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We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - hmmm DRAMA....wish someone would list the definition of DRAMA. Some might say that this is drama....airing dirty laundry on a public forum....others may think quarraling in public...anyhow it sounds like there may have been some miss-communication between possibly the four of you. Unless i have miss-read the replys it appears that the other couple have not responded to this post. i certainly would hate to see the members of this site become "JUDGE & JURY" without knowing both sides....especially if they do not want to discuss it for one reason or another. Queen, hope your experiences are pleasurable...that is what we all want, and let it be known that we are certainly not tryin to "stir the pot" simply tryin to keep un open mind....I know that WE ALL claim to be drama free...but we will be the first to admit that we are not perfect in our dealing with each other or with others.....ALL THE TIME!! this can be sometimes a interesting lifestyle... HAPPY NYE!!! Mr. Diver

A&E New show about swingers... - neighbors with benefits.... - [quote=KIDSATPLAY]Why would any industry sponsor shows about the positive side of Swinging? I doubt there is any big money in promoting the swing lifestyle any more than there is profit to singing the praises of plural marriage. The vice industry might even suffer financially should swinging really catch on. This is a lifestyle that must eat the crumbs that fall from the gay lesbian table to acquire any "me to" acceptance. It seems like social and financial suicide for the deep pockets.[/quote] Why would they? They probably wouldn't. I strongly suspect it will show only really fit, conventionally sexy, couples on some kind of a bedroom merry-go-round. Along with, if they find it, some couple or couples whose relationship gets screwed up by swinging. And I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they created a situation like that for the show if they didn't just find one. But a REAL reality show about swinging, showing people from 18 through their 60s or 70s, with the biggest single group in their 40s, with bodies ranging from incredibly skinny through obese? People who are, except for having rejected society's "you only have sex with your significant other" commandment, are absolutely and completely normal people? No, THAT show they'd never sponsor. I expect that this show, if it has any effect at all on society's view of swinging, will have a negative one, reinforcing the idea that swingers will jump into bed with anyone, and leading to even more people "signing up" in the expectation of getting laid whenever they feel like it.

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - The news has never been about balance. They have to keep up with what public perception is. Or they create the public perception they want. Lets not talk about Utah having the highest teen pregnancy rate in the nation... or the fact that Utah and all of the wonderful enlightened mormons have a higher divorce rate than the rest of the nation... Lets talk about one lady. Obviously confused about more than her weight, with a bad marriage to start with. Who as a mormon, decided to "swing" to fix her marriage! Get this woman in a facility and FAST! ... We have enjoyed the lifestyle for a number of years and have an amazing marriage and are very much in love. Which according to her and this news piece is just not possible! God I love Utah sometimes...

Vegas: Swingers circle or couples oasis? - Which do I prefer - Okay, Last year we went to Vegas. We were across the street from the Hard Rock. OMG there were tons of people being brought by limo's to the club both nights. We got busy doing other things....like hanging out with Bill my Prono boyfriend and his sexy lady N. Haha. However, It looked amazing. I was the only one ready to go....just not by myself. This red head would of had a great time on her own. hehehe

Single male in this lifestyle.. - I have questions for couples and single females. - [quote]Hey, bucko. Polaroid cameras didn't grow on trees ya know. And our P.O. box was like 10 bucks a month! Then there was the HUGE cost of depilatory creams, gaudy gold jewelry and Nehru jackets. [/quote] Well, that was the ONLY advantage to being a single male in the lifestyle back then. NOBODY was going to ever answer any ad you put in the mag, so there wasn't any point in spending the big bucks on a Polaroid, and they didn't come out with cheaper ones that most people could afford until what, late '70s I think it was? (I wonder how many people on the site ever even saw one of those) Anyway,no need for a camera or a PO box for replies, there wouldn't ever be any replies. That "advantage" was offset big time by the fact that the only way you ever even knew about any gatherings, let alone got into them, was if someone knew you and asked you. Which hardly ever happened even if you knew a couple dozen swingers, like I did, because it WAS essentially wife swapping back then. Or if not full swapping, a sort of swapping with everyone in the same room So if you didn't have a lady with you, you had nothing to offer. I was incredibly lucky 'cause I was really good friends with a few couples, friends to the point that I once in a great while got to got with the mrs. to a party. If it weren't for that I doubt I'd have ever gotten into anything. I'm not certain, because it was something that never came up with me personally, but as far as I knew, back then single guys weren't even welcome if a couple brought them. It was all one guy and one girl, or forget about it. I don't really know what went on through the few mags, because, knowing it'd be a waste of time, I never bothered. And I never had to buy disco clothes, I grew up with Hippie rock and folk, and always hated disco as what destroyed rock and roll as well as folk. Hell, the only difference in my clothes now is that the jeans aren't flares or bells and the shirts aren't either flowered of psychedelic 'cause nobody makes them anymore. But I do still have Frye harness boots, same as in the '70s.

Question - do you talk about other swingers? - Never mention names! One thing we've found over the years is that people who swing, particularly those who belong to clubs, have too much to say about other people. I don't want to hear about it.. The people who are typically being trashed may be friends and we may have had different experiences with them. Best thing is simply the illustrated comments about what your version of swinging is. Descretion means or should mean what happens with others stays there and is not discussed. People may mesh differently with others and your experience or theirs is irrelevant. So MUM's the word. Ray

Go turn on Oprah - re:swingers - This show is a repeat. she had this on several months ago... I like that she allowed the people to express what swinging is all about.

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - I love it - when it works! Don't think its a given, sometimes there is a lot of work to getting it to happen, and even that is fun! DP with a strap on - super hot! xxx Luscious

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - If I ever hit a huge Lotto I would for sure get a BUGATTI VEYRON ~ now that is bad ass and yours for a coooooooool Ooooooooooneeeeeee Miiiiiiilllllllliiiiooooooon Dollar$$$$$$$$

MFM Threesome Etiquette - MFM Threesome Etiquette - In some circles the husband gets treated just like every other male in the group and in some they get special privileges. If it is something you worry about then discuss it first. A man may not be homophobic but that does not mean that he wants to suck your husband off either. So consider this, if both men ware condoms it removes a potential problem and the discussion is not necessary. Remember that for many swingers it is not a matter of pregnancy or a matter of safe play but what we simply like or dislike. Etiquette is about how we interact with others and that interaction is not always logical, especially when it comes to sex. It should be OK for anyone to politely say that something is out side their comfort zone without offending the others in a group setting. There are things that can be done in a MFM that simply can not be done as a couple. If you want to have the best sex then you need to speak up and guide your BF and Husband some and let them experiment some. If you do not let them know what you desire then you may not get it. If you decide that you like or you don