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Long Weekend - Just wondering what people have planned - [quote=SIMPLEPLEASURES]anyone ever go to Fantasy Swingers Club in vegas. also the the exchange ever get set up there. [/quote]
If you hear anything good or bad please let us know. We plan on attending the last week in July.
Know any Mormon swingers in SoCal? - Single girl in SoCal wants to know! - Where in SoCal. I work in the LA area 5 days a week.
Mr. Sexperimentors
Orlando freaks - Orlando swingers - Let’s get something going
Swingers Party - Doesnt mean who ever is there is open to everyone elsa - first and foremost, boundaries must always be respected and no one ever has the right to do things to another person without their permission.
however, i also acknowledge that at a party where the intention/perception that playing will or is occurring can create some areas of "unknown". it is important to find out what is ok and when it is ok. for some, that means french kissing within the first few minutes, others may not. i have seen different ways that people have tried to find out. the simplest and most direct is to ask. however, i have seen people do so by "testing the waters" - small hug, then a bigger one, then a peck, then a lingering kiss, then french kiss, etc. and at each step trying to "read" the body language of the other.
and i have seen that some people have become so "desensitized" to some of these things that their starting point is further on the scale than others. i dont have a problem with someone trying to open-mouth kiss my wife (even if they have only met for 2 minutes - which she has done with some guys and girls that she was immediately attracted to). i have a problem if they try, she tells them "no", and then they try again. but we go to these parties with the mindset that if there is a mutual interest of the involved parties, then sex is a likely outcome for the evening (unless the party is a "meet-n-greet"). and for us, open-mouth kisses are part of foreplay with our partners. we have even had some parties that we have just "made-out" with some without engaging in sex.
ultimately, it is important to find the common ground of what is acceptable for those involved and being respectful of that. it is also important to politely inform someone when they have crossed a boundary. it is unfair of us to expect that others implicitly know all of our boundaries.
Scuba, Nude Beaches, Swingers - Scuba, Nude Beaches, Swingers - we're headed to Jamaica to scuba and sunbath on the nude beach in Montego Bay. Can't wait.
CB & KB
New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - I am curious to know how many people in Utah would like to have a swingers club somewhere in the Salt Lake City area?
So, please respond to the following questions:
1. Would you attend a swingers club in Salt Lake?
2. If so, how often would you attend?
3. What types of things would you like to see at the club? I.e., play rooms, dance floor, activities, etc.
4. What types of things have you seen at other clubs that you liked/disliked?
5. What do you feel would be a fair entrance fee?
Your response to these questions would be greatly appreciated and if there is enough interest could result in Utah finally getting a place opened just for those of us in the Lifestyle.
Thanks to everyone in advance for their responses. While I am aware Utah is a unique environment and will have some challenges, it would be great to have a place where we can go and be open with who we are and find others with the same mentality.
Thanks all!
Caliana
KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - lol
Mormonmomtok - Tiktok mormon swingers - Ya I call bullshit on what I have seen.
What is up with Utah?! - Swingers in Utah and nowhere else? - There are some here in OHIO! Go Bucks!
Why do they run? - Why do most couples run when you suggest a real full swap? - I am certain that insecurity has no bearing on the decisions that we make in regard to the lifestyle. What you are suggesting simply isnt for us. We take so much from being in close proximity to each other during our encounters that it would render the experience...perhaps ackward or fruitless, for lack of a better term.
There is a reason that so many couples run from the possibility of what you call \"full swap\". Many years ago when we were first introduced to the lifestyle, \"full swap\" entailed having sexual intercourse with another couple. \"Soft swap\" meant oral play or touching only, no intercourse. Perhaps the deffinition has changed over the years...
I am certain that what you are describing is closer to what traditional polyamory is all about. In fact, there is a reason why the couples that you approach about this subject \"run like the wind\" as you call it. More times than not, it has proven to be destructive to the relationships in question. Best intentions or not, we are all human. Shit happens. Most seasoned swingers know this, and avoid this situation at all costs.
Most of the relationships that we have seen over the years that were as you describe ended in ruin. Most of the people that we have known to consider this method were (coincidentally) new swingers, who had not yet developed a sense of direction or an identity in the lifestyle. There are some mistakes that you can make in the lifestlye without jeopadizing your standing with your mate. There are some that you simply can not. What you are suggesting to other couples, while it may seem like something that would be fun and cool, has proven to be atleast problematic to many other people.
Just our .02 cents.
Best of luck to you both.
Luvbugs! (mR.)
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