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We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - QUEENOFCRUNKXXX, Your mistake was that you assumed that everyone was at the same level as you. That's not a stab, but an observation. One of the first mistakes we all make is assuming that because we are all "swingers", we are all seasoned veterans of the lifestyle and have ironed out all the wrinkles in our relationships as swingers. It is unrealistic to expect everyone to be on the same page, all the time. I agree with you in that we should all strive to be open and communicate everything we can, to our significant other and the other couple, so that everyone knows where everyone stands with regard to swinger interaction. Does this always happen? No. My advice is don't be discouraged. All you can do is try again or move on. Everyone is guilty of "DRAMA", including you and me, for that matter. More often than not, those that say "Drama Free" are those that are the biggest perpetrators and perpetuators of it. Just my opinion of course. Better luck next time. -D-

ogden meet and great - - Yes club wet. I wasn't going to say swingers convention or put up a sign just a get together.

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - I absolutely LOVE DVP. Regular DP is not an option considering my ass would would declare mutiny but the feel of 2 rock hard cocks in my vagina is just one of those OH MY GOD feelings that makes me tingle for hours. But if you aren't secure enough to cross swords then you prolly wouldn't be very good at giving her pleasure while it's happening. I really really really need to do it again and SOON. Ironically....I won't have kids tonight. Who wants to cooperate? ;) xox Tammy

The vent! - Judgements, I'm so tired of them. - In the recent years I have changed, morphed even, into the person I am today. A swinger. Eccentric, confidant, secure, uninhibited, with a puissant sexuality. What I consider "out of the box!" Open, understanding, diverse. Only within the last year have we dared to call ourselves "swingers" we decided together to change our lifestyle, to change our rules, to change our minds about how we regard each other as individuals. What I have noticed as I have taken this quest into being a swinger, is how the people in and around my life are noticing this change, and reacting with judgements. They live by different rules than I do, they choose to, and yet they still judge. Are these people just unhappy with themselves? Are they jealous? Why are they concerned? I have failed to understand this. Why do they spew hate at me?(I call it emotional vomit) Shouldn't they be happy for me? If these people are already having averse feelings about me and/or my behavior, how will they react to find out we are swingers? I now know why some of swingers only associate with other swingers. To bad for us there are few to be found down here in the south. :( "If you judge people, you have no time to love them."-Mother Theresa Thanks for letting me vent, here's to living out of the box. ~Mrs~

Single male in this lifestyle.. - I have questions for couples and single females. - [quote=BMSHELL][quote]why is it that girls and couples look for girls more than guys?[/quote] So you're asking why do swingers prefer MFF instead of MMF? Because most women in the life-style are bi-sexual to varying degrees, and most men are not. Not even a little bit. Thus, MFF becomes the "third wheel" combination that most swinger couples can enjoy together. (Versus MMF, which is really more just about pleasing the female). Why is is to hard for a single-male to find a couple to play with? Well, see above.. most couples don't want MMF... and those that DO want MMF have about 10,000 of you to choose from. Supply and demand. This isn't that complex. [/quote] True and yet we would guess that on any given week that there are more swinger couples enjoying MFM scenarios than there are swinger couples enjoying FMF or FFM scenarios for the very same reason. Availability. With that said we would guess that a much higher percentage of single swinger women have the opportunity for a FMF or FFM on any given week because of availability. Laws of supply and demand. More single women need to become swingers.......Ladies we want you!!

can we swing and still not be in sin ? - - mrs. Classy ???.lol. are you frightened that you can't swing anymore ? this post is for REAL CLASSY SWINGERS , real poeple ,real ideas , seriously if you can't handle it emotionally skip it ! don't show us all how stupid and uneducated you are and lack basic knowledge of the daily routines of normal people that live anywhere in the usa .

Facebook and the lifestyle - Can Facebook be TMI with the lifestyle? - Ms. Evil and I were talking this morning about the the lifestyle in the age of Facebook. She mentioned that she kind of feels like there is the possibility of learning TOO much about your lifestyle friends when you're also on their Facebook feed. Especially in the hyperpolarized world we live in right now she thinks that maybe knowing too much about other swingers can make it harder to connect sexually with them. In fact, more than once, I've walked into the bedroom to find her on her laptop reading something a swinger friend has posted on Facebook with steam coming out of her ears (yeah we made an appt. with an ENT to get that checked out). I think it's gotten so bad at times that she's totally lost her 'lady wood' for a few of our lifestyle friends. I'm not really on Facebook so it hasn't affected me (other than her maybe not being as excited about possibly hooking up with some couples because they are so adamant in their views and express them so vigorously on Facebook). Just wondering what everyone thinks. Does Facebook (and learning all the dirty details about other couples) affect how you start to think about them? Ever not wanted to hook up with someone once you realized how different your viewpoints were or when they maybe posted some things on social media that you found offensive?

