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Barack Hussein Obama - Political.. I think - Two points:
1. To blame Christianity because of the idiotic few is absurd and shallow. If that is our basis for judgment, then we must say all swingers are awful because some cheat on their spouses, or all children are bad because a few bully. Thinking Christianity is the downfall of anything is really sad. Please think bigger!
2. Those who put out stupid misleading information about either candidate in desperate untruths are also sad in my book.
I just hope people are smarter in this country than they were the last two presidential elections!
Vegas Club Recommendations? - Heading to Vegas April 9th - 12th - You'll want to consider The Green Door and Couples Oasis. Also, PURRFECTLV holds penthouse parties at the Riviera. You better hurry on that one though as the Rivera Hotel Casino is closing for good at 12 noon Monday May 4th. Might be a good time to catch one final photo with the Crazy Girls butt bronze.
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Vanilla friends / lifestyle - revealing our lifestyle to longtime friends -
T4REAL69,
There will always be those that are quick to pass judgement on others. We choose not to bother ourselves with people like that. We are no ashamed of who we are, nor are we scared of any of our friends or family finding out. As you can tell by my actions on these forums, I (Don), do not live my likes based upon what others think of me. I could give a fuck less. The people I love and live for already know, love and accept me. I say why bother wasting your time with people that suffer from delusions of being holier than thou. They can fuck off.
I see it as a "need to know" situation. If our friends are indeed in the "need to know", we tell them. If we see potential in involving them, we bring them along to a party. If they have an issue and try and force their morals, we cut our losses. What's cool is now nearly all of our friends are swingers or swinger friendly. So it's really no longer an issue.
Think about this. If a person... your "friend" were to say, "Swinging isn't right". Could you not just say, "What makes it wrong?" After all, you are not forcing them to do it. It maybe wrong for them. How is that wrong for you? It doesn't involve them at all. If they are so concerned with what you do in the bedroom, perhaps they are not basing the friendship on the things that really matter. They are not true friends.
-Don-
"Ich habe einen kleinen Vogel in meinem Kopf."
Note: Best if viewed with Microsoft Internet Explorer version 7Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - I (he) owned a '75 Gremlin X.
Black with Gold stripes. 304 V8 and 3-speed manual transmission.
One of the best cars I ever owned.
Swingers gone bad?? - - I can't or wwon't take the moral high ground here. I believe what was done was legally wrong. I was having sex by age 12 and knew what I was doing then. Was I legally competant??? According to statutes then and now, I was too young to make a good judgement. Did these boys or any others boys ever need alcohol to get into the mood to have sex??? Legally they did wrong.... If the boys were 10, 9 maybe even 11 maybe then they sould be too young to participate...
Now people taking the moral high ground........ Is swinging morally right? The lifestyle is sometimes called a fringe thing. It's not illegal according to the law but there are those who say that morality says that sharing each other with someone outside of the marriage is wrong. For those of you in Utah.... Polygamy, polygyny and polyandry is wrong... Actually the state had to outlaw the practice of having more than one wife or they wouldn't have gotten statehood. So they used the term Polyegemy or having more than one wife or having more than one husband at the same time. Polygyny is having more than one wife at the same time. It is illegal in most states for either of these 3 states or conditions to exist or to participate in.
I guess what I'm saying is, Are swingers morally upright or righteous enough to make the moral judgement on these people. Certainly, what they did was illegal but.... 50 years ago what we do today would have gotten us ousted from the community, church, loss of job (and that could still happen today) and maybe even jailed, under the right circumstances..
So, before we cast the first stone let us be certain that we are righteous or that we are well outside of our glass house.
Black Rings - Do Swingers really? - I just finished my new ring today, 7/24/21. Black ceramic with crushed jeweled inlay.
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Another Swingers Show on TV - - Sounds like we all missed the fun. The show was fine, but not as much fun as the real thing. Hope to see you guys soon.
Charlie & Kathi
Friday Hangouts? Moose... Nightshade??? - Looking for Fun Friday Outing - We have been to Moose Lounge a few times but its been a few months. Usually have fun. Definitely more fun with a larger group of "stylers" there. It is an interesting mix of "swingers" and younger gay/bi/straight people but they all mix well and makes things kind of fun and interesting. Just curious if people from here still go to Moose or if there is a new better spot.
Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - Anyone else? Just made more room.
Swingers Vacation Spots - Help us - I always here about Hedo as the place to be for swingers and we have discussed going there too, but have heard some stories that there are mostly men there. Point in case I had 3 male friends go. Is there a certain time of year that is better for couples to go? I though we had heard something along those lines, there are certain weeks that are much better for couples that normal. Also....is there any place else that is good. We are planning to go to Vegas in November...was wondering what types of trouble we can find there......
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