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New Forum Rules - No Censorship, No Moderation, Just a Few Rules -

Rob, The Don

Very good move. Most popular public forums on the web have moderators that keep it above the belt. I am a "levels of force" kinda person. I usually keep it in the "smack talk" region until someone pulls out the big guns and says something that totally insults me, my service to the country, my way of life etc. Then I think it's fair to defend myself. I was never one to tolerate bullies Forum moderation is a good think as long as you are not dinged on everything you say. If done in moderation itself, I think it's key in a happy community. After all, not all of us will agree all of the time. Any good community has a police system in place. Some of us do not hold themselves to a moral believe system (dogma). What it "proper etiquette" to some, may not be to others. We are a culturally & sexually diverse, multi-faceted, large gamut of unique individuals. Each of us even differ from our spouses/significant others (if that applies). Can you you say you never argue with your spouse? Can you say you have never said anything brash to anyone? Were you apologetic to those you did not like? I think most reasonable individuals would say yes to most of those and no to the last one. What is more likely, is that they chose to avoid contact with that person. Everyone here has a choice to involve themselves in the conversations that happen here. For instance, if you were to post in a "GAY MARRIAGE" thread and post your opinion as to why an adult of clear mind and total consent, should not be allowed to enter into legal marriage with another adult of any sex, they so chose because of your own personal moral system. You are then adamant about holding to you view no matter how many time you are told that there is a seperation of church and state and that the "sanctity of marriage, between a man and a woman" is that of religious code and does not apply to the legal system, as it is unconstitutional. Yet you still wish to force your law on the rest of society because your upbringing told you that homosexuality is wrong and that marriage is not meant for gays. If this applies to you, then you are not reasonable and the only way I wish to deal with unreasonable people is to tell them to fuck off. I am saying you don't have the right to avoid homosexual marriage for youself? NO! I am saying you don't have the right to choose for others. I guess what I am saying is that many of you don't want to hear anyone say anything that differs from your own little world, yet you are swingers. Many of you think one -way and don't want to hear something that turns your belief system on it's head. If you can not respect or tolerate diversity I have no respect for you. I will not respect your beliefs, rights or opinions if you will not afford everyone else the same. YOU REAP WHAT YOU SEW. I vow, from hence forth, to do my best to be civil to everyone here. I expect the same from all of you. I can play nice with you, if you play nice with me. Remember, if you disrespect me, I will definetly return the courtesy :-) Thanks Rob. Thank you for proving that forum moderation can be a good thing.

-Don- "Ich habe einen kleinen Vogel in meinem Kopf."

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Your site "support"... - SUCKS! - Seriously? This is a swinger site run by swingers...the most notoriously flaky group of attention deficit disorder social misfits in modern culture. That this IRL is actually functional, albeit, not to your standards, is a miracle that I'm not about to diminish in any way, shape, or form. You want predictable dependability...go to Match.com My God, the entire premise of this lifestyle is unpredictable, largely random encounters with strangers...but you are obsessed with the process being neat and orderly?

City Cracking Down On Sex Parties - - Adam, It's acceptable to be intolerant of bigotry and oppression. ;) As for your lengthy rant, sorry dude you rambled too long. I lost interest. Try to stick to one idea at a time. I mean that with respect and no offense. It's just too difficult to reply to all of that, when it's so all over the place like that. Flatlander, I am not the one arguing. LOL! Spare me your personal remarks. You don't know me. Again, the article says that the city is trying to find anything they can to shut them down. That tells me that they are trying to find any excuse to shut them down. If parking were the only issue, the remedy would be simple. Park everyone remotely in a central location and VAN them in. I don't think it's the only issue. The only other issue is moral and where do morals come from??? Here's a little quote from the article: "When I bought my house, I didn't think I'd be living next to a massage parlor and brothel." What would it matter if there was a brothel or massage parlor in a neighborhood? Prostitution is wrong because Christians say it's wrong. In countries where Christianity isn't allowed to taint government, they have redlight districts. There is plenty of evidence in the article that points at the religious motivation. Another quote for ya.


