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Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Men don't have to pay if u got the password
Question - do you talk about other swingers? - Hehehe...See Te! You've got a lot of people covering your back! ;)
Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what.
I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused..
One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on.
You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden..
Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement.
In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that...
Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... .
So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them.
Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination....
We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced...
I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..
Swinging and Children Don't Mix With Me, What about You? - Unforgettable experience - we would have never took our kids to a cpls house that we met at a swing club first and for most. if we didnt me cpls because of our kids then the world didnt stop.sounds like poor communiations....the cpl mite not have known the problem sence ole hubby went with her with out a fight. something tell us this was doomed from the start.but you got one thing rite unless you know the folks very very well a family get-to-gether with swingers is a bad idea but thats just our thoughts on this....
roger and vickie
ps i hope all the english majors forgive my country boy spell
On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - What cracks me up about the "moral majority" here is that most of them secretly are into all kinds of stuff. This is now the number one state for paid porn subscriptions !!!!!! That tells me that all those horny old men that make the laws here are the ones living in secret. It is so sad :( My husband and I have lived all over the US and love the on premise clubs. Would love to see one here in SLC. But like everyone has stated, you will have to really look into the laws and how to go about it the right way.
KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - Sorry but that was hardly a balanced report. We will be the first to admit that we have met the least judgemental people of our lives through our experience in the lifestyle. Things don't always click but that should be expected. To give this woman the soapbox and state that people were pushy and basically force you into something was bullshit. Especially after stating that she was the 5th grader that never got picked for the team. She had a bad marriage period. Trying this out with an unstable relationship makes about as much sense as buying a new house and thinking that will make things better. A house does not make a home.
swingers helper... - I know some of us need this every now and again... - OMG you find the funniest shit to post on here to keep me rolling. Thanks for always keeping me laughing.
BTW....I have something much better to get you "up" hun ;)
seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? - I am 52, and considered a senior or close to it, and i have had more pus----y than a lot of these kids who think they are all that. I have my memories of the 20year olds I have been with and they remember me too. though they are now 40. Age isnt that important.I dont feel insulted by the discussion at all.
Pineapple Stickers - pineapple sticker = swingers? - [quote=ITSFUNTRYINGNEW][quote=Utahldscouple][quote=DIRTYCPLUT]I read a recent post on whisper that a pineapple sticker on your car means you're a swinger.
Any truth to this?[/quote]The pineapple is one along with pink flamingos etc. Secretly have wanted to order a bunch and place the on cars in the church parking lot 😀![/quote]that would be funny as hell[/quote]We wonder if anyone would figure out what they meant and catch on?!?! Or how long before they noticed! This way our car would r look out of place with it on 😂!
Vegas Baby! - Clubs - Purrfect Parties is definitely a Swingers group. We have met so many people in Vegas and that are just passing through from other cities that are in the lifestyle. The get together at the Hard Rock is just to break the ice but you can end up leaving with your wildest fantasy. We live here in Vegas and that has been the best place to meet people. We are on Lifestyle Lounge since Swingular doesn't seem to be big in Vegas. We have also done the Green Door but I wasn't that impressed and there were a lot of single. creepy males. I don't mind single males but not lurky ones. :D
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