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Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - CRAZYFOXTCU - you're turning me on. Am I immoral to feel that way? (I'm holding up my sarcasm card...)
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On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - I've been to a few really fun swingers clubs in other states and there needs to be one here!!
Randy of (Randy and Haylee)
MMF - - [quote=ONEFUNCOUPLE]Well It's great to see so many people agree with me!!!! Now I have to take baby steps with my other half so she can work up to that experience. I think she will like it and she thinks so too but she wants to get her feet wet "so to say" with just being with another girl and work up from there!!!
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This is how we started FMF...I am bi and we started with just me playing with the girl and he watched, then I was comfortable enough to let him join....now we are full on swappin swingers...hahaha...love FMF, MFM, MFMF, MMFMM, and ALL other combinations...hehehe...have fun and let her set the pace...you will be happy in the end letting her do it how she feels comfortable...she will reward you for your patience...I know I did Lucky B...hehehe...kisses...Naugh-Ty and Lucky B ;)
STD/STI Testing - - Actually it was closer to 1981 When HIV became aware to the medical community in the US if that is what you meant by that 1989 date. http://www.avert.org/aids-history-america.htm
HIV and HSV are the two nasties that should be of most concern for most swingers as they are incurable and HIV can be deadly. Both are costly in terms of lifelong medications but also in quality of life. They will be with you FOREVER!
HSV can pass by something as simple as a kiss and or oral.
Do clean test results mean something? YEs and No! Mathematically speaking the risk is related to a pyramid factorial equation. Meaning, for each new partner you have that is untested you are basically adding in the risk of not just that one person (Primary) but all the persons they have been with (secondary) and all the partners that those secondary people have been with etc etc.. HIV has been know to take up to 6 months of lag time from exposure to when it shows up on a test but 90 days is normally considered the standard waiting period. So any primary partner you play with who has been with someone in the past 90 days before they were tested still could have given HIV to you.
Granted HIV is rare. But HSV is not!
HSV cant take 2-3 weeks to show up on test results.
70-80% of the population will test pos for HSV as there are many folks who have the mouth cold sore HSV 1. To keep it simple sometimes in the testing HSV 1 really shows up as HSV2.. SO sometimes this means if you do test positive for HSV 2 it is really only HSV1. This is one reason Planned Parenthood will try to talk you out of this 160$ test
One more thing to add. Most people still think as long as they dont have an open HSV 2 genital herpes outbreak they are good to go. This has been found to not be true. There is a relatively new phenomenon recognized in the scientific community called Viral shedding.
http://herpes-coldsores.com/viral_shedding.htm
Another worry that is rare but possible and I know of a recent case where a person gave someone Oral herpes HSV1 to the genital area of another person.
There is also Chlamydia that everyone almost laughs off because a single dose of meds will cure it! The sad thing is if you got CHLAM you could have got HSV or HIV also as they run together. TO explain this if your had a partner that gave you Chlamydia they could have just as eaisly have given you some other things.
SO what is the safest thing to do. No play with anyone other than your main partner.
But if that is not what you wish then:
The safest thing would be for both Prospective couples to stay monogamous for 90 days and then get tested.
This is all true to the best of my studies but anyone please feel free to correct me.
Do your friends and family know about your lifestyle? - - Our 23 year old daughter figured it out, when our son kept telling her we were going to some convention here in town....she looked to see what conventions were in Vegas that week and put two and two together. We also have friends who arent swingers that know.
We dont mind telling people but we're selective about who we mention it openly to, just because some people just dont get it.
Game for Swingers - Has anyone heard of a new game for lifestyle couples called Titillation? - We have a game much like Monopoly. Its called pimps and hos its has several expansion card sets from swinger, truth or dare , drinking , charades , sick and twisted and striptease. Its a great icebreaker. Instead of property you buy hoes. upper class hoes cost more but pay more.
Pro's- Lots of choices of cards to add in the mix. From mild to wild
Cons- The complete set cost around $110.00
www.pimpsandhos.com
P.S. I need to get my freak on... Please Help-Jeremy
If you want to borrow my game or my wife let me know. Thanks and have a good evening
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - If I ever hit a huge Lotto I would for sure get a BUGATTI VEYRON ~ now that is bad ass and yours for a coooooooool Ooooooooooneeeeeee Miiiiiiilllllllliiiiooooooon Dollar$$$$$$$$
Now that you're one of them there fancy swingers... - - [quote=EVILDOERS]...are your sexual expectations/requirements much higher than they were before you decided to participate in this little hobby of ours? Is the simple variety in sexual partners alone enough to satisfy your inner freak or have you found yourself to be much less tolerant of mediocre sexual skills and now only want to play with people who are extremely adept in the sexual arts? Or do you just jerk off a lot? [em]Emo_12[/em] [/quote]I'd love to contribute something equally witty...but who could ever compete with Mr Evil? So..guess I'll just stick to the questions...
Higher expectations or requirements?. Nope. Came into this lifestyle just to have fun and that's all I still expect. Fun to me is just hanging around such free thinking girls...allowing me to share in their pleasures...whether it's with me...or not. Doesn't matter. I'm happy just to be in the game. Sexual skills are definately appreciated when shared with me!! But not required...nope. I honestly do enjoy just being around a girl who is sharing her own sexuality. It's like a peek into a forbidden world to me. How could I ever complain?
I know..I'm wierd. But sometimes...I DO just like to F*ck! And THOSE girls are especially appreciated! Does that help?
As for jerking off? Nope...not with Ms TiffnD around! I have a hard time keeping up with her as it is~!
Reject Affair Match - Cheaters are not swingers - It's simply nice to see that we haven't been the only ones that have scratched our heads and asked..."WTF?"!
~J~
Why Be In Utah? - - [quote=EVILDOERS]Actually I've always wondered the same thing about Florida. Substitute the crazy Mormons for the Bibile thumpers from Orlando north into the panhandle, add in the hurricanes, torrential rains, gaters, snakes and mosquitos...besides, I've heard the snow skiing is HORRIBLE there. But I'll bite.
1) No porn. You can buy dirty magazines but (unless you know where to go) hard core x-rate movies are technically illegal to sell. A non-issue in the internet age. If you're still buying dvd's at the local porn emporium you need to maybe update your computer or your media server or something.
2) No real beer. Again a myth. You can only buy 4% (by volume) beer in grocery stores but you can get full strength beer at state liquor stores, restaurants and places like brewery stores. Try getting ANYTHING to drink in some dry towns/counties in the Bible Belt.
3) True to some extent, although Salt Lake City itself is VERY eclectic and quite liberal politically. But at least our LDS lawmakers know basic female anatomy and have somewhat of a grasp of proven basic science. No kooky evangelicals freaking out every time someone mentions birth control or evolution.
4) Most people are afraid of Mormons? Really? I've heard they have horns and the missionaries CAN be a little annoying when you're fucking and they're ringing the doorbell but I don't think people are truly afraid. Besides, contrary to popular belief the swing scene here is alive, active and vibrant. I'd wager that per capita we have more, and more active, swingers than just about any place you can name. All that repressed Mormon sexuality eventually bubbles to the surface and until you've fucked a formerly repressed little Mormon girl who's discovering her sexuality you, my friend, haven't fucked! :-)
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Exactly what I was going to say but I would add in that it's more of an out door culture here. So many outdoor adventure activities to do here.
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