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is soft swap swinging??? - -

YOUNGANDSEXY,

Anyone who tells you that soft swap is not swinging, is not a swinger. They are trying to oppress you with their idea of sex and relations with others. That in itself goes defies the definition of swinger. So just say fuck those fuckin fuckers. They are not worth your time. Vaginal intercourse with a stranger, does not make a swinger. If that were true, then all prostitutes are swingers. If it were me, I would say, "I'll full swap if I can take a morning shit in your fuckin mouth." Be sure to tell them they're not true swingers unless they fully open up to you. Lay on the pressure. See how they fucking like it. I hate fuckin' people that use snakey tactics and pressure.


-Don-

Salt Lake and surrounding area couples for couples - Looking to meet other swingers - You sound like a couple my gf and I would like to get to know. My kik is sirlixalot65 hers damngina71.

cuckold couple - Just curious - Cuckolding usually refers to a humiliation element - a woman is with another man while husband or bf gets off on being shamed, humiliated, knowing she is with someone else, hearing how much better or bigger they were, etc. It's fetish that some enjoy. Not something I would enjoy personally. There's also 'hotwife', which is more where the man enjoys seeing or hearing about her with other men, seeing her pleasure, seeing how desirable she is, aroused by the sight or hearing about it more from pride and appreciation of her sexuality, beauty and pleasure. This can be at different levels - from merely bragging about a sexy wife and having men acknowledge that, to her flirting and teasing other men but always coming back to him, to minor or major sexual adventures. 'Cuckolding' is usually seen with a derogatory and humiliating element as a fetish, while 'hotwife' is pridefully showing off or sharing. Although, both terms are used interchangeably at times, they have a different connotation. There's also cuckquean - a woman who enjoys her man being with other women coupled with derogatory or humiliating elements. There's probably a male version of 'hotwife' - 'sexyhusband'? - but I'm not aware of any particular term that's popular. Personally, I get the hotwife/sexyhusband idea much better. We both take pride knowing we're desirable to others and yet committed to each other. That's probably the general feeling most swingers have. Cuckold/cuckquean isn't a necessarily a bad thing (if both are into it), it works for some people, but many find the humiliation element not enticing.

We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - Well the first and biggest thing i can see is communication, especially between the couples before they play. I dont know why its so hard to ask your partner whether it be a girl or guy if this is ok and if not just let them know. Your partner needs to know you are here together to expand your experiences and for them, not so you can be selfish and have it all for yourself. I dont know why someone would put themselves in a situation they know from the get-go that they are gunna get jealous about. I mean your not stupid you know if your a jealous person either talk with your partner about it or dont do it. I think the stupid male ego comes into play alot hence why you see it being us guys that start the drama. Ow is he bigger than me, ow is he better than me, ow is she gunna be thinking of him when we have sex, I mean get over yourself!!!! I saw a topic in one of the forums here bout dick size and couldnt believe how many guys are worried bout it. Personally I could care less my woman is with me cause she loves me, its a mutual agreement that we are in this lifestyle not a onesided decision. I am sorry that you had the bad experience but dont blame yourself and roll with it not all of us are like that. As someone already said body language is a HUGE tell tale sign.

Mon chalet - Swingers motel - Was there other couple there interested in playing?

