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Friend collectors or swingers - - It’s perhaps a cognitive behavioral issue? Not just in the lifestyle, but in general, people sometimes, often, always, depending on the person will think their emotional responses are logic based, or pure logic. How we feel isn’t how it is. Still, we can’t escape our emotions. When we have a mismatch in emotions, more often than not, it’s not a black and white whose right and whose wrong scenario. That’s our experience. We bungled that in past presents, but in the now a few miscommunications, in retrospect we’re valuable in their own way. It seems to us that people who understand that are perhaps more apt to embrace, acknowledge and enjoy their emotions, without harboring deep resentments over all the mismatching of emotions, they will encounter in the lifestyle and life in general.

Observations from the other side of the room - Some unsolicited advice - [quote=EVILDOERS]All good advice. You should give seminars to the GAZILLIONS of single males who think female swingers are nymphomaniac, wanton sluts who will fuck anyone, any time, anywhere and that their husbands/partners are pathetic, impotent cucks who don't know how to please their partners and need a "real" man to satisfy their wives/girlfriends. You could make BANK teaching the utterly clueless how to act like a gentleman and do a service to the lifestyle by helping to weed out the twatwaffles who have no business even ATTEMPTING to enter a lifestyle they know nothing about and should leave immediately![/quote] This. We dont want to resort to blocking single male messages but lately its getting to that point. I feel after CL closed its doors, a lot more SMs turned up here unfamiliar with the community.

Hotel Check In - - [quote=THE_RED_REVIEW]Anyone who works in a hotel for more than a few months will see some pretty freaky shit. Swingers are probably kind of mild compared to some of the things that they encounter.[/quote] I was the night time financial auditor at the U of U hotel for a few years and saw some interesting things. If it were at the Motel 6 instead of at the U, I'm sure it would be even more interesting. The security guard was some old guy that couldn't do shit so often the desk staff would ask me and the janitor to assist. I didn't mind the people coming in for a quick fuck as they were hardly ever a problem. It was the drunken party frat kids or convention attendees that caused the problems. [quote=SUGARSANDSPICE] ... Hell, I would ask for a quantity discount and have them get to know me by name. [/quote] Haha! I did do that for a few people I got to know well. Often I would charge them for a small room but give them a suite. [quote=INVITESOME]Tip the front desk person $20 and they will give you late check out and tell the other guests to deal with the noise. Money talks. [/quote] Agreed. Treat them and the hotel right and they won't care. If someone complains, I would just say we will ask them to be quiet but I hardly ever would. Only a couple of times I would have to do it. I even had a 'system' with the regulars I mentioned. If they were making noise, I would just call their room and let the phone ring once and hang up. They knew what was up. [quote=INVITESOME]Fuck the hotel staff.[/quote] That is always a good option. It always made might night better to be invited.

How many? - - Well, Me the Mr. would have been dead before 25. Back in the good old days anything that could be caught was easily cured with an antibiotic or at least so we thought. So from the time we crazy kids were in our late teens it was not uncommon to have sex with 7 or 8 different people in a year as part of dating. Most of us were probably just lucky. Never became a baby daddy thanks to birth control and I never contracted anything. So I would have been dead a long time ago. At 26 I got married and we have been together over 30 years. Mrs. Delicious was a sexy 5'11" 19 year old goddess and a virgin with a smoking hot 36D-23-36 build with deep blue eyes and a smile and voice of a siren. She is still smoking hot in her older version of herself. We were both a bit more conservative because I had gone so far off in the outskirts of normal in my youth and as a musician that I had bounced back the other direction and she was from a conservative background. We raised a family and did all the things parents should do to enrich their children's educational experience and to promote growth etc., so we really would not have the time or the place to do much swinging. After 23 or 24 years of monogamy, which we do not regret and enjoyed, and with the kids all either adults or almost adults we decided to attend a few swingers meet and greets and one thing leads to another and so now after a some years of swinging I would be dead again after my resurrection from monogamy and Mrs. Delicious would be dead as well and frankly more dead than me. She has been adept at playing catch up ball or should I say catch up balling and being bisexual has a more diverse rage of sexual experiences than her husband. I would be dead from the female sexual experience whereas she would be dead from the male sexual experience and really, really drunk if not dead from the female sexual experience too.

Preferences? - - AHHH.NO! DON that is not what I am refering to..anyone who thinks eating Human or any other bodily waste IS EROTIC is very MUCH DISTURBED..that is for DrPhil to handle.I mean IF you have these THINGS that YOU need TO GET OFF..THEN when those THINGS become nonexsistent anymore to you..ie-LOOKS...HAIR...PENIS or whatever then do you just HANG IT UP because you ARENT PHYSICALLY attracted to ANYONE??I think there are ALOT of SO-called SWINGERS who are nothing more than self centered people.There is a movie that came out in the 70's called SWINGERS it dealt alot with the differnt personal VIEWS of everyone in the movie.As for me I am an equal oppurtunity swinger..TO exclude anyone..just becaue your dick dosent get hard at the site of them is purely ludicrous..because that is the whole basis of marriage to be married to that ONE person that DOES everthing for you..so why would you Wife-Swap..Swing or participate in ANY extra marital activities?At one time or another EVERYONE thinks about someone or something else besides their own mate..NOW that dosent mean that you love or desire your mate ANY LESS..We all have little nuances that our mates dont have..so just to say that I HAVE to be attracted to someone JUST to have sex ...I dont know sounds sort of suspect to me of something else involved ..THATS just MY opion...Bye KattNJohn

