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BD/SM- Why are there no groups? - - Now this IS Terry. OMG, did I unleash a monster when I put a profile on Fetlife.com for her? Just kidding, she's an angel. Even if there might be just a touch of devil, or at least imp. Anyway, that didn't work out as well as hoped, like Evil said, most fetish groups don't swing, their events aren't usually about sex, just discussions, socializing, and demonstrations, with people doing scenes with the people they're already in a BDSM relationship with. And before someone asks me "well, why don't you just ...", it's simple. She's into some things I'm not and in that life, if you aren't really into something, even if you do know what to do and how to do it, you can't really be a very good Dom. Since the guy is supposed to make the girl happy, I did the Fetlife profile for her. The first thing a new person who's interested in some BDSM group will get told is "We don't swing", that he/she isn't going to be able to go to an event or even party and hook up with someone, that even if he/she gets invited to participate in someone's scene (it does happen occasionally) it isn't likely to culminate in actual sex. Which makes it difficult for someone who wants her BDSM to be part of actual sex. One thing though, Evil. The Fifty Shades of Gray phenomenon notwithstanding, BDSM is more secretive than swinging. Anyone who finds a swing event online can attend, unless he's a single male and it's a no single males thing. Not so with BDSM. Fetlife, for example, has more than one sub-group that sponsors events. You can find the events on the site, but you can't just go to them. You have to be sponsored by someone from that group. And not everyone in the group, people who themselves have been through the process and can attend the group's events without a sponsor, can even be a sponsor. There are always specific requirements and a process of some sort to go through to become approved to sponsor new people. There's still a stronger stigma attached to BDSM than there is to swinging, and the potential consequences to being outed are more severe, especially in a place like Utah. So the people are much more cautious than are swingers, and swingers don't exactly put up billboards ads on the highway. ~ Terry

who's spouse do you want to fuck - - Well Damn! We get busy and don't spend as much time in chat and now no one wants to sleep with us anymore. :( LOL j/k I can tell you if we were in UTAH we would be having a parties with all you hoties. Cant wait to finally get up there so we can play! I personally would love to run my fingers through TG hair while ravishing his body. MMMMMMM and that Siren. The things we would do. Lest we not forget other UT hoties Irish, UTHOTCPLEX, bigDlilT, Fun4u2 our CO swingers like capt/ally, hunt, and on and on and on. I like the blind fold game sounds like fun! S&B

Black Rings - Do Swingers really? - [quote=just4funxxx11]WE read an article recently about swingers wearing black rings to identify each other (any finger but the middle as that seems to be reserved for asexual community). Is this actually a thing that people do, or even know about? Any other ways that potential swingers identify if a normal community setting?[/quote] [img]http://www.quickmeme.com/img/5e/5e9b4d465af8dee335d2f8d42451e0ed56d373b62554a68ad658ed54888b21bc.jpg[/img] Also, please take that child out of your only photo. You guys have your faces blurred into oblivion but the bat mitzvah girl and half of your relatives are clearly visible. In fact, I see Matt there.

Valentines Swingers Dance Social-February 10th - Meet and Greet social party that is On-premise, w/no pressures/obligations - Hello All Friends, Wanted to let ya'll in on the special Valentines Motel social for this Saturday night, the 10th. Instead of having our gathering in the meeting room this time...I've rented a very nice Suite, with two bathrooms, a jacuzzi tub, and a TV to enjoy. If you will be attending, please call me to let me know you'll be there. (865)856-5784 or 898-8098. It won't be a LARGE crowd, but just enough for all to enjoy, meet and greet, and enjoy the indoor heated pool, until 10pm, so get here early, if you want to do any swimming, but you have to wear a swimsuit.....sorry folks. The suite will hold between 35/40 people, and it has a bed, only on one side, but if anyone wants to be an exhibitionist, we won't mind watching....;) If you plan on getting a room for your stay, the discounted rate is $50 plus taxes, but you must inform the front desk you're with Tammy Williams, and the Suite Gathering, on the first floor. The door donation for the party is $30 a couple, $60 select single males, and $20 for females. If your membership is still current though, you get $10 off your door donation, and from here on out, you're not required to become a member to attend, but if you want to still be able to attend the cabin get-a-ways we have, it's $60 a year to be on the list. Take Care, Play Safe, and Enjoy Life.....your friend, Tammy

Swingers - a couples only lifestyle? - Are singles considered to be swingers? - We don't care either way...but, Yolo cruises and Swingular, amongst others, have partnered together to sponsor a "Lifestyle" cruise for couples & single females only, thus excluding single men. Go figure. Oh, Hugh Hefner is still legally married! Go HEF! What about the term poly-amorous for singles? eh, who knows. Commence the a** ripping.

