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Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Never heard of that. We are in Ogden love king for fun too.

International Swingers Day - How are you celebrating? - [quote=ASHY][/quote] I guess it's the main night tonight. It doesn't seem to be a big thing in Utah.

A&E New show about swingers... - neighbors with benefits.... - HBO did a great job with the "Real Sex" show in the 90s. THAT was reality TV.

Black Ring, Right Hand - How to tell if someone's a swinger - [quote=EVILDOERS]OMG! Just had a client walk in and notice my black tungsten wedding ring (I've had one for a couple of years now.) He told me that it I were to wear it on my right hand it would indicate I was gay. [/quote] There are some gays who wear their wedding rings on their right hands (solidarity against "the man" who doesn't let them marry, etc.) -- but "black" isn't a specific thing in the gay community as far as I can tell from some quick research. The middle finger on the right hand is apparently reserved for the asexuals. (People who aren't interested in sex). Although given that there are roughly 8 such people in the United States, I wouldn't stress too much over being confused with that community. If this gets any more complex, we're going to need a right-hand-ring governing body. =) I view the black-ring on a swinger-looking couple as the final checkbox of "oh.. yup.. definitely swingers... look.. both wearing black rings on the right hand". If I just saw a random person with a black ring on a right finger, I wouldn't think anything of it. I would just like to see it become more of a thing in Utah, like it is elsewhere in the country. =) My wife and I wear ours when we go out together for date-night... otherwise we don't bother with them. I know none of this will stop folks from screaming and yelling at how ridiculous it is -- But if you ARE going to scream and yell, don't forget to continuously remind as many people as possible how much credibility you have on the matter because you used to swing with the Flinstones. (On our swingers cruise recently, we DID enjoy the many stories from the elderly about what it was like to swing before the days of the internet... so this thread has become a bit like a free tropical vacation, in that sense!).

Friend collectors or swingers - - People and their life situations change. What works for them today, may not work for them six months from now. If swinging is your number one priority in life, then everything else in your life can revolve around swinging. Most of us are not swingers first, and everything revolves around the lifestyle. Where we are, in life, and what and who will be a good fit, for happy sexy adventures is going to vary. Knowing that, it’s logical to assume, that in the digital swingers world, we are all going to hear from people that are not a good fit. People that we won’t be interested in meeting in person and people that aren’t interested in meeting us. Just because someone does not follow up with some of us, does not mean they are not following up with others they have met online. Ghosting people leaves a level of uncertainty. I happens, and it is unfortunate. We have some people in our friend list who sent us a request, that we accepted, and nothing more than that has happened other than a couple of friendly emails. If for whatever reason, something about the interaction makes us uncomfortable we can, and occasionally we have, unfriend them, or block their profile. If all that stands between us is a level of inconvenience, or right now, our or their, or our mutual decision to not hook up during the pandemic, we don’t see any reason to let that bother us. It does sound like it is more difficult for younger newer couples to hit sexual pay dirt today, than it was when we started. That must be frustrating. Once we made the decision to open up our marriage, sexually, to other people, sex happened rather quickly and was available rather frequently. That does not mean we never needed to say, or sometimes hear not interested. Just checked our sent emails going back a year. We sent out a total of two friend request in the last year. We received a lot of friend request. We rejected some friend request. We accepted some friend request. Some are still in our friends list. I guess we don't fit into the category of people actively looking to collect digital friends, but we are still collecting friends.

A&E New show about swingers... - neighbors with benefits.... - [quote=KIDSATPLAY]Why would any industry sponsor shows about the positive side of Swinging? I doubt there is any big money in promoting the swing lifestyle any more than there is profit to singing the praises of plural marriage. The vice industry might even suffer financially should swinging really catch on. This is a lifestyle that must eat the crumbs that fall from the gay lesbian table to acquire any "me to" acceptance. It seems like social and financial suicide for the deep pockets.[/quote] They had a swinger pride parade in new Orleans this year. Maybe in 20 years we can have a table too.

Birds of a Feather - Finding couples that share similar interests - Speaking of the Bible belt and swingers... We are in NC (by choice not birth) We are not Baptists but we know a considerable amount of swingers who are very much Baptists but play on a regular basis.... The question has been asked at after party bull sessions about religion and swinging and on several other swinging sites.... The interesting thing is that most find no conflict in swinging and their religion. So if you're lookin for Baptists in the Bible belt... Come to NC where the Baptists rule, swingers' clubs abound and baptist's never recognize their fellow baptists in the ABC store or at the club socials...

