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Moab Utah - Swingers in Moab - Awesome photo! You should put that one on your profile! We’re headed to Moab June 6-10th and bringing our mountain bikes with us. 🚴‍♀️🏜🚴‍♂️🏜

Sturgis 2009 - - When and where is the Testy Festy... have heard about it but not too sure what it is, but have heard swingers have a way of letting others know they swing. We will also be heading back through Helene on our way home....

What about the lifestyle didn't meet your expectations? - Preconceptions and disappointment. - I'm home bored, so stop here if you don't want to read a bunch of shite. lol. I think we both entered the lifestyle with some preconceived notions of what the people in the LS would be like, but that was mostly from our limited experience with being vanilla and having LS peeps try to hit on us. It just seemed creepy, desperate and gross at the time. We assumed most of the players would be super aggressive, ready to fuck anyone and have zero interest in relationships outside of sex. Our initial entry was simply to watch and be watched. We quickly learned that there are just as many wonderful people in the LS as out of it. Maybe more. There will always be the outliers, the few percentage on each end of the spectrum that are more extreme, but that happens in any population. Overall, it was a happy surprise. So that would be a negative expectation that wasn't met. As far as things we were hoping would happen or expectation that weren't met, we have very few. But we also went into the labyrinth without really expecting or assuming anything. I don't think we were naive enough to think that this segment of the population was somehow immune from the social characteristics that reveal themselves in any other social class or group. You will always have the "cool kids" the "shy people" the "jocks" the "geeks" the people who classify themselves as the "pity party" and blame the world for their problems. Those things will exist anywhere and should. Swingers are a diverse group of people with a few, maybe very few, common goals. Those goals I think are to meet others with social deviancy and those interested in expanding their sexual experiences or simply to meet new friends. Swinging, in itself, doesn't solidify your beliefs in anything else (politics, food preferences, choice of travel location, or even how or what you are looking for as swingers). I think that is where expectations can fail. If a person goes into a situation thinking, "I/we think "x" so everyone else must think "x" as well", they are bound to be disappointed. I've said this a lot of times, the lifestyle is not black and white. Life isn't black and white. There will be frustrations around every turn if you allow yourself to be duped into thinking your way of thinking is more than just your viewpoint, that it is universal to everyone. I see people complaining of flakes, people who meet once then run away, etc. That's how they roll. That's their truth. It's what they are comfortable with or wanting and who am I to judge. That being said, I don't have to associate with them and hopefully learn how to avoid that situation or become more efficient at finding people with similar interests. The lifestyle is work. Sometimes a lot of work. I think it's foolish to think that it should be easy to find 4 people who all jive. Think about how many people you have dated before settling on the right one for you. And to assume that somehow changes in the lifestyle and that after chatting on kik for a few weeks then meeting over drinks will somehow magically connect you. Ugh. Sometimes it happens. Sometimes not. But I wouldn't expect it. For others, the thought of any connection past the one-nighter is absurd. Why would you want to make friends with your fuck-buddies? It may be too risky and cause too many emotions. Point is, we are all different and that is what makes the journey so beautiful. And, just a note about flakes, since it is a recurrent theme. Yes, maybe there are more flakes in the lifestyle, but I'm guessing it's specifically related to the nature of the LS. Swinging for some can be very intimidating and frightening. Sometimes the chase is much more fun than the fucking. Not excusing them that do flake, it seems a problem for sure, but I think I understand, at least in part, why it happens so much. There is so much social pressure not to be in the lifestyle and most were brought up without it being the normal way to live. So society is telling us we are wrong, gross, deviant, etc. Add to that the fear of actually getting naked and fucking someone else and it can cause a lot of anxiety in some. When we first started we were petrified to even go the parties thinking it was going to be a fuck/rape fest. lol. Turned out we were wrong but it was a learning process. Lastly, if you are already treading carefully and the couple/person you are supposed to be meeting gives off any bad vibes, maybe flaking is best. It's hard not to hurt someone's feelings and honesty isn't always what happens. I know we have been honest with couples and it turned into a shit-show. Why don't you like us? If you only meet us and give us a chance we can prove we are wonderful. Other's like us, why don't you. It's hard to be honest at times about why there isn't a connection. May flaking be a way to spare feelings? I don't know. There are probably a plethora (Hefe, do you know what a plethora is?)of reasons people flake and some of those my be that they are just douches. But likely there are other people that aren't and are just trying to get out of a situation they are unfamiliar with. Avoid the douches but maybe give those others a second chance. Evil: always good topics you bring to the table. So you think because people like sex they should be good at it? I know a lot of people who love food but suck at cooking. haha. Maybe having too many options on the table can also make people lazy. I don't have to try hard if I know tomorrow is another partner. To some it's the quantity and not the quality. But I can see why the expectation would be there. All in all we really have no complaints. It's been a fascination journey. Some ups, some downs, but always and adventure. We will keep our expectations low, both of ourselves and those around us. Less disappointment that way. I'm going back to sitting in my underwear, drinking a beer and watching TV. Zero expectations. haha. :) Mr. SRO

West Jordan Utah???? - - West Jor DEN of Eniquity. I have always wondered how many swingers I am seeing at Target and Walmart on Sundays.

