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Why Hide Your Faces? - Don't you realize you're smarter than everyone else? - Because we are ugly! haha. just kidding... But, can you imagine being a middle school teacher and the students found out you were letting other men fuck your wife in gangbangs? Vanillas seem to think we are all sex crazed zealots who will have sex with anyone and engage in large orgies all the time. What if one of these kids told his parents that he saw your profile on a swingers site advertising gangbangs? More than likely, that parent would tell everyone that you are not the role model that should be teaching their children; and demand that you be fired. You would lose your career and reputation. There are many other reasons. But this is just one.

FAKES CERTIFIED AS REAL!?!?!?!? - HOW DO WE GET RID OF THE FAKES? - We also have been talking with her - or him, apparently. Maybe the rules need to be adjusted - whoever certified this freak should have their certification priviliges taken away. I also spoke with his ex-girlfriend - poor girl, she really has had a hard time with this. This guy gave out HER contact information - she was getting calls and texts from swingers, not knowing what was going on. Hopefully, the admin will address this accordingly! A&K

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E'one,

It appears that there are enough swingers that are also believers in a god. Perhaps you should form a more tolerant version to the faith and recruit members. That's pretty much how all the other branches got their start. The believed differently from the "mainstream". Those that believe god or the gods could give a fuck about your sex life should make your own version. Hell you can even write a supplemental to the Original christian bible. If there is such a thing. Anyway, I say do what makes you feel right. If you fuck and it doesn't feel wrong, then fuck. The only people who say it's a "sin" are humans. AG, That just proves that many religions families usually ignore one of the fundemental principles of "God's Intent" and rob individuals the right of free will until they are away from the grips of their families. People feel so dependant on the church because the church is all they know.
-Don-

SENDING EMAIL VIA CELL PHONE APP.. - - [quote=LILMISSRIDINGHOOD][quote=MATTANDLIZFORFUN][quote=LILMISSRIDINGHOOD][quote=MATTANDLIZFORFUN]Is it just us, or is half the site suddenly missing?[/quote] Half the site is missing. On the bright side. You only have half the stuff to focus on. :) [/quote] But we're swingers, more is almost always better[/quote] I get ya. Maybe we could begin a game of who can post the naughtiest picture in the forums until it comes back up. You first.[/quote]\ Oooh, fun game! I'll start. [img]https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-85c0c545b8f56e87204062d8f7e1c909?convert_to_webp=true[/img] [img]http://img.wennermedia.com/620-width/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-hug-105b10eb-16d2-4086-9564-83856240f11c.gif[/img]

What is up with Utah?! - Swingers in Utah and nowhere else? - There's a lot of great things and people to do here in Utah. Brigham Young was correct when he said "This is the place" to all his numerous wives and children on the swings.

This lifestyle - What are we really? - MORDON: Huh?? Wow...no easy task to consolidate concepts as broad and inclusive as swinging and/or polyamory into neat little boxes. I'm still trying to follow how you grouped the two into polar opposites. I'm not sure that the way you're defining either of those would be true for the majority of those in the swinging communities, and especially not Sirensextress or myself. If I have the ability to to love more than one person...then yes, I suppose I am polyamorous, but NOT in the same way that a couple who is truly polyamorous might view it (I do love not just one but all my children/siblings and whatnot). You've painted a rather bleak and harsh picture of us non-polyamorists, by boldly stating that swingers are, "friends with benefits....True swinging is having sex just for the sake of having sex. No talking ...no getting to know each other...not caring one iota about the other person. Basically have sex and if the other person dies on the way home ...who give gives a shit!" That statement is well, to put it bluntly, naive and uninformed. We've never engaged in sex without talking, or getting to know one another. How else would we know if there's any chemistry? We care greatly for most of the people we've encountered through swinging, and would most CERTAINLY care if they died on the way home! In short...we "give a shit"! I think in it's broadest sense, the term "swinging" is large enough to cater to the appetites of a wide spectrum of people, from those that are inclined to polyamory, to those that prefer to fuck 'em and leave 'em, to those that are the swinging wannabe's, to those that are exclusive. We are by no means polyamorous, but yes, we've run into couples that are in the truest sense of the word, poly. In fact, we've met couples that have wanted us to participate in the poly lifestyle. However, they are looking for something quite different that what we are looking for. Neither my wife nor myself are looking to be "married" to another couple, or to become a "secondary" husband/wife to them. Yet, being the "non-polyamorists" that we are, and according to your definition, we should be unable able to maintain very close friendships with any other swingers. Actually...our experiences have been quite the opposite. Most of our closest friends have come out of The Lifestyle. Do we love them? Yep. Have/are we sexually intimate with them? Yep. Are we romanticaly involved, exclusive and IN love with them? No. Do we love them like family? Yep. Are we polyamorous? No. Does this just boil down semantics? Yes..probably. However I felt compelled to speak on behalf of those of us that actually do care about the people that we meet through the lifestyle. Cuz we DO give a shit and we're NOT the cold-hearted people we've been made out to be! :)

