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We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - Queen,
It sounds like you've had lots of good. All those people vouching for you is a good sign. I hope I didn't make it sound like you were whining. I was just trying to cheer you up, by showing you the good side.
;-)
-D-
Is this one of your rules? What is it? is it fear? or something - Does everyone feel this way? - 242,
We (Tami and I) have never ran across anyone that said they didn't want to have sex and only wanted to make friends. We have ran across those that want to be friends (have trust established), first. The latter I can totally understand, as we are two people that require trust in people we play with. We also find attraction in the personality and minds of the individual. Have there been exceptions for us? Yes, however, we have found that "spur of the moment" play was unsatisfying and regrettable.
We try not to label people. We just avoid those that are into something we are not. Just as a couple not into anal sex would avoid sexual contact with those seeking anal. We avoid those that want to hook-up on first meetings without inhibition. Why? There are forceful individuals, there are deviants, there are bi-sexual males that think they can touch without permission, there are people who drug others, there are people that smoke pot and others that can't be around it due to their profession. The latter doesn't have to end a friendship as we happen to be in professions that don't allow exposure, we just had to perfect a little dance with our pot smoking friends.
Many people view this as a "lifestyle". We certainly view the "free thought and expression" as a "lifestyle" but the "sex with others", is a recreational thing that we can turn on and off like a switch. Sometimes we feel like playin with our swingers buddies and sometimes we just like talking, drink and having other types of fun with them. Swingers or "Libertines", as I like to refer to them, are mostly "free thinker" types so I like to interact with them on other levels as well. Though there are still those types that only swing for the sex and still have closed minds in regard to everything else. Those are the types I find strange. How you can be a conservative swinger is beyond me. However, I respect anyone's desire to fuck. So I do not judge. I just decide who fucks me and my wife. That's all. We all can't be compatible with everyone on all levels, all the time. It's impossible.
Whether it's fucking or writing in the forum, there is always gonna be someone that doesn't like you. Trust me, I know this first hand. So, like ole Rick Nelson once said... You can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself. That's a rule to fuckin live by.
-Don-
Scuba in Ventura California - Scuba Divers like it wet and deep. - I am a scuba diver spending my birthday diving Anacapa and Santa Rosa off California. I will be there the night of April 10th and leaving Sunday morning the 13th. While there ,I have 7 dives planned during the day but have my evenings free and would love to to make Birthday plans with some of the Ventura Harbor area Swingers.
Anyone have an idea of some good Birthday plans? Contact me.
Comic Con San Diego - - Anyone going to Comic-Con in San Diego?? We will be there from July 11-15th and would love to meet up with another couple to enjoy the nightlife with and have alittle naughty Fun while on Vacation!! ;) Or do you know of any swinger friendly clubs in San Diego. Where are all the San Diego Swingers HELP!! Message us if you're interested in joining us!! xoxoxo
Best Swingers club in Cincinnati area? - Swingers clubs - We have been to several clubs in the Dayton area as well as Cinci area. Sinday is by far the most friendly, clean and fun club we have visited. The owners are great people. They actually care about being the best club around. The crowds are always some of the hottest couples. The atmosphere is friendly, sexy, and fun. We don't even think about going to any of the others in the area.
Sorry we can't recommend any other club for you.
swingers resort - - We are told there is a swingers resort just outside of Palm Springs has anyone attended there and what age group attends there
Any Swingers out there? Golf swingers that is... - - St Augustine... Im spelling challenged with all these bandaids on my fingers...
Before you started swinging - - - Illustrator you and evil keep the forums so funny, thanks for the laughs.
To get on topic however, we had no idea the fun and enjoyment or type of people that did this before becoming participants. We have been lucky because most of the swingers we have met are just great people that really enjoy sex. How simple and easy can it get.
Extramarital Affairs and the Lifestyle - Where do you stand? - **Bottom line here is can we just stop all the finger pointing, labeling, and judging? Morals are a personal thing and eveyone is entitled to theirs and I\'m of the mind set...don\'t force yours down my throat and I won\'t force mind down yours.**
Wrong. No one is interested in passing judgement here. Simply stating the facts as they are.
Also, I think that some of us have returned to the cheating vs swingnig morality issue that we agreed earlier was NOT the intended direction this thread was going in. The issue IS a moral one, as someone pointed out. However it isnt whether or not CHEATING is the same as SWINGING.
Since the thread has been joined by so many other now (AND I THANK YOU GUYS FOR STEPPING UP AND SHARING!) several differing points of view have emerged.
Some \"vanilla\" or traditional people attempt to convince their mates to swing (MALE OR FEMALE) and for whatever eason that partner says NO. That person can not accept this answer for whatever reason, and decides it is worth risking everything they hold dear to swing.
We have explored that.
On the other hand, other \"vanilla\" people HAVE NEVER, AND WOULD NEVER EVEN ATTEMPT TO BROACH THE SUBJECT TO THEIR MATES. For fear of hearing NO, for fear of divorce...whatever...These same people, as one of our single gentleman pointed out...would look down upon us and label us sinners for being \"SWINGERS\" and all that they quite incorrectly feel that entails, and then in the same breath, go out and CHEAT on their mates. (I know one where she cheated on her husband with the pasteur of their church!)
Cheating is actually more accpetable than swinging to a LOT of \"vanilla\" people. To share their mate, agree on the format, and practice an open dialogue about it is unthinkable.
To cheat is not.
>>TO ADDRESS THE CHEATING SWINGER ISSUE AGAIN<<
This was never meant to single out you single guys out there, and I am not going to defend this post, or our stand on it. If you have read our profile, you should understand that we date single men and women almost exclusively! We just prefer to know the TRUTH about your situation, and beleive it or not, in this lifestyle...that is a tall order.
As someone else said, that is a choice each of you has to make. We would prefer to know the truth about your situation so that we can decide to say NO for fear of creating hurt feelings and contributing to the end of a relationship that we are not even a part of. My mind will not allow me to justify what my heart knows to be just plain wrong.
Luvbugs!
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The New Neighbors Are Swingers - - That was awesome. I've been missing the button up shirt, F#@K!
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