Lava hot springs - - [quote=Utahldscouple][quote=MoreFun4U][quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]We stay in Pocatello. The drives nice enough getting there and the foods pretty good in Pocatello.[/quote] Worst advise I can think of... It defeats one of the biggest attractions of Lava, which is once you park your car for the weekend it doesn't move until you go home. I can think of few things less fun than driving 35 minutes on mountain roads after a couple of drinks at the Blue Moon or visiting Lava and being tagged the designated driver. Everyone that parties goes to the Blue Moon as that is where the fun is at in the evening. For those who have never done Lava the main attractions in the summer are tubing the river and the Blue Moon, while the main attractions in the winter are the hot springs and the Blue Moon. There are other things to do and you can mix and match, but we've found that is how our time breaks out when we're not fucking. We visit Lava 5 or 6 times a year, of those maybe two are for LS Events, two for romantic getaways and two for friends and family. Lava is known as a local Idaho and Utah swingers destination and there are many there every weekend. The problem is you need to have your meet ups scheduled before arriving as it's almost impossible to sort the LS from the vanilla on site. Risqué Soiree held an event in Lava last spring that was very fun and well attended, we hope they do it again this year. It was a great event for those new to the LS or anyone wanting to meet friends. Also because it involved both Idaho and Utah there was a lot more interaction than many meet ups where people have a tendency to group up with those they already know. Lava is one of those places you will either fall in love with and visit often, or visit once to say you have been there and done that and never return. But one thing I can promise, and that is if your room is in Pocatello you'll never understand the nuances that make Lava so charming to many. If you want big fancy hotels and everything about your visit orchestrated you would be much better advised to spend your vacation in Vegas as you will not be happy in Lava. Anyhoo... that's our two cents, your mileage may vary.[/quote]And where do you stay? Is drinking necessary to enjoy lava? [/quote] We were speaking for ourselves, and ourselves alone, based on past experience, and not really offering advice. We aren't a good fit for everyone, and everything isn't a good fit for us. We are open to expanded experiences on a theme and are not saying we would never consider staying in Lava.

We're Back!!! - Hi there! - [quote=Canvas][quote=Starlights]Makes me wonder how many viable, sincere hits you two get with such a specific search criteria. You don’t consider yourselves “swingers”, but you’re on a swinger site looking for an exclusive relationship… from my own personal experience and from what I’ve seen with others, this type of relationship with another couple burns short but bright. I always caution couples we know when they come across other couples that change their minds from a sexy fun friendship to trying to back them into a serious “exclusive” relationship… excluding all other friends they’ve made in this LS along the way. It can be a drama filled and painful road. I’m sure of the 6 couples you’ve dated over the years you can attest to that if you’re being 💯 honest to yourselves. This type of relationship should be (imo) found organically and mutually if that’s what it ends up being… Saying you want to be exclusive with a potential swinger couple from the start, while upfront and honest, can sound forced and rigid. Some of the stories of possessiveness between couples just sound absurd to us given the LS they’ve chosen. In any case, good luck with your search.[/quote] 👍 I get that. If I'm understanding Candyrocks criteria, I can empathize with them though. We feel similarly challenged in that we haven't much interest in couples whose focus is bouncing from couple to couple. At the same time, I realize that the relationship we hope to find is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Adding to that challenge is our location, and, more these days, the time. Our search might be narrow enough that we're dooming ourselves of any adult fun with others. But, if we settle for something that doesn't closely fit what we're hoping to find, it would seem we were not being true to ourselves, or the other couple.[/quote] Having good friends with benefits like this sounds like a beautiful dream but we're not going to limit ourselves to the pursuit of just that in the meantime. Exploring and expanding our boundaries has been a lot of fun and we'll continue to do so. If someday we do find this perfectly matched couple that checks all the right boxes and pushes all the right right buttons that lives close by, awesome, we'll make it a thing. Until then? Well...

Club Echo/Button Up? - Questions - [quote=LIVNITUP]It kinda surprises me that no one has tried to put a swingers type club in Wendover. Wendover usually gets pretty busy on the weekends and really busy during concerts. Obviously one in Salt Lake would be nicer but you wouldn’t think it would be that hard to get approval to do it in Wendover seeing it’s in Elko county on the Nevada side where prostitution is legal.[/quote] Go to the Nugget dance floor. That is where they are. I promise!!!