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what the f#%@ was he thinking? - swingers still deserve respect - WE've received emails and ims like that before... yes my wife is absolutely my best friend, and yes it pisses me off to see msgs like that. However i agree lifes too short to stay mad at them as well as the fact we'll see more action than he will. Wickedwanda is more forgiving about these folks ... we avoid the single guys online becasue most just don't know how to act. Now understand if we meet them in person we've met some very nice single men... that have contacted us online and we've said not interested. So I guess its possible, but as long as there are rude folks like that, not gonna make it easier for single dudes

Swingers of Color - - We are hispanic.

Preferences? - - So are we the only ones lookin to get some stinky hot strange? Or is everyone else just too ashamed to admit it? Swingers is such a shady term. It doesn't define everyone to a "T". To be a swinger does it mean we hard swap? soft swap? same room sex shit? Or what? Hell... maybe it just means I enjoy having someone else's wife watch me while I take a shit. (FUCK YOU FOR JUDGING ME!!!! LOL) The point is... that my wife and I are simply looking to explore our fantasies. These fantasies are very vivid and very clear. We never EVER turn anyone down as far as making friends and getting to know people. We love EVERYONE in the sense (as long as they are respectful). However when it comes to gettin down and throwin the bone? Well... to be honest... my wife and I have to both be attracted to the couple in question to begin with. That's not to say that couples who we weren't attracted to physically in the begining haven't broken through the shallow depths of our psyche, however for the most part we only will play with those we are attracted to. Some call it shallow, some call it having high standards. But one thing is for sure, we are in this for us, and no one else. I'm not looking for another wife and inversely she is not seeking another husband (at least... I don't think... WAIT A MINUTE!!!!)... So if we are not seeking the emotional connections, when it comes to sex that leaves what we are physically attracted to. Call it what you will, but I'm not lookin to fuck just anyone. My tubby ass (and YES I'M TUBBY) wants to bang beautiful women with my wife... FUCKIN SUE ME!!!! Don, don't sell yourself short... you are a sexy mother fucker and we both think so... her more than me hahahhahhaa. And BunnyPlus1... you just LOVE my hairy ass... and maybe my wife a little too.. but It's mostly me, just admit it already!!! -J

couples more [oft ] ask for couples or single females. why is th - - Since I have been on both sides of the fence I'll say this. Aside from male insecurity and those that are know that they are. However, 1. As it's been said earlier in this thread, most single guys are not swingers/lifestylers. They are crudely put , just looking for some ass!" When meeting a single guy and you're having a conversation about the lifestyle ask him if he'd have his girlfriend or wife par take in the activities. I have found that many on average would not. This leads me into my second point. 2. There is a certain lack of respect on the side of the single guy. I recently went to a swing club and you could always tell the difference between the single guys that were in the lifestyle for real and the ones that were just there for a good lay. That disturbs me greatly when I see it. Most single guys don't get what it's all about and they come off with this smug, arrogant, vibrato as if to say "Sure dude, I'll fuck your wife/girlfriend since you can't please her. You're just not enough man for here. Let me show you how it's done!" Oh give me a break! Now there are some guys out there that get it and if they had a significant other he'd be in the lifestyle with her. True some guys are just losers but I think that we can all agree that this lifestyle is not for everyone and finding that partner or special someone to enjoy it with you can be a little difficult. Just like it's difficult sometimes find people that are already in the lifestyle to meet for a fun evening. So, I'll end this with saying that couples that are leary of single guys have every right to be. However, I don't think you should lump them all together and just write them off. It's a case by case bases.;)

