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Too Many Fake People Here - Nobody really wants to fuck! - [quote=WILDONEZ2004][quote=TIFFND][quote=HAOPENGYOU]Before we moved to the coast 3 years ago, we were pretty active in the Utah lifestyle, and it definitely seemed more active and vibrant than it does now, at least insofar as we can judge from activity on this website. Back then we would regularly do things with the same three couples, all of whom we met on Swingular, and we notice now that two of their profiles are no longer here on this site. So you might be right, although we hope not, because we had a blast with this in Utah. When we did make the move out of Utah, we switched to another website, as Swingular is strongly Utah-centric. In fact, we've never had a single communication on Swingular from anywhere at all outside of Utah. Hey, if things get too sparse, come meet us in Portland, which apparently is the [url=https://www.prunderground.com/swingery-publishes-top-10-cities-with-the-most-swingers-in-the-us/00102465/]#1 swinger city in the country[/url]. We had no idea about that when we moved to Oregon, but we're not complaining. Go to Privata downtown if you ever have the chance. And if you ever tell anyone that you're not interested in a physical relationship with them, and they lose it (happened to us one time), then they're no one you wanted to hang with anyway. You'll do well to be rid of them. If any of you ever make it to the coast, you're invited to sip wine with us and watch whales from our deck. Best of luck to you. And Happy New Year.[/quote] Our point originally was that perhaps these people aren't really as fake, as they are private. I think the scene here is actually still doing quite well! It's just changing. In our case, we're just not as "out there" anymore as we used to be....And kind of feel like maybe that's true for a lot of folks. And maybe it's our age...we are 10 years older now...and not exactly in high demand. That said...we just may have to do a bit of whale watching in Portland, someday.....[/quote] When we started nearly 10 years ago, we made MANY more connections through this site. Now...not so much. We’ve changed. The scene has changed. I remember bi-guys being afraid to mention it for fear of outright hostility. We now prefer a connection, and to meet first to see if the connection is there, if they are in fact real, and to see if they “creep us out.” We do enjoy finding new friends, even if it is just for the night, all the better of more than that. And just finding people who are a bit more liberated to share some company even if there’s no play involved is also great. We have much more to offer than a good roll in the hay, as do most people, and the hay rolling is awesome, but enhanced by an intelectual and mutual respect.[/quote] Well said!

Why the male side of Couples are here...? - I will admit I am hoping to spark some heated debate on this.... - Well as for me the male half in our equation I do not want to just get laid and I guess I am fortunate but the Mrs. would never think of treating me like a penis in waiting. I would not even consider knowingly fucking a woman that thinks about me or men like that. If that is really what women in the swinging scene generally think then all men, single and in a relationship, should be asking themselves why do they bother. I know there are a lot of women that behave otherwise, and that respect men that do at least dabble in non monogamy. These women would and should be insulted by such a selfish portrayal of who they are. Men that feel you are not worthy of equality get a hold of yourself. Considering who I am coupled with that is easy to understand. My wife is pretty damned special and extremely sexy and we remain extremely attracted to each other and the sexual chemistry is still there and evolving. Yes it is much easier to understand why I would be so captivated by her then the other way around but she loves me and I know how lucky that makes me. We still really, really dig each other. We both have to feel some real chemistry with any potential playmates for sex to happen. When you are happy then why settle so we don't? No interest on either side of our equation to just get laid. We already suspect that swinging will eventually run it's course and we will just lose interest. We seem to be almost totally disinterested in all the big events and only occasionally attend a meet and greet. There is a lot of dysfunction within the community and yet there are a lot of solid self aware functioning swingers. Excuse us but even some of the established rules of safe and fair swinger engagement seem subject to a lot of dysfunctional interpretation these days. Maybe the ease of access to these events that allows all sorts of at risk singles and couples, with at least one person attending that just wants to get laid, to just sign up is a problem for us. For now there is still a place within us for close encounters of the sexual kind with the right sort of friends (Friends we already have thank you for being so cool) but we are NOT someone's dick or pussy in waiting.

Utah moms (Mormon) TikTok drama - - [quote=guynextdoor]My wife and I met a couple in this friend group last year. I wouldn’t consider them swingers, as their soft swap version was mostly swimming/hot tubbing naked with the occasional “dare” kiss that would turn into making out in front of everyone else. I’ve heard of some couples sleeping around with others but I think that was more of a cheating situation than an open relationship.[/quote]This makes the most sense!

Friend collectors or swingers - - [quote=Mrmedic]I do have a question regarding this as I'm sure I'd be labeled as a "friend collector" based on how many friend requests I send out. My question is, how can you tell who is active vs who is not? The way I've tried to determine this is by sending "blind" friend requests to people I find interesting, and if they accept it, I assume they're active, and I send them a message. Is there an easier way to determine who has at least been on here recently vs those who haven't been on here for a year or longer? I definitely don't want to seem like I'm just a friend collector, but I also don't want to waste hours typing specific messages for profiles when 93% of them haven't been on in years and will never respond, if that makes sense.[/quote] There are two versions of a friend collector in our opinion. Version one: You receive or make a friend request with a short introduction. The friend request is accepted and that’s the last you hear from that person. Version two: You receive a friend request that develops into a week or two of conversation, pictures exchanged. and multiple attempts to arrange a meeting are made and they still flack on you. Eventually you never hear from them again but they don’t delete your friendships on the website. In our opinion these are the true definitions of a friend collector.

LDS Swingers Survey - Will any former/active LDS swingers take my survey? - The Mrs. took it. Anxious to see the results :)

Need A Change? Northern Utah - Business Start Up - Well you can tell we are in Utah. Even the swingers site has multi-level marketing ads.