Meeting a Monogamous Couple - How many monogamous swingers are there? - Seeking monogomous relationships.. NO.... Seeking friends that we see often.. SURE..

This one time at Swingers Camp - Discussion about N by N camp out - Always a great time!

Dating other Couples - Have you done it? - Been there, done that, have the t-shirt. We know plenty of people who've done it, and done it successfully (up to a point), ourselves included. We don't know of many, if any, where it has lasted for more than a few years and didn't end somewhat badly. It CAN be quite heady and has the potential to take swinging to the next level. Unfortunately, it is also exponentially more likely to crank up the drama factor to eleven (out of ten). Quite often each couple has their own "agenda" (for lack of a better term) that is often at odds with the other couple's agenda. We've seen it frequently cause weird jealousies not only between primary partners but also between non-primary partners and in a few extreme notable cases it has ended marriages. In our case, we were relatively long-term swingers at that point who, although never really super active in the scene, felt like we'd checked off most of the things on our swinging bucket list and were somewhat curious if there was more out there to explore in swingerdom...or if we were sort of done with the scene. The couple we started "dating" wasn't really the kind of couple we usually were attracted to and maybe that was part of the allure. They also had a very interesting (to say the least) dynamic in their marriage that really was at odds with that in our relationship. Ultimately they kept pushing boundaries (started throwing the "L" word around and much more), pushed for more and more separate activities and were insidious in slowly and subtly causing rifts, both large and small, as well as a LOT of drama. We actually didn't even realize how much drama and subterfuge had occurred until we were finally out of the situation entirely. We actually miss them a little, at times, and often wonder if there might have been a way to talk things out and come to a better understanding of how to continue on in a healthier way but they've actually gone on to do exactly the same thing to a number of other couples we know (it's a small world in Utah swinging and word gets around) and it seems to be their pattern. Tldr; It can work. It's quite rare when it works long term. It has the potential for disaster. While it's appealing in many ways we don't really recommend it. YMMV

Those damn single men! - Where do they fit in this lifestyle? - SexyPoker What is funny to me is this. While you feel single men should be ban from swingers sites and clubs, I'll bet you think its just fine for single women to be in the club, on this and any other swingers site, and sitting on your lap willing to fuck your brains out... No I'm not mad, I'm not upset, and I dont take any of these post personally, I expect a percentage of couples to post against single men. I see this as educational for anyone who reads it. The *whats in it for me* remark speaks VOLUMES!!!! Lets explore that question... What is in it for you as the hubby? IF approached correctly, a male friend to hit the topless clubs, a hunting/fishing buddy, if you ride, a biker to cruise with, maybe a friend who can and will fix your car, truck, bike, PC, or do the handy work around the house that you dont know how to do, or dont have time for. You get a wife who loves you deeply, and can see that you are willing to let her explore somethings that maybe she wouldnt ask you to do? She just may respect you more, and allow you to do things you've not been able to talk her into. You may be surprised at how much pleasure you get watching your wife enjoy herself with the other man, and once that other man is gone she make turn up the heat and give it to you better than before, hell most single men dont care if you *the hubby* step up and help in giving her pleasure, (who else would know her sweet spots better than YOU)... Your wife gets to find multi-orgasms as you and the other man DP her, and then one or both of you give her that pearl necklace she so loves... What do you get out of it? A HAPPY WIFE!!! Remember if SHE is HAPPY, YOU are Happy!!! There can be a lot of positive effects of the RIGHT single man playing in your sandbox.