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ok questions for you laytonites....or anyone... - most people know my part time job... - I'm really curious too. I have run into people at parties that I knew outside the lifestyle, and ran into people in the real world that we recognized from the site. I would like to know if any research has been done as too how many couples in Utah are swingers (or a member count for this site that diversifies states) and what percentage of couples are swingers (I'm guessing it has to be higher than people generally think because of my experiences. Perhaps 20%). Anybody hear of any documented research that answers either question.
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Bunny, just a couple of thoughts on this.
First: When he picks a screen name that defines him as an object ( his dick) and not as a human, he has degraded himself in the eyes of many, especially those who seek to meet new
people and make friends. It says that he in only interested in one thing, and that pigeonholes him from the beginning.
Second: There are literally thousands of sites for singles only, obviously meaning that couples
aren't allowed. Singles can be seen by some to be interlopers, predators, or worse.
Third: Loathing or distain might be more accurate to describe the situation. Jumping on the use of hate sounds like self vicitimization. If he is so proud of what he is or has, don't play victim if someone doesn't automatically feel stimulated by him.
Fantasy Fest - - We already said we're going, but one highlight will be a C/O Sunset cruise on Wed the 27th, that based on last year is the most fun, erotic, wildest time at FF. It's being organized by a group from another site that are mostly swingers. Not much money, and only a few hours with all you can drink. I hope some of you heard about it, and are going. You could ask us for more info.
Sure hope to see some from this site, and know your from here. R & K
AZ Clubs - - [quote=JADEANDJAY]Not sure if it's still there, but when we used to live there we used to frequent Club Chameleon or Guys and Dolls.[/quote]
Both have been gone for several years now. Chameleon was one of the best in the US. I have had some spectacular times there. The owners opened a diner on the east side of the valley after their club got closed down. Even though some of the old club regulars show up there, it never turned into a pick up joint.
Somehow, Discretions & Encounters both survived in Phoenix. They are both much more low brow. I think that I know who put the screws to Chameleon, but I'm not 100% sure, so I'm not going to name names. The person that I think it was, got thrown out for being too drunk & rowdy, then went on a rampage in revenge. He was a hot rod builder with a lot of attitude. The last words that I remember from him were "you mess with the bull, you get the horns".
There are a few bars in town that host meet & greets for local Yahoo groups, but the crowds there tend to be a bit cliquish.
There is a low key party in Havisu that is very good, but it's hard to find & hard to get an invite. Havisu in general is a good place to pick up party girls if you have a boat on the lake.
Tucson has an upscale nudist resort that attracts a small amount of low key swingers. Tucson also has a honkey tonk Drink-em-up bar that is run by "god" & boasts a well equipped side room for people who are feeling frisky. Just ask "god" for the "full tour" & you will get an eyefull.
West of Phoenix, there are some mud baths & hot springs that occasionally see some playful action.
A little north of the city, near round valley, there are some hiking areas with swimming holes that sometimes attract frisky individuals.
If you are looking for kink in Phoenix, try APEX.
If you want better odds at a good swinging experience, hop a quick flight over to Vegas. It's not that far. California has even better options, but it's a bit more of a ride.
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Cool bottle and it has a LION on it.... I want....lol
Thumper
Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - He Leo-ROAR!!!!
She Gemini :z
We thought this was educational and should explain a lot about s - keep an open mind. Swingers are spiders. Each to their own unique ways! - Hahahahaha
Christian Swingers - - I recently came across some Yahoo groups where Christians who are swingers post talking about their activities. Some of these share their wives and others are into other things like B&D.
Anyone here a Christian swinger? I would like to hear comments from anyone who wants to put in their two cents worth.
Rude comments can stop members from sharing. - - You know. I have heard it said that noone ever made a monument to a critic.
If you want to post the pictures, please post them. For those who will never have a monument dedicated to them, may I say, grow up. Everyone sharing this site should be able to reasonably express themselves in words or in pictures as they so desire. Just as you don't want to be judged by others for being a swinger, neither do swingers wish to be judged by ignorant, self-absorbed other swinger critics.
Above all, acceptance of others should be our credo here on this site.
Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - We tried different ages. The young ones just don't have a clue, too immature and scared. A lot of the older ones have erection difficulties. People do tend to pick those near their own age. The biggest factor is how picky the women are, including my own wife. As a couple we have been turned down a lot because my hair is grey and thinning causing me to look older. My wife doesn't like large over weight guys or guys with short cocks, or those who shave their heads. I don't think its age that is a factor so much as overall looks. If the attraction isn't there it doesn't matter what your age is.
We like the 40 to 55 range.
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