"After Wood said he complained, the city put up no-parking signs in front of his house and the Cherry Pit. But that hasn't kept visitors away. The Duncanville City Council is set to vote on an ordinance that would declare the Cherry Pit and other clubs like it illegal and a public nuisance. The city said the problem is the Cherry Pit promotes the activity on its Web site. If the new ordinance passes, when the city finds a sex club is advertised or promoted, then officials will have a system in place to shut it down."
It appears no parking didn't stop the swingers, so they are trying to make the clubs illegal. In other words. Parking wasn't the problem. The swingers found ways to get there without parking. What else would the city's motive be? I'm a child for challenging your position??? What am I not allowed to disagree with you??? -D-

Barack Hussein Obama - Political.. I think - Two points: 1. To blame Christianity because of the idiotic few is absurd and shallow. If that is our basis for judgment, then we must say all swingers are awful because some cheat on their spouses, or all children are bad because a few bully. Thinking Christianity is the downfall of anything is really sad. Please think bigger! 2. Those who put out stupid misleading information about either candidate in desperate untruths are also sad in my book. I just hope people are smarter in this country than they were the last two presidential elections!

Memphis Swingers Club - Memphis Swingers - That was my first ever experience in the lifestyle, many many years ago. It's a small off premises place, with a byob bar I was terrified and they made me feel very, very welcome. It's (or it was) a small group but they're exceptionally nice people

Valentines Swingers Dance Social-February 10th - Meet and Greet social party that is On-premise, w/no pressures/obligations - Hello All Friends, Wanted to let ya'll in on the special Valentines Motel social for this Saturday night, the 10th. Instead of having our gathering in the meeting room this time...I've rented a very nice Suite, with two bathrooms, a jacuzzi tub, and a TV to enjoy. If you will be attending, please call me to let me know you'll be there. (865)856-5784 or 898-8098. It won't be a LARGE crowd, but just enough for all to enjoy, meet and greet, and enjoy the indoor heated pool, until 10pm, so get here early, if you want to do any swimming, but you have to wear a swimsuit.....sorry folks. The suite will hold between 35/40 people, and it has a bed, only on one side, but if anyone wants to be an exhibitionist, we won't mind watching....;) If you plan on getting a room for your stay, the discounted rate is $50 plus taxes, but you must inform the front desk you're with Tammy Williams, and the Suite Gathering, on the first floor. The door donation for the party is $30 a couple, $60 select single males, and $20 for females. If your membership is still current though, you get $10 off your door donation, and from here on out, you're not required to become a member to attend, but if you want to still be able to attend the cabin get-a-ways we have, it's $60 a year to be on the list. Take Care, Play Safe, and Enjoy Life.....your friend, Tammy

single men - - I'm gonna toss my 2 cents in here just because I happen to have spare change .. EASTTENNCPL hit the nail pretty much on the head with their statement to not expect anything; but it really does apply more to single men than others. While it is true that there are overwhelmingly more single male profiles here than others, there are actually underwhelmingly few 'active' single males. By 'active' I mean: Socializes openly with others (men, women, and couples alike), participates in forums (other than to complain about how single males are treated), frequents the chat room (other than just to hit on pretty women), and/or are actively involved in swinging community events. Most of these things are really just a simple matter of being there without any expectations. On the flip side, every couple and single female user on here knows that to openly seek single males is an invitation to a torrent of spam. By spam I mean unwanted communications, i.e.: anonymous friend requests, emailed cock-shot pics, etc etc .. which is the ultimate source of the single male stigma. They instead resort to browsing through profiles and responding to what's pretty, only to receive a jack-ass in reply. The problem seems to stem from the perception that this is a 'hook up' site. When treated as such, it tends to behave as such. In the sense of Supply; what we end up with is a population of potential quality single male members who are squelched and masked by a tidal wave of idiocy. Then in the sense of Demand; we end up with a population of jilted single male seekers who are almost afraid to put forth active effort in seeking those members who readily meet their desires. The solution lies in utilizing the site for what it is: a social networking site. It's much like Facebook, MySpace, or LinkedIn. The difference is that this site's specialization is Swingers. You get more value out of a social networking site by being .. 'social'. If you're social you tend to be actively involved. When you're actively involved, you tend to get noticed. When you start to get noticed.. well, Problem meet Solution. Sorry for the novella.. like I said, had some spare change.. Alex