Something to consider - No means no online too. - [quote=MISSSMITHNSIRNEWBY]One way to [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]1.)If someone sends you a friend request over and over again and you give them the same reasonable reason why you do not want to accept it, and it is in your profile why you would not accept it, will you need to tell them no to anything and everything over and over again if you meet them in person?[/quote] One fun alternative to blocking them is to not respond to their friend request. SN[/quote] That does leave them in limbo. Really, I asked the 4th question; [i] 4.) Is not understanding no at any level along the way a major reason why some swingers do not find it easy to hook up?[/i] because we have noticed that many of the same people that we see complain about how unfair the lifestyle is toward them are the same ones that do not want to afford you any breathing room once they have your attention in the least little bit. If a few among us would just learn to relax and just let what happens happen they might actually have some success.

Friend collectors or swingers - - So in our friends list we have played we 90% of them and the other 10% I leave in the list on the hopes they will follow through. That said it’s time to clear a few out that are obviously pic collectors.

I Have A Question - Poly vs. Open - We have friends in both of those communities and dip in and out of both but don't actually consider either what we have or want. Simply: Swinging is generally, ironically, too casual for us while also having way too many cultural rules (but we fucking love your parties), We also find that while we have fun with and enjoy the company of a lot of swingers, most are culturally pretty different from us. Polyamory, as people play it, is typically far too intense for us and that community also has a lot of cultural strictures and high expectations (but we've had great parties there, too, and have made really close friends, even though we're not into Star Wars 😜). So we look for genuine friends, because that's how it started and that's how it's always been with us. We're as likely to go to coffee than get naked. And our lives are crazy busy, so we don't have a lot of time to give. But we each go out with someone probably once a week. That said, it's not necessarily the same person and actually getting together for a night out, rather than coffee or lunch, probably only happens twice a month each at most. Once a month is more common. We don't really have rules. That's kind of antithetical to how our relationship works in general. Instead, we spend focused time with each other. We go to coffee together once a week. We go to lunch together once a week. And we go out together once a week. We plan that on Saturday over coffee or ok a run. We also talk constantly. We've always been completely open with each other. Having a mutually wanted and understood open relationship makes transparency easy for us. We also like to inevitably introduce anyone were seeing regularly to each other. We also don't pry at all but like to be sure the other person's spouse or primary partner is good and that they're relationship is healthy. It sounds a lot like what people call polyamory except that it stays casual. For that reason, the other people need to realize that's all it will ever be. The flip side to that is making sure we only get involved with grounded and reliable people. We've been doing it long enough that we both have a whole set of friends we might go out with on and off. For us, regardless of their jobs, they're often artistic, musical, literary, dancers, etc..

Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - [quote=MORKANDMINDY]I think the fact that the site hasn't offered lifetime membership specials for so long has really impacted people's ability to connect with newer couples. [/quote] Contrare, Mr. Mork. Last month, our lifetime membership was $35. just sayin...

Is this one of your rules? What is it? is it fear? or something - Does everyone feel this way? -

KYM-N-TIM,

You are very bold to think you alone define swinging and what the site is. This site is a place for swingers to meet on whatever level they choose. Finding people to have sex with is one of the goals, yes. Though sex will no always happen in all meetings. One of the benefits of a meeting that doesn't "click" sexually, is friendship. So, never think you can define swinging for everyone. It's different for all of us. Libertines are free of the confines of moralism, dogma or ethics. There is no definition to this. To define it, is to cheapen it. Sex does not have to result from you encounters with people. It is a benefit of a chance meeting with a couple you and your partner (if that applies), have a sexual attraction to. You and I both know that that is not always the case. We find that making friends first, gives us our desired result.


-Don-