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How close is too close - - If you have problems in your marriage, swinging is not going to fix them. I think the excitment of swinging will, perhaps, camoflage them for a short time. But in the long run if there are problems the level of trust that is required to swing -- just will not be there.
But I wonder how our statistics compare to the general public? Are swinging couples getting divorced at a higher or lower rate? Comparing our swinging friends with our vanilla friends, the swingers seem far more happy with and into their mate.
The scenarios and issues raised by this question, happen in and out of swinging.
Remember the joke -- "my wife ran off with my best friend, and boy I am going to miss him". That is a vanilla life joke.
We all need to take care to respect the intimate relationship between other swinging couples. We should all expect others to respect our relationship with our spouse. But in the end, if you trust each other enough to swing successfully, then I think the other issues of life will prove to be fairly easy to handle together.
Swingers at work... - - About a year ago my wife was visiting one of the fast food stores she owns. It is one in the next town that has a full time General Manager and a manager so she spends minimal time there.
She was walking thru and over heard two employee talking. Clearly it was about a local swing club but no one but a member would know.
She discretely took one employee to the side and asked if they were speaking (female first name) and (male first name)'s party. She was.
Ended up that several of the employee's were attending the same party we were going to. Apparently we had all been going but just never on the same nights.
Needless to say it was an interesting evening the time where my wife and I along with three of her employees were all at the same party. A little space was given but by the third or forth time we were all at a party at the same time it worked out ok.
The no play rule is VERY firm and it is NEVER mentioned at work. Thank goodness the store was eventually sold to new owners so the concern is much less.
Messages - why don't people want to message back - 1. All the sites are crawling with fake couple profiles that are pic collectors or guys trying to cheat.
2. People here have the idea of dabbling but are not serious about it.
3. People have their ideal encounter in their head and are only looking for that exact situation.
4. People are simply lazy. They wanna push a button (like the FR one) and let you do all the work.
5. People totally content with swinging are already in an established party or meet group and have people come to them now. They are tons of fun, experienced swingers that know how to balance normal life and swinging life.
So we always tell newbs there is a huge learning curve to this lifestyle. No, it’s not the sex part, we all already do that, it’s the ability to sort through the mess and find connections. Living where you do makes it even harder. Try some other sites to see if they fit better. AFF usually has a good listing in your area. Try posting up something when you have free time and see what comes your way. Don’t jump at every friend request. Our experience over 4 years is the blind ones with no message lead no where.
We use the sites for first contact, then k!k (you can live pic verify there) and chat to see if it’s a match. Remember it’s a frustrating road ahead. Even after getting to full chat and meeting time, we really only meet 5% of the people we talk to, and we are super flexible and drive many miles to meet and play. Just keep at it. We are to the point now we can spot most flakes, cheaters and collectors quickly and we block and move on. When you do finally meet just be open. Network, be friends, that can lead to parties or new friends. Start looking to just meet cool fucking people and learn from there.
KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - The article stated that there are alot of that nasty stuff taking place in Kaysville and Farmington. Now why have we not been invited to these sleezy events? We can't imagine our 3 parties a year was what the article was referring to.
Simples
Edited for Evel, looking at it called for a revision.
Amusing Story about bad planning - Notice nobody asked the swinger\'s opinions - Let\'s see, 13 and younger wandering the hotel on New Years Eve un escorted by parents. Where were the parents and why were they not doing a better job of keeping track of the kids? There are far scarier things in hotels late at night than swingers. Recently, right here in Orlando a pedifile was arrested after attacking a teen age girl.
Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - The next big event isn't till next month and the codes aren't given out till Friday afternoon usually
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - I have been ask to perticipate in both ,yes it has ben with close friends it was wonderfull ,hope you find the right cpland in time youn will good luck. J.P
Is anybody on this site for fucking real or just a bunch of tease - - [quote=Nitrohawk1]I have come down to the conclusion that single males here are not really wanted, 90% of the couples are looking for for unicorns which to me seems pretty biased. Not to mention the couples I have talked to flaked and others just treat me like crap. If I have sent anyone near me a friend request and you didn't want it just ignore it like I normally send in a message.[/quote]
Single males are very wanted here, in the right circles. But they should only EVER be reaching out when someone is posting up looking for that. Any other time will come off as pushy or entitled.
Yes, a very high percentage of swingers in Utah joined swingular with the unicorn in mind. Over time through meeting and parties they find some amazing couple friends and do move into swapping once in a while. That’s their niche, not sure how you view it as biased. Utah has always been very suppressed with bi-sexuality and the ladies have gotten to a point in their lives they want to explore that.
Your profile is NOT a single guy, it’s guy with a pass. For us personally that is the lowest on our list we would ever look for. It raises so many questions - does she really allow it? If so why? Is it so bad she would rather you go out and play? What is she doing while your out prowling? Not judging you, but this is what most think looking at the profile. You need to search out parties and meets single guys are allowed to hit and start meeting people in person. If your honest playing won’t be an issue.
There is a huge learning curve from deciding to swing and actually playing. Using swingular as a dating medium to meet other couples is the most frustrating thing I’ve ever done. Some tips, make sure you both have K!k and make sure they do too. Let the wives setup the meeting. Beware anyone sending friends requests blindly. Beware people sending friends requests that have no private picts. With the feet draggers that always have something planned, just move on. If they are honestly just busy they will message when they have time.
Vaccine - Do you take vaccine status into account when deciding who to play with. - [quote=Farkeltwins]Wow, we were under the impression that swingers were smart progressive people but this thread has educated us. It appears that some swingers are racists, knuckle draggers, selfish and just plain stupid. Please keep posting comments as it has been very helpful to us on what we want and don't want![/quote]
Your comment clearly shows your own level of “progressive” intelligence, and lack of it.
Still happy with your boy Biden running out of Afghanistan and leaving thousands of American civilians and Soldiers there as sitting duck targets?
Not sure he could have fucked it up any more !
Curious about no public photos? - What is the point and why? - We actually have our own internet porn site. Most of it is just your typical run of the mill German scat porn and ferret abuse porn (no animals were harmed during the filming of this movie), but we're too shy too post our pics on a swing site cause, well...swingers are disgusting perverted people who can't be trusted and like every third profile is totally fake and just a front for some people who want to meet you, drug you, and steal your kidneys and leave you in a bathtub full of ice. True story. [em]Emo_96[/em]
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