Messages - why don't people want to message back - 1. All the sites are crawling with fake couple profiles that are pic collectors or guys trying to cheat. 2. People here have the idea of dabbling but are not serious about it. 3. People have their ideal encounter in their head and are only looking for that exact situation. 4. People are simply lazy. They wanna push a button (like the FR one) and let you do all the work. 5. People totally content with swinging are already in an established party or meet group and have people come to them now. They are tons of fun, experienced swingers that know how to balance normal life and swinging life. So we always tell newbs there is a huge learning curve to this lifestyle. No, it’s not the sex part, we all already do that, it’s the ability to sort through the mess and find connections. Living where you do makes it even harder. Try some other sites to see if they fit better. AFF usually has a good listing in your area. Try posting up something when you have free time and see what comes your way. Don’t jump at every friend request. Our experience over 4 years is the blind ones with no message lead no where. We use the sites for first contact, then k!k (you can live pic verify there) and chat to see if it’s a match. Remember it’s a frustrating road ahead. Even after getting to full chat and meeting time, we really only meet 5% of the people we talk to, and we are super flexible and drive many miles to meet and play. Just keep at it. We are to the point now we can spot most flakes, cheaters and collectors quickly and we block and move on. When you do finally meet just be open. Network, be friends, that can lead to parties or new friends. Start looking to just meet cool fucking people and learn from there.

Is there a small group of couples - - [quote=DODGE1]We spent the night at Secret's Hideaway in Orlando last week, Now the miss's want to buy a hotel and turn it into a place like Secret's I told her Utah would never allow a business like that in the state of Utah. So we figure go with some thing that would work in Utah :) [/quote] LOL, we were driving though sardine canyon the other night and I said we should buy Sherwood hills and turn it in to a swingers resort.

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Bunny, It's stuck... help! -D-

courtesy - dates and communication - When we started swinging there was no internet....not like today where it takes a few seconds to find someone you want to fuck and shoot off an email or a friend request. We had to find a magazine with ads for swingers (at an adult book store), write a letter, probably include a Polaroid pic with the letter and mail it and wait for a reply...which didn't always come. So I guess we kind of were conditioned to not really worry about it too much especially once internet swinging happened and it didn't take so much work to reach out. Now it takes so little effort to contact potential playmates that many people often spam out large numbers of emails in a shotgun approach or do the same with friend requests. We've, sadly, gotten to the point in our swinging career where we DON'T respond to blind friend requests or emails that are obviously sent to multiple people (no mention specifically of us or our profile). We used to respond but found that at least half the time we then got no response in return so we assumed the senders got a BBD (bigger, better deal) and were no longer interested. We really don't get our panties in a wad over it. I kind of look at it like an unsolicited spam email from someone wanting to clean my carpets. I really don't feel a great need to respond even though it would be the POLITE thing to do. Although I am seriously considering writing back to that Nigerian prince who wants to give me a million bucks. [em]Emo_67[/em] That said, blowing someone off after making plans to meet is a douchecopter move and (barring a REALLY good excuse proffered in a timely manner) will quckly get someone on our permanent no fly list. Yup, we're assholes that way. [em]Emo_84[/em]

Playboy TV's new show SWING.... - So who all caught the first episode? - We had a ton of fun doing the show and it was very unscripted. They would of course plan the games etc, but what happened, happened. Nothing was forced as far as interaction. What you DONT see on the show is the hours of sitting around and answering the newbies questions and making them understand the mindset and how we live life. In fact, they actually did a good job at minimizing the drama and making a very comfortable situation for all. The funniest part of the show was actually the crew...they came in with a lot of pre-conceived notions about swingers and by the end of taping we had made some great friends and their minds had changed dramatically about the lifestyle and the people in it. In fact we kept joking about interviewing them and getting their feedback. Kudos to PBOYTV for showing our lifestyle in a very positive light.!

What really defines a TRUE swinger? - - [quote=T4REAL69]Now to your question if you want to know what defines a swinger then go to a dictionary and look up the definition. Don't have one allow me "Swinger- One who engages in uninhibitedly in sexual activity" see there you go....swinger defined! Webster II New College Dictionary 1995 Note the definition has nothing to do with sexual preference, marital status or any of the other shit that others want to throw in there to make it fit in their pretty little boxes. Perhaps you would have been best served if you had ask the question what does being a swinger mean to the individual? Had you asked then each person could give their perspective which is pretty much what you are going to get anyway. [/quote] On behalf of all SINGLE SWINGERS, thank you.