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Another reason swingers live longer. - - I've already started my new company. I'm setting up kiosks in malls where I personally will be performing cancer prevention therapy to hot young chicks. My associate will take care of all the non hot women who need squeezing. "Get yer fresh squeezed bobbies here!"
Do you think they're swingers? - - More enjoyable listening to the dog barking then hearing that guy talk. Although based on that it is clear it wasn't hard to pull off the drunk pilot from id4 and wearing the shirt was fitting as he sounds just like him.
swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - now one more time to virgin isn't the definition of ironic and i quote no one:what women in the old days did to get the wrinkles out of your ic
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This lifestyle - What are we really? - MORDON: Huh??
Wow...no easy task to consolidate concepts as broad and inclusive as swinging and/or polyamory into neat little boxes. I'm still trying to follow how you grouped the two into polar opposites.
I'm not sure that the way you're defining either of those would be true for the majority of those in the swinging communities, and especially not Sirensextress or myself.
If I have the ability to to love more than one person...then yes, I suppose I am polyamorous, but NOT in the same way that a couple who is truly polyamorous might view it (I do love not just one but all my children/siblings and whatnot).
You've painted a rather bleak and harsh picture of us non-polyamorists, by boldly stating that swingers are, "friends with benefits....True swinging is having sex just for the sake of having sex. No talking ...no getting to know each other...not caring one iota about the other person. Basically have sex and if the other person dies on the way home ...who give gives a shit!"
That statement is well, to put it bluntly, naive and uninformed.
We've never engaged in sex without talking, or getting to know one another. How else would we know if there's any chemistry?
We care greatly for most of the people we've encountered through swinging, and would most CERTAINLY care if they died on the way home!
In short...we "give a shit"!
I think in it's broadest sense, the term "swinging" is large enough to cater to the appetites of a wide spectrum of people, from those that are inclined to polyamory, to those that prefer to fuck 'em and leave 'em, to those that are the swinging wannabe's, to those that are exclusive.
We are by no means polyamorous, but yes, we've run into couples that are in the truest sense of the word, poly. In fact, we've met couples that have wanted us to participate in the poly lifestyle. However, they are looking for something quite different that what we are looking for.
Neither my wife nor myself are looking to be "married" to another couple, or to become a "secondary" husband/wife to them. Yet, being the "non-polyamorists" that we are, and according to your definition, we should be unable able to maintain very close friendships with any other swingers.
Actually...our experiences have been quite the opposite.
Most of our closest friends have come out of The Lifestyle.
Do we love them? Yep.
Have/are we sexually intimate with them? Yep.
Are we romanticaly involved, exclusive and IN love with them? No.
Do we love them like family? Yep.
Are we polyamorous? No.
Does this just boil down semantics? Yes..probably. However I felt compelled to speak on behalf of those of us that actually do care about the people that we meet through the lifestyle. Cuz we DO give a shit and we're NOT the cold-hearted people we've been made out to be!
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St. Louis - - Welcome to St. Louis!!! Its always great to have more hot swingers around. You will find your way around soon :) .
At what point do you out yourselves to family and friends?? - - Most of our long-term friends know we've always had an "open relationship" (and the guys are all jealous LOL), and a couple of my wife's close girlfriends know about the nature of the "clubs" we go to on weekends sometimes. (We've even managed to play with one or two of those friends ;) )
As for family, we'd never tell either side. Hers would have a real hard time I think, my siblings are younger than me but not kids anymore and probably wouldn't care. I'd say both sides would be comfortable with a "don't ask, don't tell" philosophy.
Just a comment on Dr. Ziggy's post - we're the "live & let live type," and we're not at all ashamed of what we do. We wouldn't care if the whole world knew if it didn't affect our lives, but the reality would be very different, I'm sure.
A new swing friend once asked how I'd feel if our kids became swingers one day. My response was that, if they were making a responsible decision when they did so, that I'd hope they find as much enjoyment in it as we have. He said that was the first time anyone had ever given him that answer, and it was the one he was looking for.
Lifestyle friendly RV camping areas within a couple hundred mil - - I am putting a trip together fun swingers/ nudist on April 28-30 at baker Hotsprings
It is around Delta UT
Lots of places for RV's and tents
Have been doing it for about8 years
Everyone is welcome
Come early stay late
Why swingers are happier. - - Damn - I have seen some great screaming smiles - and I know it makes me happier :-D
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - Hello! Very interested in meeting people and establishing a trusted circle of friends. Professional, educated, and fun ;)
Wow ....check this out... - - I agree with HUNNY_BUNNY in some respects.
Depending on the comments made earlier, it would be hypocritical to allow some comments and not others.
BUT
This is a swingers site. Political narrow mindedness shouldn't be thrown around here.
I am a moderate and although I don't like everything George W says or does, I dislike the way the Democratic party has handled their grievences even more.
They keep giving the enemy political and moral victories left and right every time they say some poorly worded crap about the war.
This is all just pay back for the witch hunt the Republicans gave Clinton.
I think both sides need to grow up and quit acting like children and come to a common ground.
While we are still above ground and not 6 feet under.
So lets drop all the politics, and get back to what this site is about.
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