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What about the lifestyle didn't meet your expectations? - Preconceptions and disappointment. - For us, one of the things that surprised us was that all swingers were not extremely gifted and intuitive lovers. We kind of expected to be out of our league with a group of people who, having ostensibly had sex with a lot of people, would be extremely adept at the art of making love but with maybe a few exceptions we were very wrong. LOL Another big shock was what terrible kissers most swingers are. It's funny, many of them THINK they are good kissers but our experience has been that most seem to have all the skills of a 10th grade high school vigin when it comes to sensuous kissing. Has anyone else found many of their play partners to be extremely lacking when it comes to kissing skills?

What really defines a TRUE swinger? - - [quote=CHUCKSTOE]to us swingers are people who want have fun some want to be friends and have fun, and the single males need to know there place and not be pushy or circle like a vultures. [/quote] Tell me you just did NOT insinuate that single males are not people who want to have fun and want to be friends...did I really misread that? And quite frankly the majority of pushy vultures *I* have experienced on Swingular are MARRIED. And not just men either. Being a pushy vulture is not related to marital status or gender. Just the lack of class and manners.

male curiousosity - - Hubby is bi and we don't hide it. There are a lot of people on here that are bi and state they are stra8. As far as for STD's please people be more opened about it....if you sleep with one you sleep with whom ever they have slept with. What makes you think your are going to contract STD's from giving a man oral and not from a woman...especially if we are a full swap couple....let's just say am sucking on 2 cocks at the same time....hummm wouldn't I be the transporter of the STD....so...My hubby and I know that we are playing Russian Roulette on here. We have become swingers, we don't know who everyone we have been with, had been with prior to us..... we take the necessary cautions and we never go bareback does that protect us completely...NO.....like I say, Russian Roulette but we both have talked about it and it is a consequence we have to face if it does happen. Oh bi the way it is so hot to see 2 men on a 69

One month till Xmas! - - What do you want Santa (or Satan, for the dyslexic) to bring you for Xmas? 1) A foolproof way to turn vanillas to the dark side. 2) Lots of DVDA (double vaginal, double anal). 3) Some brand spanking new titties...double E please! 4) A new Mercedes...with heated seats and live streaming porn. 5) Some of that shit you inject into your dick so you can stay hard for hours and hours. 6) An all expense paid trip to Desire and a case of Magnum condoms. 7) A Hitachi vibrator with TURBO! 8) A giant stocking full of nasty swingers!

To cover up or not to cover up - Slut shaming and the lifesyle - The two of us are both sexual by nature. Repressing our sexuality, to conform to conservative standards never felt quite right. Human sexual desire, and a full measure of sexual self expression, for most of us, requires at least one other human being that you can trust and that you want to share your sexual expression with, that also trust you and in return wants you sexually too. For some of us sexual self expression and fulfillment may include the desire to be sexually active with more than one person and in some cases include a desire for more than one gender. Swinging and the ever expanding category of people that are included within the community, perhaps, make the potential for sexual fulfillment more available. So how do you feel about balancing the joy of freely expressing your sexuality and the need to self protect in a world where not everyone understands boundaries? Can we agree that person to person, couple to couple, or members within a play group, involved in any actual in the flesh connections, that may include sex, that can and are happening within the community, in the vast majority of instances, only include people with an established attraction, and an certain level of established trust? People can only cross physical boundaries, if and when, they are near enough to the person with the boundaries, they are either invited, or not invited to cross. In the digital world, visual expressions and written displays of our sexuality, and some among us are overtly sexual, are kind of like a message in a bottle, flung to the tide. No matter how much detail you include in the messaging, anyone, walking along the beach might and will read it. If they get a little or even considerable pleasure from the message, so be it, no harm done. If they know they are not your target market or recognize that you are not what they're looking for, no harm done, so long as everyone remains respectful and understands the concept of consensual. Understanding messaging, when direct, or subtle, is perhaps a key that opens doors, that lead to other doors, that lead to places within us and in others, we want to have visited, but not by just anyone. Lelu, the Fifth Element, played by Milla Jovovich, in the movie of the same name, at one point in the movie, tells Corbin Dallas, played by Bruce Willis, "Not without my permission". Lelu, in just so many words, tells Dallas volumes about, who she is, and at that moment how she sees him, and that possibilities may exist, but are always consensual. As is the case, with Lelu and Dallas, we all send out messages, subtle and not so subtle, about our desires and our sexuality. We all open doors within us to people that discover the key and some doors are really not so hard to enter, whereas, others are. Perhaps, one sure way to close a lot of doors, is to behave like some construction worker cat calling "come on baby, you know you want it" to a attractive woman, walking down the street, as if her dressing sexy and revealing, for whoever she is heading to see, or just so that she might send a subtle message about desire and mood, entitles anyone to anything more than a respectful visual acknowledgement of her beauty. A subtle, respectful acknowledgment, with no expectations, and no pressure, such as a smile and a nod may, perhaps, begin something. Banging on her door, and taking verbal liberties, without an invitation, is more than kind of creepy. Perhaps, not to understand that, it's creepy, is even creepier. Slut shaming and taking liberties at any level, even within the lifestyle community, remains kind of creepy. Should swingers let their fear of the creepy sort inhibit their outward expressions, like an attractive woman, might decide to go out of her way to avoid the ignorant, uninvited comments made by a few workers without a clue and consequently without a hope or a prayer, to have anything consensual with a woman like her? Is reading, remembering and respecting signals when sent, perhaps paramount toward the development of all sorts of relationships, including swing relationships?

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Swingers now officially a high risk group for STDs and STIs - Do your own research - I now promise to make no more post myself in this thread. If it dies so be it. The intent was never to upset anyone. We are not "I told you so" sorts of people and we hope the best for everyone. Of course we hope that we will discover we are overreacting. We are at peace with our decisions. If we did not care we would not share our concerns. Peace and love!!!

Ldscouple74 - Are there any active LDS couples here - Yup, there are. We know several. We were actually sort of semi-active back when we started (And of course lied thru our teeth during bishop interviews.LOL). And we've known at least half a dozen couples over the years who were outed (Usually by other swingers who for some reason decided they needed to confess or were pissed because someone stopped fucking them and decided to "name names".) and exed. :-( This reminds us of one of our fav swinging stories. We knew a couple who LOVED to party. Almost every single Sunday, after having a LOT of sex Saturday night, they sent us a text to tell us they felt guilty and were quitting the lifestyle. And almost every single Wednesday or Thursday we'd get ANOTHER text asking us where the parties were for the coming weekend. LOL! Sadly, they're divorced now, but it was a running joke about them in the little swinging circle we were active with at the time.

Reject Affair Match - Cheaters are not swingers - Riderz, You crack us up!

KSL swing story - - YAY! I'm actually excited to see this "expose"...I find it quite funny that there is so much hype surrounding it, actually. Does anyone really pay that much attention to the news anyway? I sincerly doubt that I will go to work tomorrow and hear someone say "Dude, did you see that story about Swingers last night?" Hey Recon - how come we haven't swapped bikes yet? My BMX for your Harley... A&K