Utah Soft Swappers meet and great - Button up 134 Pierpont, Salt Lake City - [quote=Smartflirts]Recon knows what’s up. They have been around a while and they are trolling you. LOL. Our profile talks a little about softswap and how some fullswap couples can be douchebags to those who don’t full swap. Some of those douchebags WISH they had been more open and cool to us when we first started. The truth is the LS is and should be just fun. No matter your level of play or even no play and just social fun...social fun, flirting, and being open and dressing sexy is our favorite thing. Swapping, at any level, is great as is any sexual experience with the RIGHT people. It’s all the other fun stuff that surrounds those experiences that really makes it fun.[/quote] Fwiw, We know RECON. We've actually met once or twice IRL and know his (her?) sense of humor. In fact, we even know the origin of their screen name. It's, like, short for 'recondition' or 'reconstruction' or 'recontour' or something like that. Anyway, I just thought I would use his/her acerbic comment as a teaching moment to help anyone new to the scene with some of the jargon or slang, if you will, that swingers use so that they'll know which tab (usually A) goes into which slot (usually B)...and when. Nobody ever told us this valuable insider info when we were noobs and we made a LOT of swinger faux pas. We were taking off our clothes at wholly inappropriate times (and places), tabs were going into the wrong slots (often even into the wrong genders!), dogs and cats were sleeping together...it was MAYHEM. It took us many years to figure it all out on our own and by the time we actually did figure it out we were old and decrepit and nobody wanted to swap (soft OR hard) with us anymore. Now all we're left with is ULTRA soft swap which usually involves using sock puppets, pantomiming sex, while we watch another couple...also using their own sock puppets. It's quite sad and pathetic. [img]https://www.askideas.com/media/25/They-Love-To-Get-Fisted-Funny-Sock-Puppets.jpg[/img]

Any success on this site? - So far not getting results. Any suggestions? - We are brand new to this as well (Just a few months in)... A few things I can tell you BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCES: 1) A number of the profiles on here are fake. Especially true of the extraordinarily good looking people. It's a tactic used by the management of the site to convince people to join the site and/or buy memberships. (It's not an uncommon tactic of ANY dating site, or swingers site, by the way). But just know that when you send a note off to that ridiculously gorgeous couple with the amazing profile -- they're probably not real. Also note that almost every photo on this site is hand-picked, and VERY VEW of them are a good representation of what the couple ACTUALLY looks like. (9 times out of 10, we've met the couple and said "yeah, they look NOTHING like their photo".) Either the photos are REALLLLLY old, they were taken at a very convenient angle, or they're blurred so much you can't tell WHAT you're looking at..... If you rely solely on photos, you're going to be very disappointed. 2) People in the swinging community are generally interested in people who have similar body-types and similar ages. (I don't want to debate whether this is right or wrong, but it's, generally speaking, a fact). A moderately overweight couple in their 40's is going to have the best chance at hooking up with another moderately overweight couple in their 40's. If you try to go "up", the other couple is probably not going to be interested. If you try to go "down", the other couple is likely to feel a little intimidated. Remember, we're all here to fulfill lustful passions, so understanding where you fit in on the hotness scale is sort of critical if you're going to have success. 3) The site itself is actually a really crappy way to meet people. It's almost impossible to tell if you'll like another couple based on (bad) photos and a profile. Most people are flakey about returning emails, or worse, about showing up. Often times you'll get some response from one person, who then shows your photos to their spouse, who veto's the whole thing -- and they stop communicating. You can REALLY spin your wheels hard if this site is your only source of attempted hookups. 4) Since exchanging emails and photos with other couples on the site is a bad way to meet people, the GOOD way to meet people is to go the parties, the meet & greets, and the other events. This is where you have the best chance of "speed dating" other couples.. where you can quickly judge each other's personalities, looks, etc. 5) The ladies are in charge. Period. You will have far more luck if the lady half of you is doing the communicating and the flirting. We DESPERATELY wish it was easier to meet people on the site.... We've had one or two great experiences, but mostly just dead ends and flakes. =( However, we've had VERY good success at the in-person events.

Now that Sandy Station is closed for good... - - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]In the meantime, we have discovered, that albeit they are not swingers hangouts, a couple can get lucky at Piper Down, the Elixir Lounge, Fats Grill and the downtown Sheraton's bar. Try as we might we always, always strike out at the BYU Creamery. [/quote] Perhaps you're just using the wrong approach at the "Y" ice cream factory. [img]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/e8/8d/7a/e88d7abfe5331bc481be014ef6810c09.jpg[/img]

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