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KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - Thursday night at 10
Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - [quote=SEAKINGHER]I was raised to believe that morality and the law are the same thing. People, in LDS society anyway, seem to profess that being moral is obeying the law and that is what they teach their children in church. I have always assumed that other religions do the same thing. But what seems to be said here is that swingers feel that the law has little or nothing to do with morality and that we are perfectly willing to break the law for our own pleasure. Is that what we are saying here.[/quote]
Depends on what you are considering law. I think even in the LDS tradition there is an understand that God's law is higher than man's or governments law. A large part of the controversy of LDS polygamy comes because it was in disobedience to the law. Where church leaders believed that following their religious conviction was more important then what U.S. law said. But if you are taking some overarching moral law, like Kants categorical imperative then maybe. I think most swingers have the same ends in mind and no is being used as a means for an end. However that being said, I think most swingers seem to follow a more utilitarian guideline that pleasure is good and what promotes pleasure is good.
can we swing and still not be in sin ? - - Since I've been sucked into the swirling vortex of this thread, the only way I can feel like I haven't been robbed of the last 1/2 hr (give or take) of my life is to add my .02 Ok, I know I could just chalk it up to that which doesn't kill me only makes me stronger, but adding my input seems more satisfying.
I'll start off by saying that if you are doing this much research regarding religions and what they allow or don't allow regarding sexual activity it has to make me wonder if you're seriously considering converting to another religion just to save yourself the guilt of sin brought upon by whatever religion you happen to be at the moment. All religions have been formed and molded over the years by people. People who are not perfect, who have their own agendas. A sense of right and wrong doesn't come solely from religion. Many religions would like you to think that in an attempt to keep you in their camp and they'll be more than happy to tell you what is right and wrong for the rest of your life (in case you can't think for yourself).
But if you have to switch religions just so that you can sleep at night after a fun-filled evening of swinging, you have some other things to figure out. Or perhaps you should just start you're own religion, where you can make all the rules. In any case, I think its fairly safe to say that most religions believe quite strongly that those of us engaging in the swinging lifestyle are sinning by engaging in immoral activities, just cuz they don't use the actual word sin, doesn't mean anything. Its just more politically correct these days to say immoral. In any case though, they most certainly believe that we (swingers) will most definitely be going to a very special level of hell, a level reserved for... (sorry, narrowly avoided an obsure pop culture reference)
As for me, yes I believe there is a God. And one of the few things that I think is accurately stated repeatedly in the bible is to love thy neighbor and I'm more than happy to spread the love around in whatever way/shape is available to me.
-SG
Why do most cpls in the age range of 25-40 get so hung up on ag - - we love meeting new friends in the life style . but we dont want to play with everybody we meet . we go to alot of parties and hang out with a lot of different levels and ages of swingers . we dont rule one out more then the other for any reason . do we going looking for bigger people ???? or older people ???? no . but we really dont go looking for anyone . we enjoy our friends and try to make new ones .and we look and see each person for who they are and how they act . i am looking for friends to hang out with . and then i PICK MY PLAYMATES OUT OF THAT GROUP . the ones i click with and feel turned on i will play as much as i want to . do i rush faster to go up and say hi to a younger and in shape couple . hell yes . but i will also pull the oldest person in the club up on the dance floor and have a blast !!! i enjoy hanging out with older swingers . but alot of people that have been in the life style for along time are more in a rush and looking for fun . i love the new bies best . they are new and fresh and so creative and more into teashing and flirting WHICH IS MY BIGGEST TURN ON . but i also love to flirt and just make people happy . last party i asked an older woman to be my parnter in a contest . at a huge club with about 400 people . she was very shy cause all the other girls where DANCER LOOK ALIKES ... ( I DONT LIKE THE BARBIE LOOK ALIKE TYPE ) PERFECT ISNT MY CUP OF TEA . but i was teasing this older woman and i got to her lift her skirt and let me spank her ass . and she was spanking mine . and then she had to do a dance by herself . and i gave her a hug and spanked her ass and told her to go shake that hot ass and make them all scream . she did her best and she had a blast . she told me thanks so much for making her feel so alive and wild . and that made me so turned on and happy . and i love hanging out with people who are creative and fun . i look at peoples pics and see what their style is .i read their profiles and see how much they open up and what they have to say . yes i do look on the outside a bit to be with someone . but i also judge them by them for the real them . and what they like and dont like . and how they treat others and each other . iam so turned on by a few older couple that we know . one couple we did some things that we have never done before cause they wanted it like that we love to get wild , and take pics and make movies . i love body paints . i am turned on by people who are into what we are . young or old .black or white , married or single . alot of people talk about all the popel that dont like them cause they are older or not in perfect shape . but i also dont play with the hard bodies and try to look and act all perfect .that is a huge turn off to me . the ladies that all go to the club and they all look alike . blonde hair , tats int eh same place s , same cute matching outfits ,same size tits . and they think thats all their is about them . i cant stand that shit , people ask me why am i hanging out with the older ones and not chasing the pole dancer . i like to see people for who they are . and see the bad with the good and still like it . and want it . some people turn u on and some dont . if u are at a place where most people dont then u are hanging out with the wrong crowd . always be around fun people that u click with .