Info for Noobs - - [quote=DISCREETCPL]Sameroom, We are new to LS and are still a work in progress with profile, pics, communication, and the decision to get out and meet new peeps. Thank you very much for posting the info and tips. One thing that makes us comfortable is when others post reviews about others that we are looking up. It would be great for the Swingular LS community to expose those flakes and creepsters for who they are in advance for the noobs. It would be great to contact someone like yourself to "pricecheck" a couple, or person before waisting everyone's time. Or even worst, having a night filled of drama. We are a UT County couple and would love to weed out the bullshit way before we step out to play. Maybe we can create a never ending thread and list all the good experience couples and or singles as to help those noobs in search of a safe and drama free situation????????????? If a couple or single doesn't make the list then, we can assume no one has spent time with yet or there were some other reason. Let me know what you think???[/quote] The only problem is that in swinging no matter how much you vet a person or couple there is always, unfortunately, the potential for drama...or worse. When you mix potent emotions with often late hours and a little alcohol, even a normally cool, rational, fun person can turn into swingerzilla. I like the concept of your idea but putting it into practice would be, imho, hit and miss at best. We knew a couple a number of years ago that were REALLY cool, fun people...very mellow. One night before a party they got into an argument over some silly thing and carried that negative energy with them to the party. The alcohol started flowing and the guy had a couple of drinks too many and flipped out (these were seasoned swingers btw, not noobs) when his wife started kissing and groping another guy at the party.

Why are single guys being band from all the upcoming parties? - Did some clown out there mess it up for all single males? - First off, let me introduce ourselves, My name is Dan and My darker half is Tasha, one hot chocolate martini :) We have yet to make it out to many parties, as a couple but did manage to do so the other night with tbl and had a blast. Great people, relaxed, no "you gotta go home with me because I showed up" complexes were evident. Having been on both sides of the fence, I actually wrote an article a few years ago called "being swingle", kind of ironic? no? lol. Playing as a single male comes down to at least for me at the time to enjoying threesomes, group, and the stress free situation of "dating". It was easier to hang out with couples who were friends, but in reality, the third wheel complex eventually sets in. There is an etiquette to it. Always add to the party, never look to "loot it", or "steal the cookie" as Tasha puts it. Kinda like showing up at your friends house when moms got food cooking, you know your gonna eat, but don't dare reach for the big piece of chicken lmao. Unfortunately, like all of us at some point in their lives there was that one time at band camp...oops wait, that's another story... back to the point, sometime in our lives we run into the one alpha male super stud God's gift to women who all should bow down and adore...*(pause to hurl)* who just doesn't understand that not every woman at the party wants to, needs to, or even remotely desires to be on his menu. Tasha said it much less kind :) these guys do make an impact, cause issues, and otherwise can ruin the hours of planning and expense that the hosts have put in to see that the party is a great one! Rules should be as simple as an RSVP Invitation, with a Plus one if a couple wishes to bring a single male who they can personally vouch for. It also let's the plus one have someone they can play with and not feel the need to bunny hop the honey pots ;) But I digress, Single guys, its as simple as coming out to the less "house party" type events and let people get to know you, then you may be invited to the more intimate parties. There are REAL stamps on this site, earn em. Problem solved. As for how the rest of us that I know of feel about the whole thing? Swinging is like the intelligent gentleman said before, swinging is for swingers, swingers are couples, wanna add party favors, bring your own...and share them if you like. Personally, and realistically, the couples who play and enjoy this lifestyle together at least have some semblance of security knowing the general family of people who are playing are committed to being safe for their playmates and their spouses/selves. Stepping off 3am soapbox and curling up with a chocolate bunny, think i'm gonna nibble her ear...if I can keep the dog from ear blocking me :) lmao

Swingers clubs are the new singles hangout? - - I personally have noticed a small but steady increase of single straight women at the swinger's club I hang out at. Normally I would just play it off as a fluke when some friends of mine said that from what they have heard swingers clubs are becoming the place of choice to go for both single women and men hoping to find "Mr. Right". Now the things I like about the club I frequent are the friendly and no pressure atmosphere, and the ability to have fun without having someone ask me every 5 minutes if I want a drink. Has anyone else noticed an increase in the number of single straight women at swingers clubs? Richard

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - We are going to unspoken tomorrow night. Anyone else going?

tired of the B>S> - - The only chance we have of meeting fakes is if the couple at the club or party turns out to be transsexual dwarfs and were fooled by their elevator shoes making them look taller. We have been around this stuff a good while. Actually we have never tried to meet a couple on this website, we gave that approach to meeting long before this website came to be. (I know my ass doesn't look that old but it is trust me) Fakes have always plagued these boards, it was FAR WORSE when you didn't have the verification systems in place and while these are good they are still not a guantaree you are dealing with the real deal. The now infamous "Christylynn" was certified as a "real couple" and technically they were a "real couple" just not what you had planned on. You can e-mail someone back & forth till your fingers bleed but your will not truly know what's behind door number two until they walk through the door. The best way to try and eliminate fakes and flakes is obviously to meet them in person. The only way to hope to be successful is NOT to plan an evening out with ONE COUPLE. We are fortunate enough to have a variety of swingers clubs and organized lifestyle parties in our area to use as a place to meet where we can not only see the couple we can SEE the couples interaction. (This is the part that helps you avoid the flakes) This works great for people like the original poster who lives in West Palm Beach Florida and this is what I recommend. For those who live in Alta, Utah (Pop.304) this approach is not so good. You fine folks in Alta will probably have to do a little more on-line work to round up some party people. (Just start with real seal at MINIMUM and work it from there...good luck.