE CAN GET THAT AT ANY TIME . BUT BE VERY CAREFUL ON WHO U CHOOSE TO TELL IT TO . NO ONE THAT DOESNT KNOW U NEEDS TO KNOW ANY OF THAT STUFF .
THEY CAN HAVE EVERY SEAL THAT IS EVER MADE UP BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN THEY STILL ARENT CREEPY .
SO PLEASE BECAREFUL AT ALL TIMES . SEAL OR NO SEAL .
NAUGHTY DREAMS
FREAKY KITTY
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