Sensitivities - a paradox? - I'm actually just as opinionated in life. The only thing that is different here is that I am surrounded by tons of thin-skinned and/or "conservative" swingers, where as in real life, if you will, I don't associate or surround myself with them. If I wish to participate in the forum, I am forced to accept everyone's contribution no matter how contradictory to the activities of the website or what some call "the lifestyle". In real life, I just walk away from the bullshit and not associate with it. I do not surround myself with people that promote sexual freedom and wish to stifle religious freedom or lack thereof or stand for idealogy or dogma that of an oppressor. As far as your study of internet ego, I would love to see this paper. Which doctor of psycology/sociology performed it?? What were the controls and in what environment? I would like to say that there are no "short comings" in my life, I just call bullshit when I see it and there is a ton of thin skinned whiners that I've learned to avoid for the sake of the community and my sanity, as I cannot stand having the same repetitive arguments with the same moronic crowd. In fact I would love to see that study of yours, shoot it to me in an email or post it here for all of us. I have no issues telling someone to fuck off in life either. In fact, I promote standing up for what you believe, regardless of what the mainstream thinks. You can ask anyone who knows me on a personal level that my passions are politics, atheism and libertinism. Hell, ask the Davis County School District how I deal with their religious zealotry, hypocrisy, intolerance of expression and the lack of seperation of church and state in Utah (in the Country for that matter). I do not hide who I am. It is many in this "lifestyle" that hide who they are for fear of persecution... Don't get me wrong though, I do agree with the theory that some people become someone who they are not, when on the internet. I know a ton of "swingers" that put on an act that they are these huge swingers that love to play couple on couple and when you get them two on two, the truth comes out and their only girl-on-girl because either the man is insecure or the woman is a closet lesbian. Either way, I agree with you. There are a lot of fakes. ;) -D- P.S. Now I will admit to puposefully bringing up topics to get shit stirred up. I mean look at this forum as of late. We're right back to talking about the same boring bullshit. NO THANKS!

Why are people afraid to give out their email address - - Ohhh...I forgot to mention: How very timely things can be sometimes....just recently, on another website (for swingers), I had given a new contact our email address. I did this at his request (a single male), so he could send pictures. He did... ...what he sent was an email that - I really could only guess why - was forwarded not less than 16 times. Apparently, our new found friend has been very busy. Now, I'm sure you've all seen the emails where the subject line is FWD:FWD:FWD:RE: (etc, etc...) I've never realized anyone could be thoughtless enough to simply forward an email with pics to us, when the same email has been forwarded to 16 other people. And it's all right there, "in the clear" so to speak, in his email. Now, think about this: Here's a guy who is telling us he's sincerely interested in her, how he's only interested in making friends and not the typical wham-bam kinda thing. Funny, he seems to cover a lotta ground for someone so sincere. All in the past week or so, I might add. It gets better: at some point...I don't know, maybe he's got two machines and was bouncing pics between them, or whatever...he's also unwittingly included a different email address for himself (which, by the way, told us right away he's not been honest about his name). He's put his own, 'real' email address in there as well! But that's not the part that really relates to the subject of this thread. What does relate is the issue of emails, making rounds you can't even imagine, because of one careless person. I made the mistake of trusting this person - and imagine my horror when I saw how careful he was with the other 16 people's info in there...what if some were completely unaware he was doing that? I bet they are! And now, HE'S GOT OUR EMAIL ADDRESS!!! How many of his emails to others will have our address in it? Ever hear of 'social engineering'? Well, if you haven't, do some research. This is how talented computer people can take a little shred of info about you from here, and a little from there, and next thing you know, your private affairs aren't so private. Sure, we're only talking about swinging sites, right? But, didn't someone above mention work email? Tell me no one ever got the two mixed up - or that no one ever forwarded your email - the one you sent in total confidence - to their work address, intentionally or unwittingly!! Of the 16 email addresses right there in his email, 13 were Yahoo email addresses...now, it's a hop, skip and jump over to their profiles - and now I know even more about the people our friend listed in his email. Interesting to see who all he's been in touch with. Ohhh, by the way? Two of them were crossdressers, says so right there in their Yahoo profiles. What if that somehow found its way to where someone worked? I'll tell you what, I know how these people - the 'social engineers' - go about finding out all sorts of stuff. It so happens I'm not into messing with people like that, or I could have a field day with this stuff. I'm not interested in it, but what if I were? Someone who was a real low-life could start contacting these people, saying things like "I know you've been in touch with X"...or they try to play a confidence game, by dropping names picked up from various sources: "Hey Jimmy told me you're..." after seeing an email from "James" so-and-so. There are countless variations, but these people are relentless - and they're not stupid! Think it doesn't happen? Think again. Every word of what I say above is absolutely true. May not sound like much until you consider all the possible ways it could be exploited. And it happened, just about the time I took interest in this thread. So, I hope this little story helps illustrate my point. I hope it helps answer the original question; *This* is why people are reluctant to give out email addresses. And, maybe they damn well should be.

