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How did you start the lifestyle? - - I was invited to be in a couple of amateur porn movies back in the 80's. It was after the first gang-bang scene that the cameraman gave me an issue of a swingers magazine. Did the whole thing with the PO box and snailmail. Which wasnt easy, even if you live and worked close to home. I was driving over the road, so meeting other swingers was almost impossible. Eventually the internet came along and sites like SDC, Fantasyswingers and Swingular made contacting people so much easier.
Swingers now officially a high risk group for STDs and STIs - Do your own research - Perhaps more accurately, you were "STD (actually STI is a more current and descriptive term) free" at that moment you were tested (many STI's have various incubation periods before they are seriologically detectable-HIV can take up to 6 months). Additionally many STI's (most strains of HPV) there is currently no test for. So you are STI free for only those STI's that were tested for in your panel. There are MANY intections that can be spread sexually that one wouldn't normally consider an STD. Sorry, don't mean to shit in your Cheerios but far too many of us have a severe case of cognitive dissonance when it comes to STI's in the lifestyle. Swinging (and life, as pointed out by CHETDO) is a risk. You can minimize the risk somewhat by adopting certain protocols and behaviors but never decrease it to zero as long as you continue to swing. If you swing you must accept that you are engaging in risky behavior and be okay with that. We've been around the scene actively and inactivley for a long time and have seen and heard it all as far as those who would delude themselves that taking any of the above actions (other than monogamy) would make them safe from STI's. The sad truth is that MOST of us (if not all) have been exposed to and likely carry some form of STI already. If this were not the case they would offer Gardisil to adults. So that horse has likely already left the barn, so to speak. It's a little like riding a motorcycle. If you don't want to be involved in a motorcycle accident, don't ride. If you don't want an STI don't swing. Helmets (condoms) can help but some asshole can still run over you. [em]Emo_67[/em]
Chinese Swingers in Trouble - - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/world/asia/21china.html?hp
Can bieng Mormon (LDS) and a Swinger co-exist? - - If Catholics can have pedophile priests, Muslims have sexist wife beating terrorists and Baptists racist incestious siblings, then The LDS Church can have swingers. Why not; everyone outside the LDS Church is misled about the mormons all being polygamists anyway. I don't think others' perceptions will change much if you lead a double-life. People are kinda dense that way. <-*Joke* HAHAHA... No... well ahem..
Ultimately, it only matters what you think and feel to be good for you. If you live life for others, then you will not have lived at all. Absorb your environment and mold yourself in a manner that is consistent with your belief system, morals and happiness. You know your own heart and what's right for you.
We believe as long as all human parties are of consenting age and have given consent, nothing is wrong for you sexually. We'll do what the hell we want with our bodies. As I (Don) am not religious in anyway, I don't want to have anything to do with organized religion and all their hypocrisies. This is our stance. Take it for what you will.
-TR-
P.S. If I hurt your religious feelings.... Remember forgiveness :-)
Why are there so many swingers from Utah? - - Well I think that all of the bases have been covered. Swingular is run out of Utah, it's conservative, we have built up tenstion, the religion... the fact of the matter is WE (As A Couple) are not sure why Swingular is so populated with Utahns. We aren't sure if we even really care. All we do know is that we're loving this site and we thank GOD that there are so many Utahns, because if there wasn't, we'd be S. O. L. We're a happy couple of newbies here. :D
D & F
Have you seen... - - [quote=EVILDOERS]Okay I'm looking at her eyes...I'm looking at her eyes...what am I looking for? Help a brutha out here.
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They are very nice. It's the Irish in us and she is pretty classic or classical pretty, in a Irish way. Just that simple. We were and are romantics more than swingers, but we enjoy both, and they sometimes blend well with the right sort of people.
single males - - Thank you for opening the topic. I hope that it will be used shed some insight and not just complain.
In a place like Habits there are vanilla singles that have no clue that swingers congregate there. So there will naturally be more problem in that environment than a private party.
At a house party the only people that should be there are those that are invited by the host and hostess. Every one of the guests should have known the rules or etiquette of this lifestyle. If you had complaints, they should have been addressed last night with the hosts. Evidently the balance you were looking for was not there.
Sadly it is difficult for most singles to figure out how to talk to a swinging couple. There are no schools or training centers to teach this. As a single male, conversation at a vanilla party with a couple is much easier. Most often the men and women separate and we talk with one or the other without expectations on either side. Sometimes conversation is just conversation.
I find that making friends is generally more difficult in this lifestyle because of the sexual expectations of many. I think that you will find a number of the single men, after getting the cold shoulder from many husbands, find it easier to attempt to talk to the women because they lack the skills to talk with both. It is a mistake but it is also part of the learning process.
There is no excuse for rude behavior on the part of the single male but neither is there an excuse for the typical married male attitude. Single males are always and have always been a pariah and dam few couples want them at any party. I came into this lifestyle as a single male looking to make male friends to hang with that would help me understand the rules. I found most of the males were cold and suspicious and difficult to talk with.
I was not looking for women to play with nearly as much as I was looking for a girlfriend that was already in the lifestyle. But I am sure that as far as most were concerned all I wanted to find was their wife
What is up with Utah?! - Swingers in Utah and nowhere else? - Utah still remains the proverbial Mecca of swinging (at least of the places we have traveled/lived); we can't wait to come back!
In fact, I think we shall hit the road tonight.... :)
J&L
announcing a new group - for all single ladies ~ UNICORNS - It's not going to work. Single women on here, or unicorns, get the whole stigma of being the most wanted of the swingers. But when it comes down to it, we get the shafted usually. All the couples want in so they can see what is said or see who the players are.
Hey, Fucktards! - Single Men - Funny shit !!!!! They will never learn and there are more single males then ever on this site . I mean seriously cant these guys get a date to swing with . Most of them need to get it through their heads that just because our wives are swingers does not mean they are easy or some lame dick pic is going to get you sex . This site needs to be cleaned up ..............
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