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Extramarital Affairs and the Lifestyle - Where do you stand? - **Bottom line here is can we just stop all the finger pointing, labeling, and judging? Morals are a personal thing and eveyone is entitled to theirs and I\'m of the mind set...don\'t force yours down my throat and I won\'t force mind down yours.**
Wrong. No one is interested in passing judgement here. Simply stating the facts as they are.
Also, I think that some of us have returned to the cheating vs swingnig morality issue that we agreed earlier was NOT the intended direction this thread was going in. The issue IS a moral one, as someone pointed out. However it isnt whether or not CHEATING is the same as SWINGING.
Since the thread has been joined by so many other now (AND I THANK YOU GUYS FOR STEPPING UP AND SHARING!) several differing points of view have emerged.
Some \"vanilla\" or traditional people attempt to convince their mates to swing (MALE OR FEMALE) and for whatever eason that partner says NO. That person can not accept this answer for whatever reason, and decides it is worth risking everything they hold dear to swing.
We have explored that.
On the other hand, other \"vanilla\" people HAVE NEVER, AND WOULD NEVER EVEN ATTEMPT TO BROACH THE SUBJECT TO THEIR MATES. For fear of hearing NO, for fear of divorce...whatever...These same people, as one of our single gentleman pointed out...would look down upon us and label us sinners for being \"SWINGERS\" and all that they quite incorrectly feel that entails, and then in the same breath, go out and CHEAT on their mates. (I know one where she cheated on her husband with the pasteur of their church!)
Cheating is actually more accpetable than swinging to a LOT of \"vanilla\" people. To share their mate, agree on the format, and practice an open dialogue about it is unthinkable.
To cheat is not.
>>TO ADDRESS THE CHEATING SWINGER ISSUE AGAIN<<
This was never meant to single out you single guys out there, and I am not going to defend this post, or our stand on it. If you have read our profile, you should understand that we date single men and women almost exclusively! We just prefer to know the TRUTH about your situation, and beleive it or not, in this lifestyle...that is a tall order.
As someone else said, that is a choice each of you has to make. We would prefer to know the truth about your situation so that we can decide to say NO for fear of creating hurt feelings and contributing to the end of a relationship that we are not even a part of. My mind will not allow me to justify what my heart knows to be just plain wrong.
Luvbugs!
;)
Meet and Greet - - [align=center][/align]
Florida Swing Party
San Carlos Lounge
March 11, 2011
The Friendly Members Club
A no pressure evening of fun!
Meet new friends and make your promises, or meet at the hotel down the street :)
Come to 18911 S. Tamiami Trail, Fort Myers (41), San Carlos Lounge from
9:00 p.m. till 1:30 a.m.
This is a straight bar and It's Ok To Be Sexy! Sexy is fine in public, nude is not:)
This is not like many other Meet and Greets you may go to. When you get there, come up to the DJ and tell him you are here for the party. Kimi will introduce you to the other swingers in the room so you won't have to sit there and try to guess who else may be in the LifeStyle :)
Warning: They like their music loud at San Carlos, and smoking is allowed.
We hope you will all sit at a large table to get to know each other! We'll be playing all genres of music and requests are welcomed as always!
Drinks are very reasonable, and no cover charge, but please don't drink and drive. Come out to party and dance with us!
If you want to get a motel room, the Springs Resort is nearby....only a couple minutes north of San Carlos Lounge. This is one of the motels we used to have our parties. Go to http://www.thespringsresort.com/ for all info.
Or.....Upgrades:
Holiday Inn Express Approx. 5.6 miles from San Carlos Lounge on I-75 at exit 123.
Hampton Inn Suites Approx. 5.6 miles from San Carlos Lounge on I-75 at exit 123.
Embassy Suites, Hilton Approx. 5.6 miles from San Carlos Lounge on I-75 at exit 123.
Tooele swingers party 2 - Doing our second party - [quote=NIPPLESNNUGGETS]Date?[/quote]
Nipplesnuggets: Just an FYI, your profile picture is SMALL. Looks like you uploaded a thumbnail by mistake.
Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Where do you get the codes from so I would like to go there one of these times even if it does cost
Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - It is probably obvious from our screenname, but we are both cancers.
Vanilla cruise finder - - We are going on the Harmony of the seas out of Fort Lauderdale on November 25th and was wondering the same thing.....Come on people lets make this a "swingers" cruise.
Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - As a retired soldier - 20 years and two wars (in various Special Forces and Infantry units) it's always nice to hear appreciative comments...it wasn't always that way...
Observations from the other side of the room - Some unsolicited advice - [quote=EVILDOERS]All good advice. You should give seminars to the GAZILLIONS of single males who think female swingers are nymphomaniac, wanton sluts who will fuck anyone, any time, anywhere and that their husbands/partners are pathetic, impotent cucks who don't know how to please their partners and need a "real" man to satisfy their wives/girlfriends. You could make BANK teaching the utterly clueless how to act like a gentleman and do a service to the lifestyle by helping to weed out the twatwaffles who have no business even ATTEMPTING to enter a lifestyle they know nothing about and should leave immediately![/quote]
That's a really good idea! I am no authority but I agree that Utah guys have a bad reputation. I have heard similar stories from friends on vanilla dating sites where the guy just wants a one night stand.
I am glad that my post was read and responded to.
I agree that my comments are common sense as well. Unfortunately, common sense isn't all that common.
Any suggestions on what to name my seminar?
Moab Utah - Swingers in Moab - [quote=Stokedtopoke]Castle valley! Did you hit the whole enchilada? We love to ride down there...bikes and each other ;)[/quote]
We rode whole enchilada starting at Kokopelli, Mag 7, and Klondike.
An out of this world (or state) encounter - swinging parties - I love you ABC Women you described utah parties very well. You are AWESOME!!!
We have had soooo much fun and we are non drama people. However most parties have one or two that make it not as fun but you chose to respond how you want. Looks do not matter as much to us. We just like having a good time. That is what I hope everyone is trying to do. We enjoy all the parties soooo far keep them coming!!! goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo swingers!!!!
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