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Where are all the MEN - looking for men that arent afraid of furthering the aspect of sex - I am very sorry to offend all the homophobics out there especially you fun4u. I myself did not mean to generalize anyone or any group. (actually I think the guy that made the comment \"all true swingers are bi\" was flirting with me) Everyone and their experiences are different and that diversity is what makes it all the more entertaining. I do understand that pressure for anything is not fair nor acceptable. I am not forcing anyone to conform to my ideals I will defend mine however. As a person who has expanded upon experience and I am just looking for people who are equipped and capable of looking outside the box.
A bad experience in any way will leave a bad taste in ones memory. Just Like a person who does not take the time for foreplay...how boring. Or does not take their time to please the partner they are with. 35 seconds and dressed again DOES become more challenging with multiple people. I myself do not wish to be fit into such a limited confine of existance I understand that many a person has had a bad experiences anal or otherwise. This, you could mostly blame on the one giving it. And that some are not interested in trying in the first place. I mean why would you try something like even having sex in the first place. Its vile and disgusting in nature. But we do it for pleasure, which had better be why you are here. But some of you have taken such offense to a topic that I assure you, has to do with pleasure. I have had more negative responses than I would have ever imagined from a group of people that are known for enjoying things that \"some\" people would take great offense to or even consider immoral.
And to those of you who like to fall back on a prostate exam. The doc isnt wanting you to \"GET OFF\" in his examination room. He would have to charge more. And I think it would void your insurance coverage. Just like the nice cold speculum that women just LOVE to have their gynocologist shove in their crotch and stretch them open, but they still let us put stuff up there. So there IS a difference between an exam out of necessity and an act done for pleasure.
Thank you for all your comments
Lee
What's in Southern Utah? - - no that just sucks for you my wife has the problem of turning strait people into swingers LOL
fantasy football league free trying to get only swingers in leag - free autodraft fantasy football league - Lol, I can't even find the league...I signed up, but can't find it...
Poly ideas - Ethical non-monogamy...I like that label. - A few other "Poly Ideas" we have had...a beach resort for swingers called "Poly Shore". Jeans with special condom holders made exclusively for the lifestyle called "Poly Pockets". A full time art school for swingers run by "Leave it to Beaver's" Tony Dow,called "Poly Wally Doodle all the Day" . The high end grocery store/basketball arena for lifestylers called "Poly Pavilions". But it turns out it was just a slightly nicer "Poly Vons" grocery store/basketball arena. And lastly a white supremisist lifestyle dating site called "Poly want a Cracker".
Question for the ladies - - Just asking them their size does not work. They are not truthful about it. It was not MY wife who laughed at the guy. She has been very patient with the guys so far, even though she hasn't gotten what she wanted. I hate to see her disappointed. We are exclusively looking for singlemen, we do not go to house parties or swingers clubs.
Letting them down softly???? - Give us advice? - No matter how "easy" you try to make it, some people, unfortunately, will never LET you make it easy. Let's face it, rejection sucks and some people just don't take it well...if at all! We've tried every imaginable way to let people down easy and trust me, there is no magic bullet that works for everyone. If there was we totally would have patented it, made a fortune selling "Swinging For Dummies" books and would be living on a tropical island surrounded only by hot sexy swingers that we find spectacularly attractive. [em]Emo_84[/em]
STD/STI Testing - - Actually it was closer to 1981 When HIV became aware to the medical community in the US if that is what you meant by that 1989 date. http://www.avert.org/aids-history-america.htm
HIV and HSV are the two nasties that should be of most concern for most swingers as they are incurable and HIV can be deadly. Both are costly in terms of lifelong medications but also in quality of life. They will be with you FOREVER!
HSV can pass by something as simple as a kiss and or oral.
