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KSL swing story - - The story was terribley produced. Little to no research. As I said in the thread leading up to KSL being at the Club 90 party, they decided what story they were going to write before they even put pen to paper, and they were not going to let the truth get in the way of their story.
I particularily liked the way it played women to be victims in the Lifestyle, especially when everyone knows it is women that really run the show and have the biggest say-so in who a couple plays with. Also, in surveys of swingers when asked "Who's idea was it to start swinging?" 34% of the time it was the wife that first brought it up. Sure, men still accounted for 54% of the survey (the rest couldn't remember who's idea it was originally), but it's not the men wanting sex with other women and drawing their poor defenseless wife into the lurid underground world of wife swapping to do it. Hell, anyone who's been around it for a while knows it's more "husband swapping" anyway. :p
I've been following the comments on KSL's website, and these people have no life. They wait to watch the news every night and then add their two cents to every subject. None of them have any idea what they are talking about. As Ozzie Guillen says about arm chair coaches and sportscasters "the farther you sit from the plate the smarter you think you are." LMAO But all the comments are along the same lines, the evil cheating husband luring his innocent, unsuspecting wife into the seedy underworld.
Then you get the fake profile they put up and within "six days, 70 married men, most from Utah, ask to start a fling." LMAO Damn, how many couples get emails every day from "free member" married men looking to cheat? We get at least one a day. The same old story over and over: Married Mormon family man who says "I love my wife but she doesn't like sex". These people need to look within themselves. We're not the problem, they are. Plus, most of us won't play with cheaters and after a time we've become very adept at sniffing them out. My wife gets at least one married Mormon man a day sending her an IM on her personal Yahoo! Messenger ID, and they find her in the Yahoo! directory (not Yahoo! Personals, the directory). They just go through looking for women online to contact. They don't know she is a swinger. Her Yahoo! profile is innocent as can be. If they are going to cheat they will find a way, with or without swingers.
Wow... I'd love to say this on KSL's site, but like fun4usxx said, it will just add fuel to the fire and you can't win. You can't fix stupid.
Mr. Caress4u
Married men, solo time - What do you think? - Swingers talk a lot about commitments and open relationships. However they are in a minority position when it comes to numbers. If you are married and want a divorce and your partner will not give you one, should you be forced to have her approval to swing? It is easy for us to say do this or do that. But some things are not easy to do. I spent 10 years being emotionally separated from my wife before my divorce. Due to certain circumstances, divorce was not even a consideration during that period of my life. But for me, sex with others was not a consideration either. However, I sure understand why some men would make it an option. We all have opinions and there are no easy answers and no right or wrong ones that are set in stone. There are only the ones that are right for you. It sounds to me that you have already made up your mind though.
Another reason swingers live longer. - - I've already started my new company. I'm setting up kiosks in malls where I personally will be performing cancer prevention therapy to hot young chicks. My associate will take care of all the non hot women who need squeezing. "Get yer fresh squeezed bobbies here!"
On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - [quote=2INWVC]I'm probably betraying my ignorance here.
But what about West Wendover? (The Nevada side) Or maybe Mesquite?
I think there should be some houses there that the owners or banks are desperate to sell. Heck, the cops in either place might welcome some extra tax revenue.[/quote]
Would definitely have to agree. West Wendover would be better and more successful. Less population to "spy" on the club. Only 1.5 from SLC. The "Out of State, Out of Mind" philosophy would apply well there. That is probably why the Vegas clubs do so well.
Build it in SLC or anywhere near SLC and you will have problems from the "moral majority." Another possibility may be a ranch somewhere in a remote area close to SLC like Grantsville. But with the Wendover solution, at least there are hotels available.
Mav
Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - We are very greateful to all the men and women of have fought to protect the rights we have. Thank GOD we do live in a country were we do have choices the choice to fight and to protect, the choice to serve this great land, and unfortunately the choice to shoot your mouth off DJQ. If you don't believe in the good ol USA then get the fuck out. There is a 3rd world country that would love you and after you slammed them they would come to your cave drag your ass out and just shoot you. So be proud ass wipe to live with those who have sacrificed themselves for you. You just keep talking to hear yourself try to think....
Fly-fishing Swingers - New Swingular Group - Being a bass fisherman, I like the idea of having a fishing partner like the one who was holding the 2 bass or the one that was standing in the water with the spinning outfit. Never had a fishing partner like that but then who would be fishing in the lake? Very short casts and to a very localized target.... then sinking the whole rod reel and all into the honey hole... Paul Elias ...style "kneeling and reeling" to get as deep as possible.... Love that bass fishing.
Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - As we all know that there are a lot of people out there that don't act there age. Most people have comfort levels of age groups that they are comfortable with, we for the most part don't try to judge people by there age but do try to limit ourselves to people older than our kids for obvious reasons and not as old as our parents for the same reasons.
In need of advice - sexual - OK there is shit missing here, your on this site asking for advice but not a swinger, your wife does not know about it and if she did would probably give you less than you get now, all you keep saying is me me me. Where is the I give her flowers, take her to dinner, tell her how sexy she looks, you have not said one positive thing about her on this thread, do you see a pattern here.
Sorry I'm not biting on this one, if you gave a shit about your marriage she would be here with you. There is no reason for you here looking for advice without her. In my eyes what you are doing is a form of cheating. Your talking about the most sacred part of a marriage with complete strangers who's morals you haven't begun to understand. Any shrink would tell you we don't know what the hell we are talking about.
My advice is you get your ass up off the pity pot and take a real hard look at what you have done to spark some passion into your relationship besides laying there expecting her to come around to your way of thinking, A good fuck nasty or intimate takes 2 who are willing to please each other swingers or not.
Show some real balls and bring your wife here so she can air your dirty laundry. I will bet my next fuck that her opinion is nothing like yours.
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=ISSUE152]The couple times I've done it, I've had such a better time the more I knew the two guys, and j had that comfort level, that being said, I'm moving back to Utah and hopefully getting back into the swing, of things if anyone will have me?[/quote] We would love to have you
This one time at Swingers Camp - Discussion about N by N camp out - Always a great time!
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