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Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - hmm. being that he is 32 and i am 23, we find ourselves looking at a pretty broad age range. but honestly, and sorry to say (dont want to be a bitch and all :) ), I usually prefer OLDER people. now, you must keep in mind, that most people are older than me :) but for the most part i usually prefer to surround myself with people at least in their thirties. that being said, it is not the actual age, but mental age, that is the true factor........

That little nudge many of us need - - We think honesty is the best way to be. If she found out about the meeting without her knowledge, your tryst into the lifestyle may be over. Plus, she might feel the pressure to play at some point anyway. Also, she will always wonder if the next meeting is arranged without her knowledge. Evildoers is correct in meeting with zero chance of playtime. Take their advice. She will feel more relaxed and could enjoy herself with the pressure off. We will take it a step further: Step 1: Set up a date with ZERO playtime opportunity and let the other couple know that. Do something fun (a hike, Topgolf, etc) and get to know them. At the conclusion of the date, let them know that if they do not receive a message from YOU within 24 hours, you don't feel you are a match. Step 2: If you send a message to meet again, let them know your intent and your boundaries. For example, (kissing ok), (fondling ok), (bi kissing ok), (same room, separate room, either room ok), (nudity ok or not). But, speak honestly with each other about this. It's not nice to lead people on after you have committed. At the conclusion of the date, let them know that if they do not receive a message from YOU within 24 hours, you are not ready to go further. Step 3: If you send a message to meet again, let them know what is acceptable. For example (full swap or soft swap), (same room, separate rooms or either ok), (kissing or no kissing), (bi play) etc. Again, you will have to be honest with yourselves if you can do this. By a third date, the other couple has invested a lot of time in you. So, be nice and don't lead them on. Enjoy the playtime. Save enough time for the afterglow sex with them relaxing, chatting, and laughing. By this point, you may have found a couple that you can see multiple times. Doing vanilla activities with them might be a bonus. They may even introduce you to their lifestyle friends too. The other option is attending a house party where play is not expected. You will be able to speak to several couple and perhaps, use the process above. Or you can play that night. When we entered the lifestyle, we never had that couple who could mentor us. After we considered ourselves as no longer newbies, we became the newbie "whisperers" to offer what we never had. However, we've gotten away from newbies since our circle is with experienced swingers now. But with covid, we would date newbies again.

Small Penises in the Lifestyle - - Being a guy who is 'blessed,' I can tell you a few things: 1.) I am [b]NOT[/b] user friendly...A little bit hard to handle for some. 2.) THere are some playgrounds I am not invited to, anal is [b]NEVER[/b] offered nor OK'd. 3.) Once people know about my size, I become a walking penis. 4.) Do NOT believe what people say about size, the ruler used by swingers is missing, on average, about 3-4 inches on them, so a 12 incher is really 8 or 9...

Hollywood Swingers? - - Howard Stern had talked about John Stamos and Rebecca hanging with him and his future wife Beth on occasion. He never tells the whole story, but eludes to the fact that they may have swapped partners. Sirius channel 100 for those who care.

Do you have be like Barbie to be wanted? - - what i will tell you is that on these sights lots of folks look at the pics and judge the book by the cover. I know for fact that alot of folks don't even bother reading the profiles some may read part. We have had more fun in local clubs ( swingers type clubs ) where you get a mix. Confidence is a big thing and it doesn't take much to shake it. Just remember this is a place to attempt to meet folks , try to find some local groups or clubs that get together and see if that works for you. If you do go to a club do not be a wall flower again nothing happens if you sit on the sidelines... I will agree with everyone else tho, most of us got into swinging as a couple and 99 % of the guys are gonna want to participate not just sit on the sidelines.

OUTSOURCING - - I thought this was very humorous. My wife and i have been swingers for a while and she is not currently playing the game. while joking around about she not being able to keep up with me she tells me "That is why I outsource you". After thinking about it i find the term really applies. and it works great as a secret word if non-playfriends may be around.

I see swinger people... - - Swingers are everywhere!!! Its a sexual revolution in the making!!! Not the first in history or the last. So get ready to see some love of many kinds and the minds being more open is not wrong but wiser. Change happens in the best way doing these eras in history. Be prepared to have a wonderful life!!!

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - The news has never been about balance. They have to keep up with what public perception is. Or they create the public perception they want. Lets not talk about Utah having the highest teen pregnancy rate in the nation... or the fact that Utah and all of the wonderful enlightened mormons have a higher divorce rate than the rest of the nation... Lets talk about one lady. Obviously confused about more than her weight, with a bad marriage to start with. Who as a mormon, decided to "swing" to fix her marriage! Get this woman in a facility and FAST! ... We have enjoyed the lifestyle for a number of years and have an amazing marriage and are very much in love. Which according to her and this news piece is just not possible! God I love Utah sometimes...

Creating an Amazing Swingers Profile - How to market yourself better - [quote=UTAHSJCOUPLE]Shit! We aren't verified. We are totally screwed! ~The Mrs.[/quote] I hereby certify the Mrs is real. I further certify that good spelling gives her a lady boner!

Moving to Utah - - [quote=PEGBUNDY]wow! such mis-information - look at the stats of property evals and such - for the love of Buddha... one can make an intelligent assessment based on fact.[/quote] She is pretty close to correct. I have lived elsewhere but I like Utah. It does have its quirks but so does everywhere else. Life is what you make of it. There are areas with problems, mostly socio-economic in nature. Poor areas have more crime as a rule. Thus many of the older areas have higher rates of crime and problems in school but not all. 55 to 60 percent of the people in Salt Lake and Davis counties are non-LDS. However since the LDS are evangelistic in nature they have a tendency to want you to come to church. Most have gotten past the idea that letting their children play with non member children is a problem. Once they know you are not interested in joining they tend to leave you alone if you wish. But there are lots of good LDS and Non LDS neighbors. Work with a realtor and find an area in your price range where there are other children close to yours in age. On the north of SLC, Bountiful through Layton will be more rural as will Harriman and daybreak areas to the South West. There are a lot of nice new homes in the south west corner of Salt Lake County. The east bench tends to be more money but not always. In Utah property taxes pay for schools. The Provo/Orem area does have more LDS folks by percentage but not necessarily fewer swingers.