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Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - I would like to point out one thing, when you are a single male you and you are straight and you want a couple then you bring nothing to table. You have nothing to offer the husband of the couple aside from a show but you are asking the man of the couple to share his wife with you with nothing more then a thank you in exchange, in most cases single men have a gf or wife but simply do not want to risk sharing them because they are afraid of losing them, having them leave or know thats what you want to start doing or will be trying to do or they do not want to take the effort and risk and time to get their partner involved. There is also the point that alot of people have fetish's but I do not know alot of white couples that are interested in black men, not every woman like a cock over 8" either, there are some but we have not met very many and it seems to be a very select group and type of swinger. We have had single men in the past but those single men had the highest respect for our relationship, they also did not get anything right away and had to show their merit as a sincere person that wanted friendship but no emotional attachment. In this day and age of disease we also are very selective with the people we swing with for obvious reasons. As a final note, if and when you find a female partner and she lives with you in a commited relationship if you are already not in one will you be willing to share her with another man with nothing in return? Ill be willing to bet like most couples you will seek only a single female to join you in a threeway.

YOLO Cruise April 26 2009 - swingers cruise - Hi all U "cruzers" out there...!!! Are U ready to PARTY, we are... as usual. Looking forward to gettin with old friends & new "playmates"... we'll be at Caliente the weekend the ship leaves, so if your in the area, Saturday night is a "Bon Voyage" party at Caliente, Wanna Cum...!!! Hugz, Bob & Christa

Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - Count us in please! KIK notacrowd

Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - CRAZYFOXTCU - you're turning me on. Am I immoral to feel that way? (I'm holding up my sarcasm card...) K.

Partners with hall Passes - - [quote=HAMMER_AND_FQ]Bummer you haven't found single guys worthwhile. (This is the Mrs. by the way.) I guess we have just been lucky in that department. So many people bash single guys and I just don't understand why. We play separate more and more often. We have a harder time finding single women or women with hall passes. Maybe because I am the picky one :) I mean if I am going to share my incredibly sexy and amazing man she better be worth my night alone watching the kids! So ladies, please let me know if you're game to play. All you need to do is read our profile to see what "worth it" would mean to us. I also find it amusing how so many swingers claim to be open minded then are incredibly judgmental of people who choose to play separate. What is up with that? It isn't always easy finding couples where all sides are attracted and ready to get naked. [/quote] As a single male, I approve of this message! LOL But, in all seriousness, I think the discussion just boils down the the OP having a challenge finding the right SM that fits with their own personal interests and tastes, along with the stamina issue. I genuinely don't see an issue with having your own tastes and preferences as we're all human and all have the different things that attract you (or the couple as a whole) to someone else. My two cents is what WHITECOCOCPL shared above ... apply your own experience, your own attractions, and good referrals and start there, and don't be shy to test the waters with those you find attractive, and hope the whole package (pun intended) is as good as hoped!

Are you still interested! - Dynamics amoung swingers - Two comments I am going to try to keep short. First.. there are the couples we see somewhat regularly, we enjoy the more intimate moments with them, but we need to take a break every so often and just be friends. We are glad they understand that. When we are ready to get back into the bedsheets with them, its much more meaningful and fun. We respect them when they feel the need to become vertical friends for a while and not horizontal. So its not always a loss of interest, just a temporary change of scenery or personal events in our life... (Then again, some people do have issues that change their attitude towards lifestyles altogether.. and you have to respect their needs when they become just vanilla). Second. Old topic, but similar in nature to this string. Whatever happened to plain old honesty? Its a frustrating experiences to chat over a period of time, feel a friendship is developing, finally meet and spend a great eveing together... talk about getting together again soon only to be continually stood up or given a rash of excuses. I think everyone understands that finding a good match with another couple comes with several disappointments. Its so much easier to accept when you are told straight out that its not going to work out, rather than being lead on and on with the premise that there is something developing. Common courtesy goes along way and commands respect. Even after a relationship that may have developed for extended periods of time, why not be truthful and let the other party know when the interest is dying or gone? Or when its just a social relationship you are comfortable with.. why not be honest? There are some great friendships that can be made here that dont require sex. It happens to all of us.. think about how you want to be treated when you are on the recieving end. HUGS... Cyn, (and him)

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - We are very interested in being a part of this group, Please hit us up!! We are Travis and Char

Long Weekend - Just wondering what people have planned - [quote=SIMPLEPLEASURES]anyone ever go to Fantasy Swingers Club in vegas. also the the exchange ever get set up there. [/quote] If you hear anything good or bad please let us know. We plan on attending the last week in July.

Any swingers advise for Spain? - Swing clubs in Madrid - We will be in Madrid, Spain and Marrakech, Morocco for 2 weeks starting 12/3, we know Morocco is dead but wondered if anyone who's been to Madrid could point us in the right direction? We speak Spanish, so language not a barrier. A and L

Am I hot or not.... - - :s Another SM looking for attention. What is this site coming to? I have not had a problem with the overly generous tolerance of SMs on this site, but lately it seems like SMs are getting out of control. If you have ever been to a nice swinger club in Florida, you will see the difference between Friday (SMs welcome) and Saturday nights (couples only). The reason: the SM "Towel Sharks" circle around the play areas looking to watch couples and maybe even get some for themselves. Sometimes the SMs get so aggressive with the couples, it often creates conflicts and drives couples away. On this site we are all supposed to be nice to the SMs and not bash them. I understand the need to be civil and respectful to everybody. I also know many of the couples here enjoy hooking up with SMs (we are guilty of that multiple times ourselves). Of course, many SMs are nice guys who lay low and don't cause problems. Having said that... This post, the Mr. "Save-A-Life" post, and all the other stupid SM "Look at ME" posts, are really screwing this site up. In our book (and probably the majority of other reasonable people's opinions) SWINGERS are "couples" looking for other "couples". Sure swinger couples often look for a single to join, but its usually a female (highly prized) and not a male (over supply). SMs are not swingers. They are looking for some poontang and all too often they assume that swingers have loose women to share with them. Come on guys... get your own girl and THEN join the party. Hanging around here, perving on pics, and hoping for some strange, does not make you a SWINGER! With an over-supply of SMs, they have to resort to aggressive self-promotion in order to get noticed. This silly thread here is another example of that. Come on people. Its time to stop "feeding the cats".