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Big Birthday Bash 12/17 - In Tampa @ Night Moves II - Come and celebrate Kim & Rick\'s Birthday Celebration at Night Moves II on Saturday, December 17th. If you are already a member of the CALIENTE AND PARADISE SWINGERS Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/calienteandparadiseswingersII/ , go to their message board for a great deal being offered by Night Moves II. Please note that you must RSVP at http://nightmovesii.com in order to get the special rate. Kim\'s birthday is the 17th and Rick\'s is the 22nd so come out to hang out with all of your friends, both old and new. Rick PS: We also starting a fun yahoo group if you would like to join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orkos/ :z

Any Sci-Fi lovers here? - What\'s to describe? Either you like a good sci fi TV series or movie or you don\'t. - Okay, We are going to add our names to the Geek Squad fo Sci Fi Lovin Swingers here on Swingular! (applause please) I (mR.) am a huge Star Trek fan, and NO, there will not be any debate as to the quality of the Captains of the Enterprise! Every Trek fan worth his salt KNOWS that JAMES KIRK is the space pimp who started it all! I mean come on!?!? A green chick, a blue chick, a BLACK chick (that was a network television first!) and every other kind of chick there was. If it was a space chick, he's fucked it people. You cant but that kind of love anywhere! Now I love Picard, Janeway, Riker (of Titan fame now if you are a reader), Sisko, and yes, even Captain Archer, for whom the federation adopted many new rules because he screwed so many things up, is cool with me. I was a huge DS9 fan also, well..the last 3 years anyway when Worf came aboard. I am also a huge Star Wars fan. In fact, I am the OFFICIAL star wars fan. If there is printed material on Star Wars, I own it. For those of you who read, the NJO (new jedi order) was fantastic! And everything before it as well. Just finished the three book Dark Nest trilogy and man am I impatient for more! We both loved X-Files. Nuff said right? There were times that I wanted to bitch slap Scully for being a doubting thomas though. Even after the movie she would say, "I dont believe it." Stupid bitch. LoL. We love SURFACE, STAR GATE SG-1, Atlantis, and my absolute fav right now has got to be GALACTICA!!! Talk about a completely perfect remake of a cult classic with a few twists on the characters! Good television. Since I am gone from home so much, I dont get to watch a lot of cable, but you can bet that when I do make a date with the TIVO I am GLUED to these shows, and nothing, short of my wifes sexy ass smile and devilish little "come and get it" grin, can make me press pause! Luvbugs! (mR.) ;)

How do we find a female fire a threesome? - - [quote=8NowUntilThen8]Get the hell off of a swingers sure. Go to tinder or some shit like that looking for a single woman. Guess what bud? We are mostly couples in here except the irritating single males. Lmfao[/quote] Spoken by someone who has been on the site for less than 6 months. Try 15 years! Perhaps it is you that needs to get the hell off. Members of this site are tolerant of others; always have been. Now it is your turn to adopt to our ways or get the fuck out. Sorry, I don't normally call out BS when I see it but damn, that quotation was just rude and non-informed. Mav

Favorite bars in utah - - [quote=EVILDOERS]Sweet! But be careful! [url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/las-vegas-doc-hosted-drug-fueled-swingers-sex-parties-cops-article-1.2151475]Swinger Doctor Arrested for hosting drug fueled sex parties[/url][/quote] The arrest were all drug related. I do not think that Las Vegas is out to shut down swingers parties because of the sex. Now Utah including Salt Lake City would be another story.

Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what. I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused.. One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on. You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden.. Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement. In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that... Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... . So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them. Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination.... We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced... I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..

what the f#%@ was he thinking? - swingers still deserve respect - We get those too, it ruins it for all those nice single men that really are respectful. When men like that IM us, we dont even give them a second thought, most of the time the feed off of the attention whether it is negative or posistive they really dont care as long as they get a response! My advice is just to simply ignore them, block them, do what you can to just not give them what they want! It is to bad that some people think that just cuz you are in this Lifestyle it means you will give it to anyone, at anytime and it simiply doesnt mean that at all........so we like sex more then most but it doesnt mean we are sluts, we still want respected. Good Luck!

Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - Simply put If you are Religieus you need to check their deffination of MORALITY. If you're not then WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IN, some form of "God" or "Paganism" etc. Then Finally what do you Fell and think is RIGHT/Wrong. CAN'T BE JUST ONE CORRECT RESPONSE.

Swingers of Color - - Yep, we're around. You just have to know where to look! LOL

Mormon Swingers - - [quote=Ucouple]Are you Mormon?[/quote] No. I was.

What really defines a TRUE swinger? - - My definition of "Swingers" is a couple in which both partners have agreed to allow the other to have an intimate relationship with another person. There are lots of situations that fit that description and lots of emotional states that occur as a result of swinging but that description works for me. So as a single male I don't think of myself as swinger but as someone who enjoys hanging out with swingers!