Do women throw themselves at married men? - - For those of you that would like a quick and concise answer the the OP's question I would offer the following: NO!! For the benefit of the one insomniac that wants to read a little more I will offer the following: Having been married to only one woman for over thirty years and with the two of us having become swingers in the last 9 years I have pondered and discussed this very subject or something nigh unto it with Mrs. Delicious. In my experience few intelligent women, with some self esteem, throw themselves at men married or otherwise. Women and men do develop fondness and feelings for people they get to know and that can grow to esteem and maybe even desire. Happily married men that are friendly and not a rake hitting on every girl around seem safe because they are approachable without hearing the tired old come on lines. A man that can socially interact with attractive women without sexually harassing them enjoys a lot of advantages. Therefore women in the work place or other social venues tend to get to know just such men. There are all sorts of intimacies, kindnesses and appreciations that men and women need and desire from each other that are not sexual or at least overtly sexual. People that are good at sincerely giving these sorts of reassurances and moments of recognition and appreciation to others tend to make friends and friendships can sometimes become flirtatious and flirtatious friendships can become important and lead to fantasy and so on and so forth and can eventually escalate into sexual intimacy if both sides are headed down the same pathway. This is particularly true if someone discovers just such a friendship and their relationship with their significant other has digressed to a point that the relationship has become mostly significantly combative. In the case that the married man is actually happily married and not willing to cheat then it would just remain a fantasy. So no, I do not believe that women throw themselves at married men but yes I believe women do fall into fantasy and even into love with married men and the same can be said for men smitten with a married lady with which they have become friends. I have had female friends over the course of many years of being married and of being alive and out there in the world develop a crush on me and a few have expressed a desire to have an affair. Usually it has been a woman in a relationship that had become verbally combative. No I never have had any such affair. The only sex outside of marriage for me occurs as a swinger with my dear wife fully aware and usually present. We are frankly very much paired up as a couple but just not quite monogamous. I was never and I still am not the aggressive guy with the hard press come on lines. Being a gentleman that opens doors can open a few doors unintentionally over the course of a lifetime. In the swing world all the rules change to some extent in that sex is usually not pursued out of a desire to physically express love and romance toward someone that is in your mind and in your heart throughout the day and follows you into your dreams. In pursuit of swing sex women will possibly or probably be more focused on the sexual desire rather than the emotional desire to express sexually toward someone special. Therefore come on lines may well be appreciated so long as the lady thinks the guy with the lines might be really good in bed. There a few women single or married that are on the sexual prowl 24/7/365 kind of like some single guys in a swing site (That was a joke

Swingers in Draper cause Super Dell to speed - - OMG! That is SO FUCKING FUNNY!!!! ROTHLMAO!!!! If anyone doubts the kind of fucking Mormon nutjobs we have to deal with in Utah just take a good look at this kook! Evil

Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - [quote=LOOKIN4FUN369]But a person can change there birthday on swingular and your system will allow them to purchase tickets so there not really a full proof way to keep the older from buying tickets [/quote] That's right... although "took the money and ran" still seems a bit harsh, considering I don't generate any sort of profit on our events. (Believe me, we debated long and hard about getting involved in an event that required a ticket... but... private venue means it's gotta be paid for). We have no interest in making money off the lifestyle community. Our only goal is to create fun events where people can easily meet others. For the record, every time we've ever hosted an event, I come out in the red. This one will be no exception. I consider it my contribution to the lifestyle community. More to the topic..... If someone wants to lie about their age to get into a Young Swingers party... there's nothing stopping them. Their likelihood of getting laid using that approach, however, is pretty close to zero. =)