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KSL swing story - - The story was terribley produced. Little to no research. As I said in the thread leading up to KSL being at the Club 90 party, they decided what story they were going to write before they even put pen to paper, and they were not going to let the truth get in the way of their story.
I particularily liked the way it played women to be victims in the Lifestyle, especially when everyone knows it is women that really run the show and have the biggest say-so in who a couple plays with. Also, in surveys of swingers when asked "Who's idea was it to start swinging?" 34% of the time it was the wife that first brought it up. Sure, men still accounted for 54% of the survey (the rest couldn't remember who's idea it was originally), but it's not the men wanting sex with other women and drawing their poor defenseless wife into the lurid underground world of wife swapping to do it. Hell, anyone who's been around it for a while knows it's more "husband swapping" anyway. :p
I've been following the comments on KSL's website, and these people have no life. They wait to watch the news every night and then add their two cents to every subject. None of them have any idea what they are talking about. As Ozzie Guillen says about arm chair coaches and sportscasters "the farther you sit from the plate the smarter you think you are." LMAO But all the comments are along the same lines, the evil cheating husband luring his innocent, unsuspecting wife into the seedy underworld.
Then you get the fake profile they put up and within "six days, 70 married men, most from Utah, ask to start a fling." LMAO Damn, how many couples get emails every day from "free member" married men looking to cheat? We get at least one a day. The same old story over and over: Married Mormon family man who says "I love my wife but she doesn't like sex". These people need to look within themselves. We're not the problem, they are. Plus, most of us won't play with cheaters and after a time we've become very adept at sniffing them out. My wife gets at least one married Mormon man a day sending her an IM on her personal Yahoo! Messenger ID, and they find her in the Yahoo! directory (not Yahoo! Personals, the directory). They just go through looking for women online to contact. They don't know she is a swinger. Her Yahoo! profile is innocent as can be. If they are going to cheat they will find a way, with or without swingers.
Wow... I'd love to say this on KSL's site, but like fun4usxx said, it will just add fuel to the fire and you can't win. You can't fix stupid.
Mr. Caress4u
Friend collectors or swingers - - We are more hobbyists or friend collectors than DTF type. Count us as guilty.
Vegan lifestyle - Plant based playmates - [quote=Yummycpl]Now we are debating on a swingers website? Lame! 🤣[/quote]
🤔💡I don't think a question qualifies as a debate. I'm curious too about your data. Do you happen to have a link?
And BTW. There are other reasons people choose to be vegan or vegetarian besides not wanting to contribute to the killing of animals.
Invatation to swingers. - open letter against Dr. Phil - Who gives a rats ass what they say, Live and let live
Another Swingers Show on TV - - So it's on again tomorrow. We're DVRing it again. It's nice not to have to worry about kids looking at what we have recorded!!! Guess we may have to have some of our friends over to watch it!!![em]Emo_12[/em]
courtesy - dates and communication - When we started swinging there was no internet....not like today where it takes a few seconds to find someone you want to fuck and shoot off an email or a friend request. We had to find a magazine with ads for swingers (at an adult book store), write a letter, probably include a Polaroid pic with the letter and mail it and wait for a reply...which didn't always come. So I guess we kind of were conditioned to not really worry about it too much especially once internet swinging happened and it didn't take so much work to reach out. Now it takes so little effort to contact potential playmates that many people often spam out large numbers of emails in a shotgun approach or do the same with friend requests. We've, sadly, gotten to the point in our swinging career where we DON'T respond to blind friend requests or emails that are obviously sent to multiple people (no mention specifically of us or our profile). We used to respond but found that at least half the time we then got no response in return so we assumed the senders got a BBD (bigger, better deal) and were no longer interested. We really don't get our panties in a wad over it. I kind of look at it like an unsolicited spam email from someone wanting to clean my carpets. I really don't feel a great need to respond even though it would be the POLITE thing to do. Although I am seriously considering writing back to that Nigerian prince who wants to give me a million bucks. [em]Emo_67[/em]
That said, blowing someone off after making plans to meet is a douchecopter move and (barring a REALLY good excuse proffered in a timely manner) will quckly get someone on our permanent no fly list. Yup, we're assholes that way. [em]Emo_84[/em]
Getting Threesomes - - Secrets hide away in Orlando FL is a really good swingers private club there's crazy sex partying going on every where ..
LDS Swingers Survey - Will any former/active LDS swingers take my survey? - done
Which Motorcycle Survey? - In the market and want your opinion... - [quote=242]Oh, I have strong thoughts on this subject folks. And I am really doing my homework and shopping very thoroughly. I'm taking my time because I won't be buying until Feb/Mar at the earliest. And I've been watching the Can-Am develop over the past 3 years now. One of our nearby dealers carries them alongside Big Dog Choppers and Suzuki. Interesting line-up. It's not that what others think will make my decision or unduely influence it, but I am interested in reading others' opinions and thoughts to compare to my own. And I'm checking with a few different demographic groups. Let's face it: swingers tend to march to the beat of their own drum more than most folks! LOL I brought up the "cool factor" and image stuff in the context of what our own perceptions are of bike culture. I mentioned that we are cruiser types, not crotch-rocket people. I wear western style riding boots and a black leather jacket. But my jacket has armor inserts, all the modern upgrades, and even reflective piping on a traditional cruiser jacket frame. I wear a Bell military-style open face helmet and goggles. My wife rides a blacked out (Raven) 2011 Star Stryker. So we sort of blend the old w/the new a bit. I guess I'm hesitant about the style change. Thanks for the input and please keep it coming. You're helping me cogitate. LOL[/quote]
Cogitate?
I read somewhere that they've come up with a cure for that in the Netherlands.
South End - Is the secret milf game a faux? - So, after several months here's my results. Connecting through swingular mail after CLOSELY reading a couples profile does lead to results BUT only if after a few email exchanges, including a friend request, leads to an exchange of phone numbers. Success has been only through connecting with husband who screens for wife. Switching over to another email server like gmail at the request of the couple is a waste of time. Just and endless stream of BS. I presume the long string is not accessible by swingular, who knows. Also, couples (male half) has read my profile and connected directly. Same thing a quick exchange of phone numbers. Meet ups this way have all be positive with satisfaction all around.
Lastly, I want to thank those couples who have replied back, even when the reply is "no you're not a fit" this is respectful and what I would expect from serious swingers.
Cheers,
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