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We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - Queen,
It sounds like you've had lots of good. All those people vouching for you is a good sign. I hope I didn't make it sound like you were whining. I was just trying to cheer you up, by showing you the good side.
;-)
-D-
A paradigm shift - polyamory - Your thoughts? Here are mine... - Hitting the topic of Poly.... I am poly my wife is not. We swing. I have a lady friend, spice if you will who is also married and her husband is not poly and they do not swing. We, all 4 of us are fast friends and both my wife and her husband have no problem with her's and my arrangement. THey also know that We swing. Now how did that person come into our life.. we met and became friends almost immediatly. I fell in love with her but am sill "IN love with my wife as well. I< we, like to become friends with people before we jump into the sack with them... BTW they both know that we swing. Could I fall in love with another woman, definitely.. Could I fall for a woman who we might swing with....I could and have. No biggy...If she is not into that I understand... Not everyone can handle the situation
Some one mentioned that jealousy are natural.... Only in the sense that by example we are programmed to them, just as we are not "taught " not to eat other people but we kind of get that impression...Canibalism(sp) is not acceptable any more than is marrying ones own sister or brother. Possessiveness is about owning somthing that is not yours to own. No one owns anyone else and especially not their spouse. Is it natural to own a person? I say no. Somehow when people get into a relationship the idea creeps in that says that the other person is your exclusive property. One need to put that aside if one is a swinger. As for jealousy.... Jealousy is a combination of both possessiveness and ones own insadequacies. Maybe one could describe that as fear.. Fear that she or he will meet someone better. Fear that we are not good enough, etc etc etc. So Jealousy is a reaction to these fears and the possessiveness not a true emotion at all. Everyone thinks of Jealousy as an emotion, which it is not.
So polyamory is very possibly with swinging but may purists of poly will say that poly and swinging are difinitely two different things... Maybe but they can exist simultaneously.
Just a note; More than 60% and I've seen figures up to 77% of all married couples, and I'm sure that it extends to LTR's as well...maybe even swingers, are at some time in their life engaged in serial monogamy..; i.e., either cheating or getting ready for the split-up. Isn't this a simpler form of or something like poly? ... THink about that....
Young and eager - Tired of quarantine and ready to play - So i dont know about the rest of you but were tired of being shut in. Were young and ready to play and thinking about just saying fuck it. So we were thinking of doing something small and fun. Not so much a normal or big swingers or play party but something small. Thinking maybe 3 other couples for a bit of group fun maybe even go for an all nighter. A "slumber party" for adults. And with that wed also like to make this a under 40 limitation. So if you and/or your significant other are between 18-40 and feel interested and as tired of this quarantine as we are please feel free to contact us and let us know.
Ugly people and swinging - - Considering that what attracts one person to another varies wildly from person to person, its amazing that you can make a blanket statement about "ugliness" and "attraction" which you clearly ASSume pertains to all swingers.
Also just turning down a couple cuz you personally don't find both individuals in a couple attractive, without discussing with your partner whether or not they might be interested is just rude unless you are both bi and you know that well what they like.
My .02
-SG
Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - [quote=SEAKINGHER]I was raised to believe that morality and the law are the same thing. People, in LDS society anyway, seem to profess that being moral is obeying the law and that is what they teach their children in church. I have always assumed that other religions do the same thing. But what seems to be said here is that swingers feel that the law has little or nothing to do with morality and that we are perfectly willing to break the law for our own pleasure. Is that what we are saying here.[/quote]
Depends on what you are considering law. I think even in the LDS tradition there is an understand that God's law is higher than man's or governments law. A large part of the controversy of LDS polygamy comes because it was in disobedience to the law. Where church leaders believed that following their religious conviction was more important then what U.S. law said. But if you are taking some overarching moral law, like Kants categorical imperative then maybe. I think most swingers have the same ends in mind and no is being used as a means for an end. However that being said, I think most swingers seem to follow a more utilitarian guideline that pleasure is good and what promotes pleasure is good.
Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - I don't lie.
I don't cheat.
I don't steal.
I'm loyal to a fault.
I keep my promises.
I will have your back when ever you need it.
I donate both material items, $, and time to charities and those who need it.
I'm kind to animals, children (except my own LOL), those less fortunate, and my neighbors.
I respect and obey the law for the most part. Im STILL trying to learn how to drive without speeding.
I have taught my children to respect their elders, the law, and their friends.
However.....
I will rip you a new asshole when the one you currently have has your head shove up there.
I will do depraved sexual things with whom ever I want (consensual only) and enjoy every moment of it.
I will kick your ass if you hurt someone I love. Literally and figuratively.
And I don't share chocolate.
I don't what that makes me. Then again, I don't feel like I need to answer to you ("you" in general, not the OP) and justify my behavior. Your morals maybe completely different. If yours offend mine then I have the freedom to say "fuck you" and walk away. And vice versa.
Hey - - Okay...the lack of compassion and depravity that others have never ceases to amaze me. Not five minutes after posting my reply...here is the private email I got from "someone" who had previously posted on this thread...a.k.a. UTCPL...
Thought,
You should get on a plane and go fuck this poor sap. In case you have not realized it yet this is a swingers sight not Dr. Phil's show.
Maybe one or the both of you are the ones that need a good ass-fucking. It just might loosen up that tight sphincter you apparently have!
Your true character is really shining at at it's best this weekend UTCPL. Any more methods you might employ to make proverbial asses out of yourselves?
Maybe I need to get some popcorn and kick back to watch the ensuing show, eh?
Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - [quote=BITESIZE]These things come and go in cycles, like hairstyles or the ozone layer. I'm sure if you hang around for another five years someone will have another house party.
Just be patient.
Or...you could have a house party. That might work, too.[/quote]
Oh...I hope hairstyles don't change again...Ms. Karma and I really like ours right now!
Swingers Next Door! - ABC news story on Swinging! - There is a REAL reality show about swingers! Or as close as you can get. Completely unscripted, completely real! They only ask to restart a scene if they missed audio or need additional video (they are trying to tell a story, so it only makes sense that they do this)... The show represents the lifestyle in a sexy and accurate way. We've participated in the show two different seasons (on 5 episodes total) and will continue to do so as long as they let us. They do it with integrity and we are both incredibly proud to say that we are a part of such a great show. It's on Playboy TV, it's called SWING! Nothing like the drama filled, scripted, and utterly unrealistic show on A&E. We highly recommend checking it out! We're going to try and have a party as each episode releases for the upcoming season with our lifestyle friends (everyone should!). Oh, and the other bonus, it's on Playboy TV, so there's plenty of nudity and sex!!!!! Need I say more?
Perhaps this the answer... - "Sweetie, is that couple looking at us?" - Bracelet, necklace, pinkie ring, secret sign. We all talk about how to spot swingers in normal every day life. Perhaps if we all just bought one of these :)
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/07/magnetu-connects-you-with-similar-people-in-your-area-because-d/
Seriously though, it would be horrific if one was to run into their boss at a bar who for whatever reason also happened to be carrying one of these devices while yours was set to swing. But none the less, it was the first thing I thought of when I read this article.
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