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Vanilla Party pickups - Vanilla Party pickups - Hi, Just curious about the reality of picking up a single female or a couple at a vanilla party gathering? Not meeting actual swingers at the party and then going from there, but going to the party and meeting someone new and playing with them? Does it really happen, or is it just in the movies? :)

what the f#%@ was he thinking? - swingers still deserve respect - I have to agree. Unfortunately it is guys like that that make even just dating almost impossible for us "nice guys". It ruins it for men like me. Guys like that think they are such a gift. Far from it! Didn't your parents teach you clowns some Manners? On a lighter note, there are still some good classy people out there, not just for the "lifestyle", but in general socially. Keep the faith folks, you will find those good ones and want to keep them as long time friends and associates. Take care all and have a wonderful Independance Day!

Here's something Ive been curious about - - Congrats on 10 years in the lifestyle, SLOW. We're old timers as well and have been doing this off and on since shortly after we got married. Over 25 years now! So I guess I can sort of see both points of view and contrary to the current rather negative societal attitude towards political correctness I have no trouble being firmly on the side of being kind to people and not labeling or belittling anyone regarding their participation in the lifestyle. Having said that, however, I can also see the viewpoint of some couples since when we first started swinging there really were no singles (or at least so few that we never met any) actively participating in the lifestyle. A few years later we met a few singles who would, say, hire a hooker to gain access to parties and events or sometimes convince a friend to act as sort of a swinging "beard" if you will, again to gain entry to swinging events. This was all pre-internet so connecting was considerably more difficult than it is now. To say that the internet changed swinging (for better or worse) is a HUGE understatement. I was talking to a guy (formerly single but now in a couple) recently about his experiences as both a SM and a couple in the lifestyle. His attitude had actually changed dramatically. It reminded me of former smokers who now are militantly anti-smoking. His argument (now that he's no longer single) was to take the couples and the singles and put them on separate websites and what do you have? He said you have a swingers site and a hookup site. I told him that there are some couples who actually seek out singles over other couples but he wasn't easily dissuaded. One final point he made that I thought perhaps was a valid point...he said when he first started out as a SM in swinging he thought that all or most of the married guys who enjoyed seeing their wives getting fucked were basically cuckolds or at very least not real men. He said it took him many years and a lot of different experiences to lose that mindset. He also said that now that he's part of a couple who is frequently contacted by single guys he sees that attitude (because he recognizes it from when he had it) far more often than not. He stated that he would guess that the VAST majority of those single guys who don't "get it", the bad apples if you will, the ones who ruin it for the few good guys have that attitude and mindset. He said that's why there will probably always be somewhat of a schism between singles and couples. Whew, that was a long fucking post. Hope it made sense. No more herb before posting, Mr. Evil! LOL

Swinging with Vanillas - Any success stories? - We were never vanilla, we were born swingers ;-)

Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - [quote=EVILDOERS]Yep, swinging's as dead as a doornail. We're thinking of taking up pornographic cross- stitching to fill the void. [em]Emo_96[/em] [/quote] Speak for yourself. The Lifestyle is alive and well here in Central Florida.

asking your swinger friend if you can join them. - - [quote=EVILDOERS]"I am not in the lifestyle and don't think I ever really fully would be" "K USSIR your not a swinger but you wanna have sex with you friends wife with your friend there? HMMMMMMM I smell a swinger in the making" Naw, I smell a single guy who just wants to get laid. If you aren't really interested in swinging just leave it alone and get your jollies elsewhere. There are plenty of ways for you to get your rocks off in bars and clubs and on Craigslist. It's your VERY common SM attitude that makes it tough for the very few single guys who get it and really want to be part of the lifestyle. No wonder so many people constantly say that singles aren't really swingers. But don't worry. You aren't alone. We've met TONS of single dudes over the years who've admitted that they would NEVER allow their wife (if they ever got married) to fuck another man. Swinging is an attitude and a mindset. A guy who would let you fuck his wife is risking a lot and sharing with you the most important thing in his life. If you can't grasp that concept you should just stay home and jerk it to online porn.[/quote] Great points.. And if I may say, I am a single fella in this lifestyle, and yes if I were married or had a girlfriend, I would love to share with another man, woman, or couple. In fact when I go on dates, swinging is one of the conversations I make sure we have, if she is not interested in the lifestyle, then we enjoy the date and go our separate ways. I am open and honest upfront and not afraid to express my involvement in the lifestyle. If she is interested then we will talk more about it as the dating continues, if not, no hard feelings..