Desire - hot vaca!! - [quote=TURBOLOVER]We are looking at doing the MSC DIVINA April 2016 - Eastern Caribbean Full Ship Charter, anyone been on one of these and can you share you thoughts, it looks awesome? ?? Thank you very much [/quote] We will probably be doing BOTH of the major upcoming cruises.. the one in November (Bliss Cruise) and the one in April (Couples Cruise). I really don't understand why people go to the resorts when the cruises are SO MUCH better across the board, and they're cheaper, too... Speaking strictly in the context of swingers cruise versus swingers resort: -----[ Swingers Cruise Pros:]-------- - Lower Price (compared to resorts, it's a lot cheaper overall, especially when you factor in travel costs) - Easier and cheaper to get to. You generally arrive/depart out of Florida (Versus traveling for 15+ hours to get to Jamaica or something). - TONS of activities to do. Non-Stop entertainment on the ship and on the excursions. (Not a lot going on at the resorts.. one or two basic activities per day is all). - Many of the excursions are takeovers as well, so you can be naked if you want during adventure-time. (Many of the resorts are topless-only -- and if you want to do "excursions" you're mixed with the vanillas, and all vanilla rules apply). - You can be completely naked on most parts of the ship, if you want. - Dedicated play-rooms. Lots of them. (Many resorts only have one smaller area dedicated for play... which makes sense... generally only 200 to 250 people at a resort at any given time). - MASSIVE crowd. 3,500+ people on a single ship. You'll never possibly get to know even 5% of the people on the ship. (In other words, you have a huge pool of people to choose from to find people you like!!). - Better / more types of food to choose from. Better alcohol choices. - Adult-themed vegas-quality shows every single night... followed by swinger-oriented after-parties. - Higher-end facilities and nicer overall atmosphere. (Cruise-ships are equivalent to a 4-star or even 5-star hotel. swingers resorts are usually 2-star..... 3-star at best.. most are pretty worn down and kind of gross). -----[ Resort Pros:]-------- - Smaller, more intimate setting. You'll get to know everyone at the resort at the time you are there. - Much more laid back. If all you want to do is lounge by the pool all day, every day, it's for you. - You can leave the resort any time you want and venture into town. - Typically you have better access to phones, internet, TV, etc. - Rooms at the resorts are bigger (although they are NOT nicer). If you look at the activity list on a typical resort, you'll find there's only one thing going on at any given time. Most people just lounge by the pool all day, every day -- and then they go to club-style events at night. The cruise is totally different... At any given time, you can choose from 3 or 4 different activities (or just lounge by the pool)... and you can still do the club-style stuff at night IF YOU WANT.. (but there's usually other alternatives to pick from). Honestly, the ONLY major downside to the cruise compared to the resorts is that they don't do the swingers takeover cruises very often. (Once or twice a year is all you've got to pick from). So if you're picky about WHEN you go... the resort is probably your only bet. If you're flexible, don't give it a second thought... the swingers cruise is where it's at. =)

Whats concidered BBW? - - As swingers maybe we would like to think that the only reason monogamy became so prevalent and popular in western society is because religions, governments and a male dominance ploy all worked together as a mean to achieve power and control etc., etc., and for that reason all other forms of sexuality have been subject to persecution. I think there is a valid argument and facts to support the theory that the enforcement of monogamy is somewhat conspiratorial and not all based on the idea that it is the ultimate good or best relationship. However, perhaps, it is, socially also somewhat advantageous, in that it is so much easier to be polite. We all work and socialize with people that we hold in high esteem that we do not find sexually attractive. In a monogamous world where sex is usually not on the table for consideration, in interpersonal relations, the offense of rejecting and the pain of rejection are avoided. I think that removing sex from consideration in so many social interactions has perhaps, provided for some level of peace and has, perhaps, promoted the general welfare. So to be a swinger, and happy, do we, perhaps, have to be a bit more enlightened than the average Joe or Jane? Because sex drive originates from our primitive brain, which is not rational, we do not have absolute control over what we find sexy. So what we reject and what we accept are somewhat out of our control. Perhaps, all we should expect from our higher brain function is all the added color and dimensions to sex we can oh so enjoy. That is a lot and that is what makes the primitive urges so much more fun for us, I would speculate, than for any other species. So what 99.999999995 of humanity share is a primitive urge for sex. Preference is subject to and more fully experienced by our unique higher brain function and all the abstracts of preference. Never-the-less, we do not seem to be able to ever completely escape a certain level of primitive hard wiring and perhaps a certain level of social conditioning too. We all want to be accepted and fit. Devotees of the joys of BBW, given the chance will fulfill all their primitive needs in a sea of wonderful expansive abstractions that will color the experience and make it somewhat sacred. Same goes for most any other preference save those that ignore the needs, wants and safety of their partner. Hence those hard wired to be gay, can and should and I hope do swim in a sea of gay fulfillment. Those that are hard wired heterosexual can and I hope do, swim in a sea of heterosexual fulfillment and those bisexual will swim in their own sea and so it goes for those that yearn to swim in the sea of BBW or any other preference. To be an enlightened and a totally happy citizen of the swing community, perhaps, we should remember that albeit the water is just dandy in the sea in the which we choose to swim that the water is just as dandy in the pools we are not predisposed to enjoy. If someone, decides, that they really want to swim in a different pool, well that is their preference and if being comfortable in the pool requires they make a few changes, then, perhaps, the best thing we can do is wish them well and support their decision. Choosing to change is after all a preference we all, should perhaps, respect and support.