Yet Another Cheater - - [quote=WYOFUNLUV]Isn't the reason everyone is here is to have wild different sexual experiences? If a male or female is married and chooses not let that be known then isn't that their business? I agree that if your not comfortable with it then its your right to ask and say no if you find it out. Either way if someone gets caught its not your problem its theirs. I know people on here that play and their spouses do not know many travel and/or dont have great sex at home whether it is due to medication or age or anything else. In the long run I dont think this is as much of a dating site as it is a site of like minded people looking to satisfy adult needs and fantasies. So Have fun and do what your standards and morals let you do. And don't chastise people who dont think like you. Ok I said my two cents. Now lets have some fun.[/quote] On a certain level, you're correct. It's nobody else's business. However, one could also use that argument to justify/excuse literally any behavior. What if a guy is abusive to his wife? Is it still nobody else's business since that's between him and her and he's just here to fuck other people? I know that I would want to know about something like that if I was going to be okay on ANY level with him being intimate with my wife. The same goes for a person who is, say, abusive to his kids or kicks his dog and leaves it chained up outside no matter the weather. I could go on and on about bad behavior that we'd want to know about, if possible, before we decided to invite that person into our relationship because, in a very real sense, that's what a couple is doing when they swing with someone else. That's also why many people don't feel like singles have as much 'skin in the game' (i.e. they aren't RISKING as much) and why many feel like so many single guys just don't 'get it'. Personally, Ms. Evil and I can't simply separate a person's sex organs from who and what they are as a person. So yeah, we're not really keen on playing with cheaters as that says something important, at least to us, about their character...or lack thereof. But don't worry. There are still people here who it doesn't bother in the least if the person they're fucking is doing so behind the back of someone they made promises and a commitment to. That's MY two cents. Oh, and when you say "...it's not their problem." well, it actually COULD be their problem. We knew a guy about 10 years ago who ended up in the hospital after a woman's husband (who the guy had been told was aware of and okay with her meeting swingers) caught him in bed with his wife.

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - [quote=BINKYSANCHEZ]My wife made comment to me this morning regarding the possibility of snoops creating fake profiles to pry and snoop. That comment alone was enough for me to remove some photos on our public profile until the hype phases out. Let's see what happens. [/quote] Hmmmm good point. Perhaps I should delete the photo of my telltale dick tattoo. Don't want the fam to find out our naughty little hobby by recognizing my ink. [em]Emo_8[/em]

Friday’s at Button Down 12/21/2018 - Friday’s at Button Down 12/21/2018 - Is this just a college bar that people in the LS like to hang out at or is this a genuine hangout for swingers?

Lifestyle Questions by newcomer couple - - I WANTED TO WELCUM U TO THE SWINGERS LIFE STYLE . AND I HOPE U GET TO EXPLORE AND MEET LOTS OF NEW FRIENDS AND U HAVE LOTS OF FUN .I PULLED UP YOUR PROFILE AND IT SAYS FULL SWAP . WHICH IS GOING TO GIVE COUPLES THE WRONG IDEA . AND THERE IS ALOT OF COUPLES LOOKING JUST FOR GIRL ON GIRL ACTION . AND SOME COUPLES ARE FREE TO EXPLORE ALONE SO I WOULDNT JUST RULE OUT ALL COUPLES . I WOULD LOOK ON DIFFERENT SITES AND SEE IF U CAN FIND THAT SINGLE FEMALE EVERYBODY IS LOOKING FOR . OR TRY A ALL GIRLS WEBSITE . BUT THEN THEY MIGHT NOT WANT TO PLAY WITH THE HUBBY .GOING TO PARTIES AND CLUBS IS THE BEST WAY TO FIND MORE PEOPLE . AT THE CLUBS THERE IS ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF PEOPLE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS . AND THE MORE PEOPLE U KNOW THE BETTER YOUR CHANCES ARE TO FIND WHAT U ARE LOOKING FOR . CAUSE EVEN IF U CANT FIND THE ONE AT THE CLUB THEN AT LEAST THEY MIGHT KNOW A FRIEND FOR YA .. WE GO TO PLEASURE PALACE ON SAT NIGHTS . THERE IS ALWAYS ALOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS . EVEN THOUGH THE SINGLE FEMALE IS HARD TO FIND IN THE LIFE STYLE WE DO SEE SOME THERE . OUR CLUB HAS STRICK RULES ABOUT HOW PEOPLE BEHAVE . SO EVEN IF U JUST WANTED TO COME AND HANG OUT AND MEET NEW FRIENDS OR DO YOUR OWN THING . THERE IS ALOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT ALSO THERE . NORMALLY THE BIG PARTIES BRING IN ABOUT 600-700 PEOPLE SO IAM SURE U CAN MAKE SOME NEW FRIENDS . WE ARE DOING A PHOTO SHOOT WITH FIFI THIS SAT NIGHT . AND THERE IS GOING TO BE ALOT OF SWINGERS GROUPS . AND WCCC WILL ALSO BE THERE . SO IF U WANT TO COME AND MEET SOMENEW FRIEND SLET US KNOW AND U HAVE NO PICS UP . I THINK IT WOULD HELP OUT ALOT IF U ADDED SOME PICS OF YALL . EVEN IF U CANT SHOW YOUR FACE . THERE IS MANY WAYS TO COVER YOUR FACE . BUT STILL SHOW THE PEOPLE WHAT U LOOK LIKE . PICS HELP OUT ALOT . IF U NEED HELP WITH PICS LET ME KNOW . I TAKE PICS AND WORK ON THEM . BUT ANY KIDA OF PICS IS BETTER THEN NONE . NAUGHTY DREAMS FREAKY KITTY