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Question - do you talk about other swingers? - We agree, never use names, or even screen names, it is a small community, this life we are in. When talking with old or new friends, no matter what, it's always best to leave names out of it, even if you are talking positive about someone. We have come across, people, who ask questions of other people, either they seen some validations, or they just know we know, we live by the golden rule of, create your own opinion, it's sometimes a tough question to get out of, especially if you know something negative, but, unless the people are going to put you in any kind of danger, we keep our mouths shut. People ask us to be descreet for a reason, and who are we to violate that trust.

Gen. Coling Powell is voting for Barack Obama... - Breaking news this morning on Meet The Press - A good deal of the constituency, of the right are racist pigs. It's one of the largest reasons why I would never join the GOP. Even when I voted more 'right' when I lived in Oregon, I never affiliated. What I find funny are all the registered republican swingers. A party that would condemn you for your lifestyle choices and would love to see you in jail for it. I just don't get it. I lived in the South and I will never move back. I've also decided that I refuse to support a party that tries to enforce Christian dogma on the populous despite the 1st Amendment, take away our right to search and seizure despite the 4th and the while banging the drum of the 2nd Amendment. Last time I check anyone can get a firearm. Can you say the same thing about the 1st and 4th? NO! -D-

On the road again - Frequent Travelers - Interesting thought It would be fun to meet other swingers on the road for the purpose of hanging out, not swinging....

Do you long for your "vanilla" friends? - Have you been with any? - [quote=theseduction747]Being new to Utah I can not imagine how you deal with friends here with all the LDS people here. But it appears there are more LDS that have a secret side than people realize. Now how to find that out may be the trick. I always cut up and joke so they would be able to get the hint so they could decide on making the move or not. If you comment in a fun way in a joking environment eventually information will start being revealed. If not they are probably not into it and you can always excuse it as joking or cutting up. lol I have found out more than I wanted to know from some friends of ours over the years. Even some we had no interest in. It is just my nature to cut up a make funny comments. So they get comfortable talking back. That can backfire too lol. [/quote] The feeling we've gotten from chatting privately with people here is that a good percentage of swingers in Utah are indeed LDS, whether active or inactive. Appears too a good number are former LDS members cutting loose. With no judgement or disrespect to the LDS reading this, I find it fascinating. At any rate, thanks for the post and good idea with joking around.

Questions about the Lifestyle. - Should we get in or not? - Well, I went touring with a couple of bands when I was just a lad, and discovered the wonderful world of no strings attached sex, bisexual women, orgies and such. It was just a couple of years but it did put an interesting finish on my late teens and early twenties. In my mid twenties I fell head over heals in love with a 19 year old virgin, who was saving herself for marriage, so I married her. The marriage has been fantastic as has been the sex. We had a bunch of kids and enjoyed great monogamous sex for over twenty years. As the kids were beginning to become happy and successful adults, we sort of decided to consider acting on some fantasies we had discussed. That was about 2005 we think. We got an invitation to a meet and greet they used to have at a place called Club Vegas, and we met a few swingers. We had one hook up with a couple where nobody got around to actually saying lets get naked, even though we all wanted to. Our next encounter ended up to be really sexual, as in there was full swap sex. It was the first time Mrs. Delicious every had sex with anyone other than myself. It went swimmingly well. Soooo, we hooked up a lot at first, in quite a few scenarios, with couples and or singles. There were a few difficult moments, but nothing traumatic. It was good, good! From time to time we have just really wanted to only sexually focus on each other, but really never all together lost interest in swinging, but really did not try and hook up very often. We are kind of there now. Our family is growing, with kids getting married, having kids, and consequently, so are family events on the calendar. Family first, because as much as we enjoy swinging, we actually prefer family time. We don't make it out to the big events, or very many meet and greets. We play with some old friends from time to time and yes we are still interested in meeting some new lovers, and we still pursue that a bit, but frankly, we are pretty hard to nail down time wise. Are we happy we decided to step into the "lifestyle"? Yes we are. Perhaps it was relatively easy for us to adjust, because we have always had faith and confidence in each other, and we discovered that we both seemed to have married someone with whom we are very compatible in all sorts of ways including sexually. We still remain each others favorite lovers. If you are both on the same page about trying this adventure, then try it! Nothing ventured nothing gained. If you discover it does not fit in with your relationship, then give it up. If it does not make you happy don't force it.

Preconceived Ideas - - It's been a long time, but I'm not sure that I had any preconceived ideas. I'm poly and responsibile non-monogamy was nothing new to me. On the other side of this relationship B knew I was Poly and she didn't quite understand it but trusted me. She was "curious" that is to say if she saw FF play in a flic she got so gushing wet.. but because of her catholic upbringing, she couldn't be Bi....that's a sin.....??.... Well we went to a party and luckily a couple and staff members sat down and talked to her and she watched people and talked to others and found out they were not pervs. Nurses and medical personel are probably the largest group in swinging. Cops, (police for the people who don't like the other term) truck drivers, mechnics, architects, contractors, engineers etc... So a good cross section of the general populaion are represented.. When she found this out...she embrassed the lifestyle and she loves to dance and... let her libido run. She was no longer curious after a couple of parties.... So she can get nude do whatever she wishes and even have orgasms on the dance floor dancin with herself.... WOW... So her preconceived ideas was that swingers were pervs... Oh...and I guess we are... By the vanilla world.....Give em time... pretty soon maybe everyone will cum over to the lifestyle,,lol

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - I am a Pony Man! 1969 Mach 1, 428 Cobra Jet, shaker. 1972 Mach 1, 351 Ram Air 4V. Would send Pics if I could figure out how to attach!

Another Swingers Show on TV - - [quote=CALLETSPLAY]Can't DVR it kids will ask questions. Hey how's about a party where we can all sit around and watch it!!![/quote] I'm up for that, not at our house, sure the kids would be like "ummmm why are all these people here, and what the heck are you watching." Would be a great M&G/potluck idea.

Professionals - - FL4FUN, I'm just stating the socio-political realities of OUR area. It's a bizarre place. My point is that nobody really cares what working class folks do around here. But 90% of folks do seem to care what you do in your spare time if you have some sort of prominence in the community professionally speaking. I don't make the rules. I just have to live by them. A lot of swingers are looking for people they actually share non-sexual interests with as well. I see nothing wrong with talking about hobbies, taste in recreational activities, etc. in a profile. It just puts more meat on the bones...helps you get a bit better idea of who a couple is. As club owners, we are keenly aware of the fact that there are a LOT of different types of folks coming at the lifestyle from a LOT of different angles and hoping to find a LOT of different things. And it's all OK so long as nobody is getting hurt. I just recalled one profile I saw from a couple out of New Port Richey, FL, I believe. They talk quite a bit about the fact that he is a professional fishing charter captain. I found their profile very interesting. It was pretty detailed, well constructed, and enticing. You see, we travel to that area about once/year on vacation and I love to fish. I figured he and I might have some things in common. Another couple talks about the fact that he is a sky-diving instructor and she is an avid sport shooter. My wife wants to jump out of an airplane BADLY and we love sport shooting. So we have set up a meeting with them as well. The more detailed a profile is, the more we appreciate them.