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Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - [quote=EVILDOERS]Personally I think you might be a little too eager (can't blame you, we all were when we started) and pushing just a little too hard to make her fantasy a reality. Rather than trying to find a way to get around the "Catch 22" of her fantasy maybe just explore it more verbally and see if it evolves into some kind of scenario that she is comfortable with that more easily can happen in the real world. The most successful swingers we know, ourselves included, arrived at where they are by being open and supportive of each other's fantasies and desires without forcing them in any way. In other words, be patient, explore your fantasies verbally and maybe role play, a LOT, with each other before you jump into anything that either of you isn't quite ready for. You might be surprised as you fantasize openly and honestly how your fantasies might evolve and become something that you eventually can and will make a reality. You know your wife better than anyone and maybe she does need a little nudge but most of the swingers we've known over the years who've crashed and burned did so because one partner pushed the limits too fast and didn't wait for the more hesitant partner to catch up. In our case we were quite surprised and what our fantasies morphed into when we really dug deep and talked about the truly deviant (by local standards anyway-lol) aspects of our fantasies. Sorry, I know that's probably not the kind of advice you were hoping for but it's been our observation over a rather lengthy swinging career. Another thought, if you're bound and determined to make your first swinging experience a MFM, is to find a guy who is okay with just watching you two play or maybe getting involved in some soft swinging...i.e. back rubs and or touching but no intercourse. We were soft swap for the first year or two of our swinging life and it was great fun and took the pressure off until we were ready to take the next step. Best of luck! edit- Sorry about what now seems like a long rambling response. In my defense it was pre-coffee. [em]Emo_79[/em] [/quote] Damnit! Evildoers is right again!

sexy cities - favorite travel destinations - [quote=PARTYINLV]I thought about Vegas or Palm Springs. But, Cap d'Agde in southern France is the place to go. It's a nude city. Everywhere you go, people are naked. It has also attracted a large community of lifestyle and swingers. 30,000 naked people! We're looking for travel buddies! https://www.capdagdeguide.com/swingers/[/quote] We want to go there as well!

stupid posts on topics that may make newbies change their minds! - - If Amy is addressing some rules of etiquette, in regards to forum posting, I think to immediately dismiss her is unfair. I cannot seem to comprehend how someone posting something stupid, moronic or childish would have a negative affect on a new couple or individual's decision to look into swinging? I can understand how posting something stupid, moronic or childish might have a negative affect on how a couple or individual. with any level of experience, might feel about the poster. Perhaps, Amy is addressing how often we just go off topic? Is that not perhaps a valid complaint? Amy, has a valid point, in that interrupting a conversation can be rude. If a poster opens up a thread, within these forums, that is pertinent to the swinging lifestyle, and a discussion begins, perhaps it is appropriate, to let the conversation evolve around the topic. If a poster makes a statement, that anyone feels to be offensive, dangerous or inaccurate, and someone disagrees then voicing their opposition, is still subject relevant. Personally, if an original posture, opens up, or ventures into a discussion, that seems predatory or abusive, I see no reason to not at least ask for clarification, to make sure I am understanding correctly, what they are saying, or if it is quite clear what they are saying to voice my disagreement. The world ask us all to be far too agentic and compliant. Just because someone says something that involves sex, should not make it acceptable, if it is in violation of anyone's humanity. Amy mentions posting on topics that may have new swingers change their minds about swinging, and not just humor. New people investigating swinging, perhaps, should know that the level of intimacy, found in swinging, creates a certain additional level of risk. To dwell on it, to the point we trust no one may be counter productive. Perhaps, giving anyone with any sort of abusive and or unhealthy approach toward their fellow human beings too much time on the front page forums could lead anyone investigating the lifestyle to flee even more than stupid humor. We would rather laugh than to be marginalized and or abusively objectified. Personally, I think some of the more ridiculous post, and questions, that were intended as a serious question, will die rather quickly if everyone adopted a subject relevant attitude toward contributing to the forum threads. But what about the post that are swinging lifestyle relevant, that are interesting, and that perhaps, especially for someone new, might be beneficial? Is it possible that to go off subject, so that those discussing the subject at hand, have to sift through all our off topic humor, might be rude? Personally, I enjoy reading a lot of the playful nonsense, that ends up in the forums. Never-the-less, I have decided, that I will personally, try and avoid getting off topic, unless the original post was obviously written in such a manner that it seem to invite some level of ridiculousness or was obviously leading toward a more expansive discussion. If the original poster, seems happy to wander, even if the discussion wanders around a bit, even if it is a serious subject, I think I can feel safe to go off topic, and even then to be more careful. So Amy, if you are asking to be respected, I have decided to, think and rethink, before I submit anything off topic. Hopefully, I am on topic at present.

"Swinger Robots"?? - WtF?, Now, on top of everything else, we have to worry about Robot Swingers? - [quote=EVILDOERS][quote=UPLIFTYOURLIFE]Priceless[em]Emo_9[/em] [/quote] How do you know those are nuts? Could easily be a baby crowning...or a tumor...or a massive hemorrhoid and/or prolapsed rectum.[/quote] Since this is a thread about robots and he posted an old, very non-robot transphobic meme I'd say [b]knowing [/b]isn't UPLIFTYOURLIFE's strongest suit.

Vegas Bound March 23-25 - - There is also a Swingers Luau party on Saturday the 24th. I think it is ok to post the link if not admin please delete if necessary. http://www.eventbrite.com/event/2904456307/eorg

Las Vegas - Fun - [quote=just4funxxx11]Thanks for all the comments. WE are actually leaving saturday lunchtime so it's thursday or friday play for us[/quote] Check out Swingers Circle for Thursday night

Black Rings - Do Swingers really? - [quote=EVILDOERS]These are the only black rings that we're aware of that give you slightly more than a 50% probability of identifying a swinger. [img]https://www.extremerestraints.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/640x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/p/sp130-new2.jpg[/img] [/quote] Bahahaha! That's too funny!

Best swingers club for a 26m/36f couple - - Thads in San Diego

Traveling - Finding other lifestyle couples while traveling - Anybody know how to locate swingers in other st ates?

What were you for Halloween? - - [quote=EVILDOERS]Halloween seems to be high holy days for swingers at least around here. Did you dress up and go to a lifestyle party? We didn't know if we would for sure be in town so we had to come up with some quick last minute costumes. Ms. Evil was Ines Sainz...super tight, lowcut top, tight jeans, overstuffed bra, ubiquitous sunglasses on top of her head, press credentials and her microphone complete with TV Azteca logo. I was a NY Jets player, Jets jersey, eye black, towel wrapped around my waist with one of Ms. Evil's strap-ons poking out under the towel. The only Jets jersey I could find was Mark Sanchez so after more than a few drinks when clueless people kept asking who/what I was supposed to be I smeared some chocolate on my upper lip and told them I was a "dirty Sanchez". ;-) Evil[/quote] Very creative...last year I was a bumble bee and D dressed in his 3-D camo and put condoms all over...by the end of the night we were so tired of explaining that he was a rubber tree plant I just told everyone he was a vending machine for condoms lol