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Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - AKLIM, It's just as "rude" for you not to click "ignore single males". If you expect them all to read your profile, you take the time to read your settings thoroughly enough to see that you can block them LOL! raw statistics can be flawed. You show me stats that say today in LA, 1000 pitbulls attacked children and only 400 were committed by other various breeds. What does that tell you/me??? It says nothing of the circumstance. Were the animals mistreated and trained to attack??? How many pits are trained to fight???? Show me your stats. Stats can be skewed to fit the bias. Show me some. Maybe that is why we get hardly any single guys here. On AFF you cannot ignore them so we get them all. Here I forgot we blocked them a long time ago That is why I said that people use these statistics to JUSTIFY their opinion. I hate Pit Bulls. Wow. It is convenient for me that the CDC has that list. Now I use that list to tell you why I hate Pit Bulls. That list, in some terms, mitigates my prejudice. Now if the guy is using the statistics in an honest fashion to FORM, not justify but FORM an opinion, I might be more tempted to believe it. However, as you and I know, it is used to JUSTIFY their opinion

Calling all losers! - LS and club scene - ...........................................I am bored on a Sunday, so going to waste a bit of time. :) I have said this before and I will mention it again here. Often times people are looking for a black and white answer, a "this" or "that" or they tend to pigeonhole themselves into a place that feels comfortable to them. It is great that people can search for and find people of similar interests. The original question was why is the Utah scene so closely related to the club scene. To me, that isn't necessarily the way things are and so I am responding to shed a different insight into the question. How big is the club scene in Utah? I don't feel it is that big. We have the Moose Lounge on Fridays on a regular basis, we used to have Habits and then we have the parties that happen once a month or less frequently, such as the Sinful parties. Give or take a few other club locations and attendees. The average attendance at the Moose Lounge is around 80 people every Friday. My guess is that this number is well under 10% of the swinging population in the area. Just estimating. This only happens once a week. If we only consider the weekend as play time (Friday and Saturday), which is also an inaccuracy since people do meet weekdays and Sunday as well, that means that only 5% of the population of swingers is actually attending the swinger club scene on the weekends. Certainly not a majority by any means. Sinful is definitely a club scene. And maybe we should define "club". I will say that is an environment where there is a DJ or another form of music, often times on the loud side as people like to dance, has a dance area for such activities, and typically doesn't open until 9 or so at night. Sinful probably hosts on average 150 people on average (S&A, don't get mad if this number is off,lol) and these happen maybe once a month. Lets just round this high and say that is 20% of the swinger population. However, many that attend the Moose and other clubs are the same that attend Sinful. Similar crowd and often an overlap. So still nowhere near a majority, or even a large percent. In fact, quite the opposite. This scene is well in the minority. So I am submitting that this really isn't and accurate assessment of the situation and based on more of a sense or feeling than actual fact. What this tells us then is that most of the people in the lifestyle are not meeting at clubs and are not necessarily dancing and staying up until all hours of the night but are finding other avenues where they meet. What other options are out there. Venus Game night, Kandy K, Sensual Massage... These venues are not club scenes, are a relaxed place and quiet enough to talk without "using hand signals". There still might be music and a dance floor, but there are certainly quite areas to talk, socialize and sometimes even fuck, if that is your scene. I would estimate that as many or more people attend these type of events and for most of these it is an older crowd who is more apt to be in bed at an earlier hour, though that is also an assumption and assumptions are obviously a poor way to derive information or determine a truth. I would question if any of the people in this forum have attending these more mellow parties and what they didn't like about that. The loud music is gone, it is a great way to meet many nice, non-pushy people with similar interests and since the crowd is a bit more mature (probably not the Venus parties) then there would be people of similar interests there. Now it may be of benefit of the party hosts to start earlier, say 6 or 7, so the activities can finish up earlier and I'm sure the hosts would entertain that if it was a common complaint. Apart from these types of parties and club scenes the only other way to meet people in a group setting are house parties, although keep in mind the Sinful hosts to things outside of the club but the crowd will usually still be the same people who attend the Sinful Club parties so are probably younger and okay with staying up late and partying, so probably not for the majority of people responding on this forum looking for an early-to-bed group. Let's talk about house parties. The ones we host sometimes have upwards of 60 or 70 people. These are people we have met before, for the most part, and we don't invite random people to these. We have an area to dance, music, but also areas that are quiet. The party starts around 7 and goes until... whenever. 6 am at times, but many leave before that. These aren't orgy parties and people don't show up expecting that. We also do game nights where we have 3-5 couples over for games, drinks, no dancing, hot tub, etc. Also people we know. We have been to many house parties as well and it is usually people we have met before. We are very leery of parties where there is some expectation to show up and fuck. We avoid these. Not our scene. But these house parties are out there. The doors close at 9, naked by 10, fucking by 1015. You are expected to fuck someone. Definitely not for us but definitely an okay and acceptable thing for others. Judgment is such an incredibly hypocritical thing in the lifestyle and I am astounded by how many people judge others. It is one thing to not enjoy a certain thing and to stay away from it, but it demean it, negate the validity of it and try to reduce the people who do it is completely asinine. My point is there is a variety, a full spectrum to every aspect of the lifestyle. From people looking only to make friends to people only looking to fuck. There is no right and wrong or black and white. We have so many good friends now that we feel super fortunate and blessed every day. But how did we meet those friends. Here is the key. Through hard work. Through dinner dates, clubs, social events, house parties and networking. Remember, this is my opinion, so please, readers, don't get offended. If you limit yourself to one avenue your success will be limited and you will have very few options in finding that fun couple that you click with. Many of our friends that we have met at a club typically like to be in bed at 10, or sometimes like to stay up late. Some of the people we have met in the most casual environment turn out to be crazy, fun party animals. I'm not saying if you don't attend the clubs you won't find what you are looking for especially since we have already determined that the club scene is so small. What I am saying is that if you are expecting a one-stop shop, or a fix-all, your success will be super limited. Your goal, I believe, is to meet as many people as possible and then sort through those you like and don't like until you are satisfied with your results. If you label the "club scene" as negative in your own mind, you might also be inadvertently labeling other fun activities and only reinforcing the confirmation bias you already have. Don't limit yourself to one way of finding friends, especially since it sounds like it isn't working that well for you now. We have found friends in every imaginable situation. Single dates, group dates, vacations, house parties and yes, clubs. I know our way works simply by the amount of amazing people that surround us and we call friends, and yes, some friends with benefits. Taking the time to start a topic is a good idea. The people on here all seem to have a similar interest and maybe some of you will take advantage of that, meet, and if things align, you make new friends. Maybe there is a need for a group to form that meets around 6 and finishes around 10 where only wine is served and only soft music is playing in the background. If so, take the initiative and form such a group. Create your own success. Maybe there needs to be a better way to post smaller events where only a few couples are going camping, coffee drinking, or similar. And maybe it is on Swingular and just not being utilized correctly. I'm sure with enough feedback the site could be fitted with such a feature. So don't despair. There are many, many people with similar interests and needs. You just have to find them. Each scene and venue has positives and negatives. Try to focus on the negative and utilize the resources that they are and you just might find your holy grail of FWB or what else it is you are looking for. Good job on the topic and hopefully that perfect couple is just around the corner. Mr. SRO...................................................................................................

