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Have you ever met anyone TRULY crazy in the lifestyle? - - OK so we're not overly qualified to answer, as we're quite new and haven't gotten to know anybody very well yet at all, but I do have some observations to add. Are we all nuts? NO. some are, some aren't. Many "normal" folks may think we're abnormal, crazy even. I mean, we don't exactly run around telling everybody we like to see our spouses pleasured by others, that isn't a very "Christian" or "normal" thing in society's eyes. It doesn't make us crazy. Adventurous? YES Thrillseekers? YES Different? YES Insane? NO Case in point: It's my observation that most swingers ride motorcycles. That puts them definitely in the first 2 categories. There are a ton more Bikers that are completely Vanilla and totally sane, some may say "Different" because riding isn't everybody's thing. (We're scared to death of riding, and probably never will know the serenity and enjoyment it brings most.) As far as meds go, remember this is the Zanax capitol of the world right here in the land of Zion. Not to mention the number of swinging active LDS members, other church-goers, retirees, well-paid professionals, business owners, and hard working blue collar folk. So the cross-section of society really is still there. Obviously by profiles you will find different strokes for different folks in the sexuality department, and on a Vanilla dating site, you get the same. We have members here who are octogenarians, and others who are barely old enough to get into clubs. Crazies? sure you bet, there has to be. Just as with everything else, a certain percentage of any group will be a beer or two short of a sixer. I think that's why many here are hesitant, if not reluctant to entertain the thought of a hook-up with somebody they know from the web, but haven't met in real life. We definitely fall in that category ourselves. How many booty calls really get answered? Alot of times your mailbox gets stuffed with candor, friend request, and maybe a few cell #'s, but when the brass tacks fall, they end up lying there. It's good to know that Evildoers hasn't ever feared for their lives, with their experiences over the years. The few couples we have met with one-on-one have seemed completely normal, honest, and respectful, regardless of whether or not they (or we) felt any attraction sexually. So I guess we're doing OK, and we're both excited to meet new people as often as we can. That said, I'm going to take my meds and get some shut-eye ;) ~Torque

Site Weirdness - A thousand less members online than usual? - There's typically 1600-2000 members online when I login at any given time; but there's less than 600 online today. The layout appears to have changed slightly as well, (Log Out button moved for example) though no functionality updates I can find. Has there been a swinger apocalypse? A Rapture in which more swingers were caught up than one would cynically imagine?

couples more [oft ] ask for couples or single females. why is th - - WHAT A CROCK!!!!!! We entertain single men...AND we do NOT fall into any one of your previously mentioned categories... What it boils down to is this...WHATEVER YOU ENJOY... To blame single males for STD's is ludacris AT BEST...Like HIV/AIDS is a gay male thing...What a crock of shit...If you were as educated as you just claimed, you would KNOW that is not true...The spread of STD's is from just as previously stated, UNPROTECTED SEX...Not bi males, not gay males, not swingers, not anything but UNPROTECTED SEX.... YES...there are asshole single men who think that swinging is about an easy piece of ass, but to claim they are all that way is simply an asshole trying to stereotype someone...Next thing you know...Black guys have big dicks, white guys can't jump, Jewish people are cheap, etc will be spewing from your keyboard...I cannot believe this utter nonsense.... As to entertaining single men...We do for one simple reason...WE WANT TO!!!!!! Think of this dumbass...How many people did you date before you found a woman stupid enough to put up with your shit for any length of time? I see...I am sure it took you a while... Now...Look at this...How can you ENSURE you will make a friend with anyone? LIMIT the number of people...IT is MUCH easier to connect with a single than a couple...Why, you may ask? Think back to dating or as simple as making a friend...Was it easier to make a friend who was part of a group? or perhaps it was easier when they were also alone and without a friend? Hmmmm.....NOW, add to it the fact that there are so many asshole men married to women who have learned to put up with it...Hmmmmmmm.... NOW you can see why we play with singles....

So what attracted you to swinging and at what point in your life - - I married the man who helped me escape my virginity....we were each others first time. We had college friends who were swingers and when I started to feel trapped and agitated about monogamy at age 21, it was natural for us to consider the lifestyle as the best of both worlds.

Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - We enjoy meeting new couples as well. The problem with getting out there more often, is our work schedules. We've gone as far as to send a picture of ourselves or cell number to try and meet new couples. Maybe we're doing it wrong, lol. But even a simple "No Thank You" is better than not getting a response at all.

Help us out.. Take this Survey - For Utah Swingers - [quote=PASSIONATEFUN]Wish you had an area for comments . . .this being Utah, know you can't replicate Scarlett Ranch in Denver or Sea Mountain in Palm Springs, but if you could do something like that on occasion, great. Of course, the days of summer outdoor parties are nearing an end.[/quote] Good point.. I'll add something for comments... Highly unlikely those places could be replicated here for legal reasons..... Also, the swinger community here in Utah is REALLY tiny compared to other states.. (We like to think it's big... but most other states have much larger, much more active communities than we do).

Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - I'm very proud of both my husband and my two oldest sons who proudly served their country in two different branches of the military. They would have gladly given their lives to protect the very freedoms that make this country what it is today. And we all still get a lump in our throats when we hear of a soldier lost. When we see military tributes and when we hear the national anthem. One of the most touching quotes I've heard is one my son brought home from basic training. ......"A true soldiers doesn't fight because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him"........

"Not interested" replies - - It is more common than one thinks... Not responding to a note/email/whatever one wants to call the message one sends from a site to the site... It\'s a bloody shame that people are so rude.. As for the kiss thing...I think people see a profile and want to show it to their SO so they earmark it with a kiss or add people to their friends list. It\'s the only tool one has to tag the couple and easily get back to that profile.. Sometimes people forget how to uses all the tools and then after a day or two they forget who you were and how to find you then another time they are looking and say Oh theres a nice couple lets send a kiss or add them to our friends list.....After a dozen sites similar I think that people may also be a bit shy too.. What do I day to Mary and Phill, he\'s a doctor and has a TV show and I thought he didn\'t like swingers.... I think I\'ll just call and save money on my car insurance ...I\'ll call Gieco... Just a thought... but people spend money to get on a site and can\'t write a note.. They may do fine face to face but to write a note ...... No way....My theory... What\'s yours? A subject for Lenord Nemoy\'s show \"Unsolved Mysteries\".... Which stretches from the inner mind to the outer extremedies.... you have entered the swinger zone.....

Other activities? - Do you only meet swingers for sex? - no,hehe kristylynn

Go turn on Oprah - re:swingers - it's on right now, the first half of program is about cheating wives, but the second half is about swingers, She said her producers said it was the hardest show they ever had to do in 19 years. wow