Do clean test results mean something? YEs and No! Mathematically speaking the risk is related to a pyramid factorial equation. Meaning, for each new partner you have that is untested you are basically adding in the risk of not just that one person (Primary) but all the persons they have been with (secondary) and all the partners that those secondary people have been with etc etc.. HIV has been know to take up to 6 months of lag time from exposure to when it shows up on a test but 90 days is normally considered the standard waiting period. So any primary partner you play with who has been with someone in the past 90 days before they were tested still could have given HIV to you.
Granted HIV is rare. But HSV is not!
HSV cant take 2-3 weeks to show up on test results.
70-80% of the population will test pos for HSV as there are many folks who have the mouth cold sore HSV 1. To keep it simple sometimes in the testing HSV 1 really shows up as HSV2.. SO sometimes this means if you do test positive for HSV 2 it is really only HSV1. This is one reason Planned Parenthood will try to talk you out of this 160$ test
One more thing to add. Most people still think as long as they dont have an open HSV 2 genital herpes outbreak they are good to go. This has been found to not be true. There is a relatively new phenomenon recognized in the scientific community called Viral shedding.
http://herpes-coldsores.com/viral_shedding.htm
Another worry that is rare but possible and I know of a recent case where a person gave someone Oral herpes HSV1 to the genital area of another person.
There is also Chlamydia that everyone almost laughs off because a single dose of meds will cure it! The sad thing is if you got CHLAM you could have got HSV or HIV also as they run together. TO explain this if your had a partner that gave you Chlamydia they could have just as eaisly have given you some other things.
SO what is the safest thing to do. No play with anyone other than your main partner.
But if that is not what you wish then:
The safest thing would be for both Prospective couples to stay monogamous for 90 days and then get tested.
This is all true to the best of my studies but anyone please feel free to correct me.
Utah? - - Utah has Swingers
Florida has Swingers, beaches, The Keys, Mickey Mouse,
Professional Football, College Football, The best Militay Bases in the World,
NASA, Offshore Fishing and you can ride your motorcycle year round!!!
Come to think of it,,Yea, go to Utah,,We'll just keep this to ourselves
Why do husbands always answer first? - - [quote=HFUN]Sexy latin you are not perfect by anymeans .we have chatted with you and you did not mind it when i was chatting with you untill you could not get your way.we could not change the date that you set up and you got mad at us for not being able to change it. And i was totally nice not pushy at all very respectful even tho we felt uneasy about meeting somone your age and even said something but you are persistant. And what did you expect your a single woman on a swinger site .. Besides the definiton of swingers is a couple swapping partners . so its not a single dateing site . altho singles are welcome to it.. So why are you here in this lifestyle sexy latin ? I just had to put my two cents in .This is The male half not the wifes view.[/quote]
I don't think this answers her question or is helpful in any way. Doesn't seem like it's your place to attack or question the motive of any single for being on this site because each of us has our reason. Obviously you didn't mind when you were trying to set up a date with her. And we aren't aware of what happened in a closed messaging session between the two of you, but it seems that airing it in the open like this is an ugly way to settle it. May cause others to avoid you for such a visceral response from her seemingly harmless question. Again, I don't know what happened between the two of you, but this isn't the best place for you to show this angry side of you.
To SexyLatin, I'm contacted more often by men, of course, but it's often hard to know who is talking when a couple. I think we always assume it's the man when it could be the woman. From the comments above, it seems that there are women who do the contacting, also, but you may think it's the man.
Single male in this lifestyle.. - I have questions for couples and single females. - Heya Josh. These are all extremely well thought out responses. Take them to heart. I'd also like to add that quite a few couples opt to have the man from a friendly, familiar, and secure couple fill the role of the second man from time to time. Most of the people here have healthy, loving, and established lives with someone they trust deeply. The less in-roads for unstable elements, the better.
Don't take it personally. When I was active as part of a couple screening all the single men was a chore. There is an unfortunately well-deserved stigma tied to single men in this scene. Many figure that swingers are an easy lay and end up simply being a nuisance, or worse, a creep or downright menace. Disrespect and deception abound. That's not a personal knock as I don't know ya.
Be smart. Be respectful. Don't fret if you're not a hot commodity. It's the nature of the scene.
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