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Joking around with the wife - - Yeah, we know about them being upside down. She said she did it like that to not make it as noticeable to the vanillas that do know about it and for the swingers that do to wonder.

Married men, solo time - What do you think? - Swingers talk a lot about commitments and open relationships. However they are in a minority position when it comes to numbers. If you are married and want a divorce and your partner will not give you one, should you be forced to have her approval to swing? It is easy for us to say do this or do that. But some things are not easy to do. I spent 10 years being emotionally separated from my wife before my divorce. Due to certain circumstances, divorce was not even a consideration during that period of my life. But for me, sex with others was not a consideration either. However, I sure understand why some men would make it an option. We all have opinions and there are no easy answers and no right or wrong ones that are set in stone. There are only the ones that are right for you. It sounds to me that you have already made up your mind though.

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - I have a few

Kitten160 - Threats - The virtual world allows people to do a bit of vetting before they agree to meet someone in the physical world and there are some advantages to that. Having a profile is a bit like fishing for friends. Sometimes the online bait looks pretty good. The downside is that anyone with a credit or debit card can buy a membership. Predators (sexual sharks) have bank accounts, credit cards, debit cards and such. If sexual predation is his or her motive of course a sexual predator would buy a membership on a swing site. Online can be like a shark cage. Sexual predators can see us, but they can't bite us unless we leave the cage. The more aggressively they attack the cage the more dangerous they must be. We hold off on phone numbers until we feel pretty comfortable. Back before the social media explosion the only way to get know about, let alone get invited to a swinger's meet and greet was to be invited by someone already involved, and usually they had to get your attendance approved, by the organizer, before the invent. So there was some added layers of protection, that were not fool proof, but often effective. Basically, people did or didn't know much about what's going on or who might be involved on the weight of their reputations. Really a good or bad reputation will still affect who you will meet or who you will connect with even today. There may well be some real legal ramifications involved for the administrators to allow a public trashing of someone's reputation, because the accusations might be true and they might be slander. What is and will always remain appropriate is to tell all your friends and acquaintances within the lifestyle about anyone you know for certain is dangerous. With all of that said, having been involved in the community for awhile, and yes we used to attend the big events from time to time, we have to say that the vast, vast, vast majority of the people we have met have been good people. Yes there have been good people we didn't see eye to eye with, and yes there have been just a few awkward moments, but still we have found that most of the swingers in the community are good people. As for the sexual sharks circling around the community, even though they may know more than we would like about where we are swimming, we can and should be protective of one another and let each other know when they are getting too close.

Bi-Sexual - lifestyle questions - Heterosexuality, homosexuality and bisexuality are all normal and healthy sexual behaviors. Perhaps the majority of men are in fact heterosexual. Majorities don't define normal or healthy but they certainly do affect what some people openly accept and or embrace. More main stream studio pornography, early on, not only accepted but glorified bisexuality in women. Straight men, who may be in the majority, are excited by women, and therefore watching two women sexually excited together, having orgasms would most probably be exciting. I think so. Most of us, perhaps, tend to accept what we enjoy, and therefore, perhaps main stream studio pornography opened the door for a larger segment of the population to accept bisexuality in women. If some straight men endorsed it and that allowed any woman with a straight significant male other, that might know that she has bisexual interest, to go ahead and admit it then it might have become more openly practiced. Bisexual female behavior perhaps became more openly common within the more sexually exploratory non-monogamous communities. In the case of swingers perhaps the "trend" even began, and perhaps still does, just a bit, to socially penalize heterosexual women.

Before you started swinging - - - Illustrator you and evil keep the forums so funny, thanks for the laughs. To get on topic however, we had no idea the fun and enjoyment or type of people that did this before becoming participants. We have been lucky because most of the swingers we have met are just great people that really enjoy sex. How simple and easy can it get.

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Swinger & 🦄 Bait - An experiment to attract swingers and unicorns. - So based on another thread and a little quick and dirty research, we decided to test out the efficacy of publicly displaying obvious signs of a person in the LS to attract other members of the LS. At an undisclosed location in Harmon’s, in the District, in South Jordan 🤫 I loaded a grocery cart with swinger swag. See attached photo. I chose to do this on a Sunday afternoon to filter out more vanillas AND wore a black ring on my right hand, wedding ring on my left. Results: A few weird looks and no LS comments. We’ll retry this at another Harmon’s in Swingerville. AKA: Draper. Help us out peeps, where is the flaw in our experiment? 🤪 More 🍍 maybe? Oh and the unicorn cereal tastes like rainbow cupcake batter. Big hit with our little girl. 🤢

We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - QUEENOFCRUNKXXX, Your mistake was that you assumed that everyone was at the same level as you. That's not a stab, but an observation. One of the first mistakes we all make is assuming that because we are all "swingers", we are all seasoned veterans of the lifestyle and have ironed out all the wrinkles in our relationships as swingers. It is unrealistic to expect everyone to be on the same page, all the time. I agree with you in that we should all strive to be open and communicate everything we can, to our significant other and the other couple, so that everyone knows where everyone stands with regard to swinger interaction. Does this always happen? No. My advice is don't be discouraged. All you can do is try again or move on. Everyone is guilty of "DRAMA", including you and me, for that matter. More often than not, those that say "Drama Free" are those that are the biggest perpetrators and perpetuators of it. Just my opinion of course. Better luck next time. -D-

What about the lifestyle didn't meet your expectations? - Preconceptions and disappointment. - I thought it might be interesting to see what preconceived ideas people had about swinging that were completely different than what they actually found in the lifestyle. As an example, this isn't one of OUR preconceptions but we've run into SO many people (yes, usually guys...single AND coupled) who have the idea that basically anyone will fuck anyone in the lifestyle. We've encountered a large number of swingers over the years who seem to believe that the ONLY commonalities necessary for a swinging connection is the simple fact that we're all swingers. Any other factors are, apparently, moot. What things did YOU find in the lifestyle that didn't mesh with what you thought the lifestyle was all about? Did you think it would all be one big wild orgy? Or did you imagine that there were myriad unicorns ready, willing, and able to fuck you at the drop of a hat? [em]Emo_49[/em]