On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - yeah I think west wendover would be a good idea, as Utah laws I'm sure wouldnt allow it (if it was an official business).

Have you seen... - Xmas Poll - ...the new Star Wars movie? If so, what did you think? And PLEASE don't post any spoilers or if you do, at LEAST say "SPOILER ALERT" in big caps at the top of your post. TIA 1) Meh. It was okay. 2) If you post any spoilers I'll fuckin' KILL you, Evil. 3) Yes. It was formulaic and derivative. 4) GREATEST...MOVIE...EVER!!! 5) I'll wait for it on dvd. 6) Nope. Too busy fucking all these horny Utah swingers. 7) No, but that dinosaur movie was kinda cute. 8) Naw, but can't wait for Fifty Shades Darker. 9) Yes! The Force is STRONG in me! 10) Total fuckin' cash grab by Disney and JJ Abrams. 11) Fuckin' Star Wars nerds! Trump 2016! 12) Not one mention in the WHOLE movie of 6 pound, 8 ounce baby Jesus. [em]Emo_73[/em] 13) Star Trek RULES! [em]Emo_23[/em] 14) Yes, it was...[em]Emo_37[/em] 15) Wait, is that the one with Buster Keaton and Fatty Arbuckle? 16) I SO wanna fuck Rey...and let her use the Force on me! 17) Han shot first! [em]Emo_22[/em] 18) No, but I can't wait for "The Sound of Music- Return to Austria. This Time It's PERSONAL!", where the Von Trapp family, after extensive training in guerrilla warfare return as a small, highly lethal expeditionary force to take down The Third Reich. 19) Are you drunk or high, Evil? [em]Emo_86[/em] 20) Add your own answer here....

Swingers and black rings. - - Looks like Ms. Evil is going to have to go against one of her biggest rules. take one for the team, and fuck a ginger so I can have a shot at Meghan. I thought they looked too damned happy to be vanillas. Sure enough, he's wearing a black ring on his right hand and, as we all know, that's a SURE sign he's a swinger. The only thing more obvious would be a pineapple in his grocery cart! [url=https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/mysterious-black-ring-prince-harry-204200922.html]Famous person is wearing a black ring on his right hand so he and his wife must be swingers![/url]

Virtual "Cheap Thrill Seekers" - - [quote=LILMISSRIDINGHOOD]What I think EVILDOERS is trying to say Islander2 is, there is no place to store such a list other than on your own computer or in one of them rolly things the dinosaurs used to keep track of their appointments, or to recall those snooty Triceratops who would just never show up. I can only assume that Swingular prefers users of the site to not punish other users for committing the crime of no show. But there is hope. They say if you contact enough people and make enough dinner appointments, you might get someone to appear in person. That's what I'm shooting for, at least. [/quote] OMG, you read my mind! Yes, sadly there are flakes in every walk of life and the fun part is trying to decide who is and isn't a flake. Unfortunately, once swinging went digital, the cost to play went WAY down. I'm not talking about the monthly fee you pay to Swingular. I'm talking about the ease with which someone can hide behind their 'puter and pretend to be something they are not. Back in the day (grab your Rolodexes kiddies), to meet other swingers you usually had to buy a swinger magazine with ads in it, rent a P.O. box, take some naughty Polaroids and send off a bunch of snail mail. It was WAY too much work for someone who just gets their jollies punking people. Sure there were still flakes, but the amount of effort people had to put in just to CONNECT with other couples made flakes far less ubiquitous. I mean for all you know now, the people who didn't show up for drinks at Applebees wasn't a hot, sexy couple but, in reality, a 600-pound transvestite defrocked pedophile priest with a ferret fetish. You probably totally dodged a bullet when he didn't have the guts to show up! [em]Emo_84[/em]