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ksl - did you watch?? - Ok this is the Mrs. now - up until a post on KSL I didn't care to say anyting but someone's post pissed me off - they made it seem as if all the men were making the choice and us little women just went along with everything. Sorry I get pissed when people try to tell me that women mean nothing in this world... Okay enough ranting I am posting the comment that bugged me and then mine and 1 others. This is on the KSL website about the story they ran on supposed swingers lol ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ReplyAn observation by Steve L. @ 10:10am - Tue May 9th, 2006 Looking at the comments, it seems that the men accept it and the women do not. Reply(No Subject) by Kimberlie R. @ 11:12am - Tue May 9th, 2006 As a woman participating in this lifestyle, I figured I would add my .02. I was the one who brought it up not him. We started talking about it and decided it was something we wanted to try, it was not a decision made over night - we talked about it for quite awhile. This is not something you hear about that often (depending on where you grow up. People keep quiet about it because of people like you, who sit here and have the nerve to condemn us for a choice we make as adults and as husband and wife. We are not hurting anyone, we don't involve our families or kids. We are not trying to recruit anyone into what we are doing, if someone joins because they know we do it it's their choice as ADULTS. Every person who sits here and says its "nasty", "perverted", or "that the people who do this are more apt to be predators" have no idea what you are talking about. How dare you condemn someone for a choice they make as ADULTS. Last time I checked we still lived in America not Iraq and had the freedom of choice. You people are just like all the other people in other centuries who condemn someone for something you don't understand. You go to a church who's founder was teaching plural marraiges at one point, look what happened to him, all because the rest of the world didn't believe or understand what he did. Get a life people, quit condemning people for something they have the right to choose to do. ReplyBy the way by Glen T. @ 11:07am - Tue May 9th, 2006 Most Women in this lifestyle or Bi, or bi curious and like the option of having the best of both worlds. At least we don't have to hind in our closets or behind closed doors on the internet surfing for porn

Tired of Politics and Religion! - - I humbly suggest that you folks get a grip! I believe this site is a national site? Do you hear the rest of the nation bitching when the forum turns into a Utah date-a-thon every Thursday through Saturday? Personally, it doesn't do a whole hell of a lot for me! Therefore, I should suggest you all knock it off? If all you care to converse about 24/7 is sex, maybe it would be a good idea to find additional outlets for your narrowly focused world! The popularity of some of the current threads would indicate to me that some swingers are able to discuss real life situations as well. Politics and religion are hot button topics and elicit strong emotions. Name-calling is likely to be a result. Solution - DON"T READ non-sex related threads. I don't happen to like name-calling, so I'm usually able to resist the temptation. But, the narrow-minded responses on this thread so far have me working on a few. :) Dale

Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - ...and the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply or those 45 and older. So...heading to Vegas for AVN weekend and four incredible nights of parties put on by PURRFECTLV. Anyone else leaving the great state of Utah for the real deal? Party like a Porn Star! Alexis Park - Parthenon Ballroom Massive 15,000 sq. foot ballroom transformed to an upscale sexy lounge complete with large dance floor, multiple stripper stages, go-go cages, ultra lounge furniture, state-of-the-art lighting and sound. Multiple Bars throughout.

Single Females or Couples open to single men - - [quote=Sm435]I really don’t think it was a bashing, just an opinion. We mostly play with singles. TBH we don’t give two fucks who we play with as long as there is attraction and we have fun. That said, I think the bashing would be greatly reduced with some site changes. We are in some that you need a valid post count or other ways to validate yourself, before being able to post new threads. Or maybe have forum spots for single’s posts. While we do play mostly with singles, we are definitely tired of trial members sending friend requests or seeing posts of single guys looking for single women. There are sites for that, as that’s not swinging (sorry kitten) it’s called hooking up, so use tinder. What people are gripping about is this is a swingers forum, you must be two people with trust in a relationship to actually swing, and they come here, a site they paid for, to see it crawling with singles posts. Some of the sexy pictures threads that have been going for years, still have comments by singles all over in them. I think they want to see the couples profiles here treated, or have more rights, than the singles. I’m not bashing anyone, in any way, it’s allowed so go for it. They just want the site rules different.[/quote] Very well said. Totally agree we also play with singles but trial members looking for single females gets old.