Cap d'Agde - Has anyone been there? - We were there last year in August for a week and are going back again this year. This is lengthy so I apologize in advance. If you want to know more just DM us privately. It is very unique. Nothing like it anywhere in the world. During holiday (July - September) there can be up to 70,000 people in the village at any time. It feels like half of them are naturalists the other half would be swingers. The village is fenced and you do need to pay for a day pass but it's not expensive. The point is that it's a closed community so everyone is friendly, nice and chill. The village was created years ago as a vacation destination for naturalists but has been taken over by swingers just because swingers spend more money so it has been turned into catering to that crowd. Flying into Montpelier airport is smart and cab rides to the village from the airport is only about 100 Euro from there. There are few hotels but its smarter to book an apartment on booking.com or better yet... a local french apartment booking site. You can also camp (huge camp site) but if your flying in then that is probably a bad idea. We have rented an apartment in heliopolis and this year we rented a house in the neighborhood. It's not cheap so plan on anywhere from 400 to 800 per night. Be prepared for very few American tourists. Mostly french, dutch, germans etc... Everyone is respectful and nice. Most are fine speaking english but that could turn on you quickly if you're not careful and respectful. We really had the feeling that this was a European vacation for Europeans. They aren't expecting the typical American tourist. There are several pool party clubs that are open during the day but are super crowded. These pools are usually indoor/outdoor in a club and its very common to see many people playing in the pool and on the side. It's definitely a huge party. It also costs about 50-100 Euro per couple per day pass. At night there are 4 good swinger clubs in the village. It's about 75 Euro to enter but you get a couple drink passes included. Upstairs is usually bright and good for lounging. Basements have large and complex array of playrooms. People aren't pushy and you have lots of options based on how many people you want to include in your situation. The village has at least 4 grocery stores, multiple bakeries and tons of restaurants, bars, lingerie shops etc. It's amazing to walk around naked during the day and lingerie with heels at night all around the village. You need to wear clothes when you go to bars/restaurants/clubs but can opt to be naked in the grocery store. It's trippy but very freeing. Beach has sections for families, nudists and the last section is for swingers. That section is crazy. Expect a load of single men, impromptu blowbangs/gangbangs and public sex during the day at the beach. People aren't pushy so you shouldn't be worried but it may be wise to not wander back into the dunes. Search for Cap d'Adge in PornHub if you are really curious. Those videos are 100% accurate. European swingers are a bit different. We found the people to be stunning. Beautiful, educated, smart and sexy. But flirting is different in Europe. It's common for someone to not flirt or even make eye contact but then suddenly ask you if you're interested in playing in the playroom. The village is so large that you have to insert yourself if you want to turn it up. We liked walking to the beach during the day, grabbing a salad at the market for lunch then dressing up (think Desire theme night or burning man) at night to go to dinner with a club afterwards. Legit - one of the best european vacations ever. We loved it.

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Mon chalet - Swingers motel - Yeah lots of couples playing and r There was like 8 people in the hot tub theres 2 so lots of room pool was ok temp too

What would you do? - what does a person do when their spouse no longer wishes to paticipate - There have been a lot of valid and reasonable points made. My fiancee and I are swingers, and we enjoy seeing each other with the same sex, as well as, the opposite sex. We have sat down and discussed it at great lengths. Like Tequila stated, it is recreational, it does not define our relationship. We like to meet as a couple, and we play as a couple, never separately. That is us, and how we swing. I agree that they must sit down and discuss it. Not sure about the counseling. I think they work it out between themselves. I wish them the best! Ron

Tranny's - - Well a transexual is not different then any sexual type. They like to dress up and may even want to be a women or man some just like certain things. Not all Transexuals are gay many are straight as an arrow. So treat every sex the same and you will see that they are beautiful. Some of the most evolved people are transexual they are very good at resolving issues and making them work for them. Transexuals do live off the grade from most as they have two lives. However, So do swingers so really its about what floats your boat!!! I have been called a gay hag here and there and knowing most of the gay world in Utah makes running into the funnest crowd the Transexuals who always keep you on your toes. You wont know until you try it. I seem to attract them fairly often so my point is I dont know but do try it!!!(= (= (=

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