Being pregnant in the lifestyle - - We would have to agree pregnant woman are the most sexiest. Unfortuantly around us everyone takes a break from the lifestyle durring this time. This is more then likely why we have an attraction also to woman that have meat on then. Woman seem tobe sexier with meat on them instead of the small framed woman. Please dont get us wrong we like all shapes and sizes but just love full figured woman.. People please always practice safe sex, T got fixed 9 years ago and even with our old girlfriend that we had for a year he still practiced safe sex. It all really hit home for alot of people here in Idaho THis summer when in a swingers group we where memebers they had an out break of clamidia(may not be spelled right) it was scary because with B being bisexual she could have got it easy enough. so remember this if you use your toys on another woman cover them with condoms also. Safety first.. T & B

Body Size - - [quote=DRAR09]So I'm unfortunately a chubby girl, but I'm working on it. Hopefully this doesn't sound shallow because eveyone has a type they're attracted to, but are most average men in the lifestyle looking for girls of a smaller body type? Are us bigger women disregarded just by a picture or headline before anyone tries to get to know us? This isn't meant to be confrontational, but does a woman's personality matter more or less than her body?[/quote] It depends on the man, of course. Some men do value personality over body type and some definitely value body type over personality. It's the same for women too. In fact, on average, we've met more women who are extremely picky about body type, etc. than men. And body type isn't the only thing that can be a deal breaker for people. Age is also a line in the sand for many swingers. For others, things like smoking or drug use can be big factors in choosing play partners. And there are MANY quite minor factors that people use to weed out people they may not want to play with. I think it's probably because swinging is more or less a fantasy activity and people are looking for a certain type that hits most or at least some of their checkmarks for a fantasy partner.Those may be body type, hair color, ethnicity, age, or one of many other criteria. The really interesting part, to me, is how people are often FAR more forgiving of certain physical characteristics in their own partner than they are in someone they want to have sex with. Yet they often get upset when other people also have that same attitude. I do think, though, that people kind of get in their own way a little bit and in their search for the perfect swing playmate often overlook someone who is on many levels a good or even great match but not a perfect one. I think they're probably missing out on a lot of fun and a lot of good sex.

Weird sex laws. - Oral sex is bad but fucking a corpse not so much. - [quote=EVILDOERS]You have to admit, oral sex IS kinda creepy. But I'm willing to bet it's Obama's (or Holder's) fault. Or those damned libs. Or those damned conservatives. Or those damned swingers, they're RUINING the USofA! Or maybe it's rap music or gay marriage. Or possibly a direct result of Dancing With The Stars. [em]Emo_62[/em] [/quote] Heck if the Republicans had their way.. SWINGING would be illegal. Everybody knows Bill and Hill were swingers... heck leave the DEMS alone already

What really defines a TRUE swinger? - - [quote=INVITESOME]We never have viewed single males as swingers. To to us and most of our swinging couple friends single males are cheap sex toys you carefully pick from, use them on rare occasions and then return them and forget them. Sounds harsh but the great thing is that is exactly what the majority of single males that we have all met like. We have only met a couple single males out of hundreds that have broken the mold and surprised us. [/quote] For the record at least our experience we have met far more couples where one or the other of them is just plain weird than singles. In fact we almost prefer singles over couples for that reason. Either way life is too short for bashing fellow Lifestylers. People should take their bad attitudes & imagined desirability somewhere else!

Swinger Friendly Businesses - Business or services friendly to swingers - i am an electrician my self and do some side work on the side i am a journeyman electrician have been in the trade for 13 years contact me an i will see what i can do

Nudist City in France - Cap d'Agde, France - entire nude city, and very swinger friendly - My wife and I just returned from a trip to France. We stayed for several days at Cap d'Agde, in the south of France, on the French Riviera. The whole city is nudist, and very swinger friendly. The population of the city swells to 40,000 during the summer months. There is controlled access into the city (10 euros/day), and you never need to leave the city. It has grocery stores, lots of shopping, a pharmacy, bank, bakery (we bought fresh bagettes every day), dozens of restaurants, and its own Mediterranean beach (which is mandatory nude-they have lifeguards who tell you to take your clothes off if they find you wearing anything). There are thousands of hotel rooms, villas, condos, mobile homes, in which to stay. The city is very swinger friendly. There are at least 5 swingers clubs that are open at night, and two hotels of 65 rooms each that are couples/swingers only. My wife and I had sex by the pool every morning, while lying on our lounge chairs under beach umbrellas, which were set up by the best looking French pool boy you have ever met. I was fucking my wife while asking him to go get us a couple more drinks! We met couples from all over the world, of all ages. One of the really fun swinger things we did every day was to go to the foam party, or as they call it in French, the mousse party. It is hosted from 2-7 pm every afternoon by one of the swingers clubs, and is couples only. You check all your clothes at the door, because nudity is mandatory. The venue is outdoors, but the whole area (which can accommodate 200 people or more) is walled off from the rest of the city. Inside there are lots of outdoor beds, couches, chairs, a big pool, outdoor showers, free condom and hand sanitizer dispensers, and two bars. But the funnest part is the foam area. It is open to the sky on the top, with walls on 3 sides. At the top is a foam dispenser that runs every 5 minutes or so, and partially fills the area with foam. If you stand under the foam machine, the foam is over your head, but the further away you move from the foam machine, the foam level drops to 2 to 4 feet high, depending on where you stand. The foam mixture doesn't hurt your eyes, and is quite slippery. So you just walk into the foam and start rubbing to the music. If you like someone, you can invite them out to one of the beds, shower off, and play. Then shower again and wade back into the foam. There were probably 75-100 people at a time in the foam room, including one pretty girl in a wheelchair who came every day. It was a blast! We're going back next summer, for 7-10 days this time. If you want to know anything more about it, let us know. L&P