Gangbang - Finding men to gangbang wife - [quote=SLOWHAND311]Ah the monumental task of setting up a Gang bang.. If you want 4-8 you better have RSVPs from 8-15 since many may sign up but most won't show, unless you find a bachelor party, or hand out open invitations at a strip club, it's not an east situation to set up, even with days or weeks to organize it. Luckily one I set up that only one guy out of 7 showed up, had some good folks (four couples),here that filled in, and ended up a great night, and the woman got her gang bang, and the rest had lots of fun too. So I wish you success, it's almost as difficult as finding the perfect unicorn, but it can be done, just be patient and screen the men well, and invite several more than you need. [/quote] Funny reading posts like these I 100% agree with you, and at the same time, 100% disagree. About a year or so ago we thought about doing this and found a guy on another forum that set them up. During that year he has talked to my wife about doing one for her. So this Friday everything aligned that we could attend. He set it up for my wife and one other girl. he had 8-10 coming possibly 12. We said we would stop by, which we did, and the 8-12 equaled 1 and for him wife said "not in a million years" so we ended up having a fun mff with her and went home. BUT, from our personal experience we have done a total of 5 of these parties and they have not only been successful, we have always had more guys than we planned. The first was not planned, we were in Germany and the wife was drunk texting 4 potential playmates and gave them all the hotel address and time. Thinking of the normal Utah flake rate (as posted above by many) we expected 1 or maybe another arriving later. Well in Germany they show up! and when you say sorry she is playing, they don't care and just want to join or have others join. So we had a fun night of my wife taking 4 different cocks, having to shower twice from cumshots (she says getting a dual facial is an unforgettable feeling) and she has loved multiple guys since. Since that night we have done 4 other successful ones here in Utah, through this Forum. I could write a novel on the do's and don'ts but I won't. First write down exactly what you want, and when you advertise for it, use what you wrote down. I mean think about it, posting up "I want a bunch of guys to come gangbang my wife" is going to net you an inbox full of undesirables, cheaters, fake couple profiles with a "hall pass" - basically a bunch of dudes that came here to try to get laid. They failed vanilla, stopped here for a go with swingers, and next is stop is Fet life. Is this who you want taking turns with your wife? With all the disappointing stories above, I see a trend of likely bad advertising and poor planning. It's no knock on anyone, swinger parties (drinking and grabbing ass till 2:00 a.m.), play parties/orgies (where you answer the "how many other couples are coming" question 200 times the night of)are completely different than a gangbang. You make a simple post with no rules or structure then wade through an inbox FULL or crap and red flags. What you don't see is your post also is full of red flags for the people you actually want. These guys have done this before, and find performing for your wife and everyone watching exhilarating and are always looking for the next amazing rush. But they see your post, like your wife on the profile, but then they think - am I going to make all the preparations, drive there, show up on time to a room full of undesirables, wait for my turn to give said performance, and while trying to put on a show, having clothed people showing up late, drunk dudes talking because - wife said no way, or they can't get it up? Why would guys like this, the ones you want, show up to this? They likely have 5 hot wives they could play with on a Friday night. They want a true gangbang with a non talkative group of their peers, having rules, and trying to WIN the best performance of the night. The kind the other ladies in the room see and say "me next! Please!" What happens is they look over your post, look who is posting in it and kindly pass. Maybe sometimes they contact you and ask questions first, to find out if it is going to be worth it, and kindly pass as it seems like a numbers "quantity" game. Sorry, just my 0.02. Maybe part of the problem is not the guys, but the planner and the original post.

Hosting a swingers Party - - Two things which may cause problems.. Does OK have any laws which prohibit or limit or place restriction on the number of people who can be in a room or place for the purpose of having consensual sex? And as part of the first question, Is there a restriction on how many may have sex together... like sodomy laws..? Then if you collect money for any purpose it may be considered a business and a permit may be required to meet state law? Two clubs in NC in different locations have closed because of violation of state liquor laws. The parties have been being held in one place for 5 yrs and it was on private property and they charged nothing save for a "donation" to defray costs of setups and food that they supplied for their parties. The local constabulary determined that the Booze that was present (this is a BYOB situation and no liquor sold) in the home(which they called a business) without a license is in violation of state liquor law. They couldn't bust them for sex violations since NC cannot see behind closed doors. BTW both of these places conducted parties on Saturday nights regularly.. So please check regulatory bodies about sex laws and about liquor laws.. Tell them point blank that you want to have a lifestyle party in a public building in a suit or group of rooms that will be closed to the general public and that no alcohol will be sold or served but that people are encouraged to bring what they wish to drink and like any responsible person you will not allow people to drink and drive..You know that if people get intoxicated and have an accident the people who own the bar or who threw the party can be held responsible for contributing to that accident. You can have lifestyle parties without hard booze.... and have plenty of coffee abvailable for people who need or want it.. Be careful who you invite too..know who is at your party that they are not from the local constabulary.. Oh and NO DRUGS allow in the door.. Drugs on the premises can get people arrested who have nothing to do with drugs and you arrested as the people who rented or own the property. Just a few pit-falls that could cum up an bite you in the butt.

fantasy football league free trying to get only swingers in leag - free autodraft fantasy football league - Hello everyone. This is my other account and the one I used instead of the dolphinwolf one in the league. Just looked and we have 2 more teams available. looking forward to a fun fun season.

Weeding through the real/ fakes - I wish there was a "validation " on profiles.. - PolyCouple, I think you're pointing to a cultural gap that we've also been frustrated with for years. We fall more into the independently open category, which puts us closer to the poly-lite and kink communities than the swinger community. We've found that a lot of swingers have the men negotiate the process and that's a huge turn off for us so we end up considering it a red flag in terms of what we're looking for. No judgement, it just clearly wouldn't work with our dynamic. We're free to talk to and do whatever we want with whomever we want. And we do. It's just different. But, in general, only hearing from the man does also make it hard to figure out if you're talking to a real couple or if there's true enthusiastic consent involved on all sides. Especially with so much catfishing going on over on other apps. Maybe the site could have badges or tags that filter searches.

RECOGNIZING OTHER SWINGERS - Outside of clubs & parties. - I think one of the characters in Madagascar had an upside pineapple.

Wife's bday on 5th, suggestions? - What do you think or want to do - Not sure if this is something you would want to do, but this is what I did for my wife (ex-wife now) back in Calif. in the late 80's for our first year anniversary. I had it all planned out, keeping in mind that we had been swingers for a few years and had made a few friends...though we didn't get together with them as much as we/I wanted. Anyway, we lived about a 2 hour drive to Reno NV.. I had told my wife I wanted to take her to Reno for our 1 year anniversary and she was excited to go. Other stories of our playtimes in Reno will not be told at this time..lol. I had, behind her back talked to members of this group we were in...AFF group....and when all was said and done, 3 single guys and 2 couples(not counting us) ended up there. It was an incredible night to say the least...and obviously you would be substituting Wendover for Reno...lol.