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can we swing and still not be in sin ? - - YES WE CAN ! there is ways males and females may swing and thay will not be in sin I WILL BE BACK TO EXPLAIN......ok, I am back and will define the issue as much as i can and realy want to see your knowledge and views, so first let me say some major history that all people in the world know and should know Especially all people liveing in The United States Of America our beloved country witch its finding fathers inscribed in every coin and dollar " IN GOD WE TRUST " , I will start with the Presidential Recognition of Ancient code of Ethics House Joint Resolution 104, public Law 102-14 That reads : President George Bush signed an historic resolution of both congressional Houses , Recognizing The Noachide Laws as the " bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization " He urged the U.S. to take lead in " Returning The world to the Ethical Values contained in the seven Noahide Laws " . so we the people know what is right and wrong ,we the swingers want to know what we may or may not , YES INDEED we most of us in swinging are not stupid and fear God's award and punshment and this is the point of this thread i am asking all who fallow a religion what does your religion permit in swinging and is not called SIN for example , such as all singles may swing and it is not a SIN all males can fuck up any female including your wifey provided your are not fucking a wifey married according to your religion or soft swap laws pent. laws the diff. laws that apply only to males or only females , there are so many diff. laws lets talk about it and sort it out , we all know the basic laws of Noachide and i found most swingers go by it , some had said to me 'with you or in this case or this couple we can go only soft swap' it was amazing to me to hear this from a swinger... let me put it this way" we swingers are Religius waste up on top of the belt... but very liberal waste or belt down" i would like to add to the people who claim "atheism" you people are Equivalent to cannibals if you are not afraid of god you can kill ,steal , rape, do anything a big animal does to a small one or as a big fish does to a small fish and that is scary you are willing to murder if you won't get caught !!! i would not play or even be with you behind closed doors......NOTE to readers all postings after i came back to define this issue starts after page 3 please reply to the "sex laws " of your religion only we are not here to debate or dispute any religion thanks;) ;)

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End of Summer Beach Party - Saturday, September 23 - i think we are all surprised at the idea of a nude beach in utah. Much less there being a bunch of naked swingers partying the night away. LOL -- Please please send us directions with date and time as well. Thanks

Fly-fishing Swingers - New Swingular Group - Char Bloom called me yesterday from Colorado and in our conversation she mentioned that she went to Martha's Vineyard last fall to fish for stripers. That's something I want to do sometime...saltwater striper fly fishing.

What sets you apart from other swingers - Lets see whos looking for what. - I am a SINGLE man, the dredded, the bashed, the most ignored, how can you be a swinger, the blocked, the most unwanted, on every swingers site. OMG!!! LMAO! What sets me apart? Where do I start? Could it be that I'm a head taller than 99% of everyone in the room, club, crowd? Could it be that I've been told I have nice kissable lips? How about my sense of humor? My initials are B. S. lol Is it because when actually invited to a private gathering, that I hear the men and women saying *damn he is big, and only 3/4 erect!* lol Yes, I've heard it, No I dont think so! Could it be my BIG hands with LONGGGGG fingers, and size 14 feet? Is it my long guns, my uncut abs, my 38 inch bird legs? Maybe it's my ability to go from goofball to Mr Handyman? Oh yes, I know, it's because I can 2step, 3step, c/w polka, jitterbug, whip, waltz, c/w cha cha, east and west coast swing, double two, dallas progressive, ft worth shuffle, freestyle to rock n roll, disco, hiphop or rap, or the fact that I can twist/rotate my hips/ass as good as any female stripper!? LMAO Maybe it's because I'm a biker? A Big Rig driver? A Cowboy? A professional business man? Wait! Maybe it's because I can read people, their moods, their wants and desires, their needs, their minds, simply by paying attention to the look on their face, their body language, the speed of their walk, their hands, how they're dressed, the sound of their voice, or their laugh... I dont know that I really am better than the next man, or that I even want to be! I am ME, I will always be ME, I wont change ME for YOU for any reason! I find people either like me, and enjoy being around me, or they dislike me, and do their best to avoid me. This site seems to be based in UT, another site I'm on seems based in TX and FL, still another seems based in the UK. I wish I had a job where I traveled, I would enjoy meeting most of you for a drink. Iron aka Scott P.S. I'm open to comments, and opinions...

swingers defined - - swingers defined a great clip on youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5v-6_6qat4

Picky Picky - No not your nose - [quote=ALLWENEEDISU]I'm picky, like probably a little bit unrealistically so. I figure I have the man of my dreams who is hung, smart, fun, charismatic and attractive. I shouldn't settle for less then total attraction. This should be true for all. I realize I'm a old hand at this, been in and out (ha) of the lifestyle since 2011, and I've basically done all the things, but if you're with your perfect partner then my understanding is swinging is an enhancement to your sex life. Never settle for less (old swinger advice for the newer swingers) just to have a new partner/experience/taking one for the team. What are your thoughts? [/quote] I think it depends on what you're looking to get out of swinging and what you value in a sexual experience. While I agree with some of your points I also know from experience that different partners/playmates can bring many different things to the table. I've been with women who were absolutely amazing kissers. I've met play partners who knew little sex "tricks" that had never occured to me or to my primary partner that we've been able to incorporate in our own play. I've been fortunate to have sex with women who brought an amazing level of enthusiasm and energy to our encounters. And, lastly, and perhaps even more important, I've met and played with women who I wasn't necessarily immediately attracted to but who I became VERY attracted to once I got to know them a little better and the sex was mind-blowing. I've ultimately learned not to judge a book by it's cover. That physical attraction isn't necessarily the ENTIRE package. And that what makes a person a great sex partner sometimes transcends the purely physical. YMMV Ultimately you are likely get out of swinging more or less what you expect to get out of swinging. If you are less than thrilled at how other men compare to the physical criteria you've listed about your significant other then you probably won't really enjoy swinging all that much. Just my two cents after being in swinging even longer than you. [em]Emo_12[/em]

age versus pics - - We have always had pics with our profiles, and we don't mind letting people see who we are. We've never had any problems yet. We figure if someone sees us on a swingers website, they must be there for the same reasons we are, or they wouldn't be looking in the first place. We have pictures from last week, and we have some from several years ago. I doubt if anyone could really tell the difference. We're one of those lucky couples who have looked the same for a long time. We feel that if our pics are an accurate view of what we really look like, it really doesn't matter how old they are. We'd never try to fool anyone about what we look like. That would be dishonest, and that's just not us. Gary & Paula

Too old ???? - - [quote=SUNRISE]The person(s) who outed you obviously has a profile themselves, otherwise they would not be able to see your profile. And if they can see any of your photos other than the first cover photo, then they have a paid membership. So by outing you, they have also outed themselves. Except they don't care that people know about them being Swingers and believe it or not we used to be friends. My husband has a high profile job and it was quite a blow to the face when we found out.

Favorite bars in utah - - [quote=EVILDOERS]Sweet! But be careful! [url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/las-vegas-doc-hosted-drug-fueled-swingers-sex-parties-cops-article-1.2151475]Swinger Doctor Arrested for hosting drug fueled sex parties[/url][/quote] If you're hosting a party and a couple "portray(s) ourselves that we didn