and sometimes things that are bothering people about themselves can show . or just be in your head that is the reason . there could be other reasons about u that someone isnt turned on by . we hang out with alot of people . but play with only a few good friends . and thats what we are looking for . and we wont play with anyone that is just look ing for a play mates .
so the best advise i can think of is ... to find a cool fun group that u can have a blast with and find what u want and need and dont worry about the ones that u dont click with for whatever reason . no biggie . have fun with the ones that do like u . thats what matters .
naguhty dreams
freaky kitty
seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? - I am 52, and considered a senior or close to it, and i have had more pus----y than a lot of these kids who think they are all that. I have my memories of the 20year olds I have been with and they remember me too. though they are now 40. Age isnt that important.I dont feel insulted by the discussion at all.
Young Swingers Week - Hedonism II - Anyone Going - We usually go in March. It is such a gun group. You will have a blast. Don't pack any clothes, only theme costumes.
Swingers Kickball Society - - My husband and I would be interested. It sounds like fun. Great idea! Please let us know.
Moab Utah - Swingers in Moab - Just got back...
couples gf? - has any couples thought of this or had/have a gf - [quote=FUCKADOODLEDOO][quote=BADBOY8P]They will always want what u and your hubby have mabey at first they will be happy but in time they will feel like the third wheel im speeking from experience it is lots of fun just expect to be disapointed !!!!! [/quote]
For Sure I agree BAD. We had one that over just a couple weeks wanted the hubby to take her as a second wife. When she figured out that wasn't gonna happen she called the police on me stating I beat her up and wanted me arrested. She figured with me out of the way she had a shot with the hubby.Thank goodness for witnesses. We weren't the first couple she tried this with. She is no longer on the site as far as I know. All I gotta say is be way way way careful. Did I mention BE CAREFUL? What helped with all this was the trust the hubby and I have for each other for sure. Sorry if this was long LOL.
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That is scary and sounds like fatal attraction. That must have shown you what "NOT" to want in a girlfriend. She could have taken it all from you with her snitch bitch ways. So not a women to trust.
I had a single female fall head over heels in love with my man. She knew we were swingers and thought it to be fun to try. So her swinging was more of trying to get my hubby from me. She got cut off right away I would not put up with that and glad you did the same as me. Booted her to the curb where she came from(=
I had one girl try that at one time. Try to get my man when I was not around. She would call him and try to see him when I was not home. Which is rare that we are not together.
Black Ring, Right Hand - How to tell if someone's a swinger - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]
A lot of people secretly wish they could self liberate sexually and socially enough to do some of the things "swingers" do. If they know enough about the Utah swing scene to know why we are wearing a black ring on our right hands then there is a pretty good chance they envy our liberation maybe just a little.
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I would not be surprised! :)
[quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]
I recently had a very LDS middle aged friend who knows we swing tell me when he grows up he wants to be me. We don't flaunt it before our vanilla friends and we are not trying to be spokes persons for swinging but we are really not ashamed of it.
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Out of curiosity, do you consider wearing black rings all the time flaunting it?
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